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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:11.0]
SZ[9]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[Shang-Rong Tsai or Shi-Jim Yen]
PW[Zen]
DT[2010-07-20]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[1800]
RU[Chinese]
RE[W+R]
BR[6d]
C[Zen9 [?\]: GTP Engine for Zen9 (white): Zen version 5.5]
CA[UTF-8];B[ee]BL[1794.904];W[eg]WL[1794.729];B[gf]BL[1772.927];W[fc]WL[1789.404];B[dc]BL[1751.572];W[fe]WL[1784.152];B[ff]BL[1732.032];W[ef]WL[1778.886]
;B[de]
C[RNDH [1d\]: test
typohh [6k\]: looks kinda bad for w already..]
BL[1722.192];W[ge]WL[1698.363];B[he]
C[ajahuang [6d\]: not really
goIngo [?\]: who is black?]
BL[1717.593];W[hd]
C[kiberen [7k\]: pro i think]
WL[1658.147];B[hf]
C[lorenzo [-\]: why not a 19x19 game?
typohh [6k\]: because computers are weak at 19x19]
BL[1710.242];W[gc]WL[1617.738];B[cg]
C[juj: please look at the schedule
typohh [6k\]: to my kyu eyes it looked bad for w because w needed \
to make life with g5 group in sente or lose the game... but thats \
just my 6kyu eyes.]
BL[1705.425];W[ch]
C[juj: I think black is Shang-Rong Tsai (6D)
glue [-\]: there will be 19x19 later, check the schedule in zen9 \
user info
kingbong [1d\]: strong
ajahuang [6d\]: Professor Tsai is 6d in Taiwan.]
WL[1577.665];B[dh]
C[lorenzo [-\]: glue: thanks
Altist [1d\]: already over?
juj: no wait, this is the 2nd game of Zen9 in the schedule.. \
so black is apparently  Shi-Jim Yen (6D)]
BL[1628.529];W[cf]
C[ajahuang [6d\]: Yen is also ama 6d in Taiwan.
dvhjvdfb: black = shi-jim yen 6D
YogSothoth [1d\]: far from over I'd say
kingbong [1d\]: eheuheu
juj: or I dunno, interpret yourself :p http://wcci2010.nutn.edu.tw/schedule.htm
kingbong [1d\]: aja you play 9*9?
Altist [1d\]: d3
Altist [1d\]: or b2?
FreeDoom [?\]: seems better
snipershot [6k\]: e2
kingbong [1d\]: ?]
WL[1537.532]
;B[bh]
C[ajahuang [6d\]: B2 is probably the only way
eric1010 [9k\]: hello  é__è
typohh [6k\]: why would d3 have failed?
bigfatcat [1d?\]: fierce combat
cnrc [-\]: b2 is better then d3]
BL[1538.638];W[bg]WL[1496.688];B[dg]
C[typohh [6k\]: d3 d4 f2?
ajahuang [6d\]: oh
ajahuang [6d\]: Black is very dangerous
koha [1d\]: yes, black surprised me]
BL[1480.016];W[df]
C[ajahuang [6d\]: E2 then H2
ajahuang [6d\]: Looks like white will win the semeai
FreeDoom [?\]: should f2 probably
RNDH [1d\]: Kill Kill Kill
eric1010 [9k\]: é___è
koha [1d\]: E2, H2 does not connect
typohh [6k\]: e2 g2 connects?
ajahuang [6d\]: e2 h2, not g2
RNDH [1d\]: 50-50
koha [1d\]: e2 f3 h2 b4 f2 b7 ?
Altist [1d\]: f2
FreeDoom [?\]: seems b should leave something behind
kiberen [7k\]: does zen9 said he has won ?
FreeDoom [?\]: d3 should be c1
RNDH [1d\]: what bot is thinking?
RNDH [1d\]: can he explain to us?
Elmarias [-\]: 0010110001110011  <--- what bot is thinking.
kingbong [1d\]: ;:P
power [3k\]: bot wants to kill all humans
SR123 [6k\]: is it two programs or program versus human?
kiberen [7k\]: to ZenAutor :  is "proclaim victory" is implemented \
?
kingbong [1d\]: g2 killing?
kiberen [7k\]: ZenAuthor* sorry
typohh [6k\]: I dont think bot can do exhaustive tree search this \
early
BALLZ [3k\]: A bot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, \
allow a human being to come to harm.
BALLZ [3k\]: A bot must obey any orders given to it by human beings, \
except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
BALLZ [3k\]: A bot must protect its own existence as long as such \
protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.]
WL[1456.061];B[bf]
C[power [3k\]: ballz, you know nothing about bots
Wisp [20k\]: u took that from a movie..
BALLZ [3k\]: May not kill humans!
BALLZ [3k\]: you mean books
YogSothoth [1d\]: you forgot the 0th law
Wisp [20k\]: and the bot went insane
typohh [6k\]: but but but.. b cannot win if g4 does, how is g4 \
group going to surive now?
typohh [6k\]: if g4 dies even]
BL[1139.591];W[cd]
C[ZenAuthor [-\]: 59% C6 C7 B5 C5 B6
SR123 [6k\]: who is playing black?]
WL[1415.168];B[ec]
C[power [3k\]: e7 nice
RNDH [1d\]: one think for sure, bot needs time to think about \
his life.
noemotions [1k\]: w looks already lose
YogSothoth [1d\]: why?
eric1010 [9k\]: hush your ugly u_u
noemotions [1k\]: hm no
eric1010 [9k\]: XD
weirdchess [2k\]: looks like w wins to me
ajahuang [6d\]: I think Black is losing
power [3k\]: w has e2 senter
weirdchess [2k\]: d7 will die
noemotions [1k\]: d7 no
noemotions [1k\]: g4 maybe]
BL[1079.435];W[ce]
C[ajahuang [6d\]: G2 and C8 white will has one
ThePok [20k?\]: zen won the rist game?
typohh [6k\]: b c7 now, how does the bot think about that?
YogSothoth [1d\]: b c7 and g4 probably dies
ajahuang [6d\]: C7 is losing, White E2 then G2 jump, easily win \
the semeai
typohh [6k\]: but wont e7 be short on liberties if b saves g4 \
group?
eric1010 [9k\]: C7 man
eric1010 [9k\]: u_u]
WL[1337.616];B[cc]
C[noemotions [1k\]: b not enough right?]
BL[966.097];W[bc]WL[1297.101]
;B[bb]
C[noemotions [1k\]: hm
YogSothoth [1d\]: e2 now
kingbong [1d\]: a6 firsty?]
BL[957.442];W[gh]
C[eric1010 [9k\]: O_O
noemotions [1k\]: same shape]
WL[1256.569];B[hh]
C[YogSothoth [1d\]: instead of 1-2-3, why not just play 3?
noemotions [1k\]: maybe semidori here
weirdchess [2k\]: no semedori, just semeai
weirdchess [2k\]: one must die
ajahuang [6d\]: now Zen can decide to kill which grup
NschoTschi [-\]: zen decied to kill own group]
BL[931.358];W[hi]
C[power [3k\]: what about killing both?
zapp [5d?\]: Valkyria clearly wants to play white here
banedon [-\]: valkyria?
zapp [5d?\]: My program
banedon [-\]: k
ajahuang [6d\]: hi zapp
NschoTschi [-\]: e2 aji dangerous
ajahuang [6d\]: will you go to Japan?
zapp [5d?\]: I want to particpate. But I cannot go personally.]
WL[1193.762];B[hb]
C[typohh [6k\]: b e2 instead of e7?
koha [1d\]: oh, I missed H8
FreeDoom [?\]: b seems playing desperate
ajahuang [6d\]: I see that Valkyria  enters 9x9]
BL[841.291];W[hg]
C[zapp [5d?\]: yes Valkyria chabged eval -10%
kingbong [1d\]: h3
kingbong [1d\]: nıce answer
kingbong [1d\]: ehehe
kiberen [7k\]: i can read that whith chines rule there are more \
menace of ko
kiberen [7k\]: is true
zapp [5d?\]: Yesterday I updated for 13x13 and 19x19 as well
cnrc [-\]: j6
darthvader [2d\]: j6 j7 h7
kiberen [7k\]: ?
cnrc [-\]: ya
cnrc [-\]: and then b lives
typohh [6k\]: b wins if g5 dies, right?
cnrc [-\]: right
YogSothoth [1d\]: b is just dead
cnrc [-\]: no
cnrc [-\]: j6
cnrc [-\]: works
YogSothoth [1d\]: j6 j7 and then?
Hellhuman [1d\]: who is b?
cnrc [-\]: cut
darthvader [2d\]: h7
cnrc [-\]: yep
cnrc [-\]: and that makes life
YogSothoth [1d\]: just capture, I don't see anything for b
cnrc [-\]: ill open in anew window
darthvader [2d\]: and then j4
cnrc [-\]: care to join anyone
Hellhuman [1d\]: is black a pro?
power [3k\]: probot
YogSothoth [1d\]: hmm, didn't think about j4
dresu [-\]: b is a strong ama]
WL[1154.02];B[hc]
C[noemotions [1k\]: w is really ok?]
BL[579.59];W[id]
C[adiida [3k\]: g6]
WL[1113.271];B[gd]
C[noemotions [1k\]: g6 bad
noemotions [1k\]: but g6 :)
adiida [3k\]: then f8
Hellhuman [1d\]: haha
Hellhuman [1d\]: dissed
power [3k\]: why g6 bad?
FreeDoom [?\]: b will soon resign
adiida [3k\]: and i think black captures ...?
kiberen [7k\]: can we know the pourcentage of evaluation final \
game calculate/possible ?]
BL[529.043];W[fd]
C[noemotions [1k\]: g6 looks like aji keshi
dresu [-\]: are you using google transtate?]
WL[1072.942]
;B[fb]
C[banedon [-\]: lol
AllNewSad [3d?\]: ko
zapp [5d?\]: Valkyria would resign now as black]
BL[510.356];W[gb]
C[hahaha [3d?\]: w dies first]
WL[1033.21];B[ga]
C[noemotions [1k\]: ko??
noemotions [1k\]: hm
noemotions [1k\]: or i missed
RNDH [1d\]: no ko
hahaha [3d?\]: missed
adiida [3k\]: i was wrong
hahaha [3d?\]: by lots
alanis [2k\]: w dead
dresu [-\]: impossible ko for b
adiida [3k\]: white captures ..
kiberen [7k\]: si quelqu'un veut traduire := connait ton le nombre \
de jeux finaux calculer par rapport au nombre de jux finaux possible \
?
freemind [1d\]: h9?
Toge [2k\]: e8 e9]
BL[501.423];W[eb]
C[typohh [6k\]: b won the game?
adiida [3k\]: e9?
hahaha [3d?\]: yea
gacua [1d\]: black dies]
WL[992.785];B[ea]
C[YogSothoth [1d\]: what was wrong with w j4 instead of g8?
noemotions [1k\]: so ko
hahaha [3d?\]: no
gacua [1d\]: oh ko
noemotions [1k\]: i was right
typohh [6k\]: why coudlnt b just f9 here?
banedon [-\]: c'est pas du francais non plus çà -.-
adiida [3k\]: that ko ...
hahaha [3d?\]: he didn t have to
cnrc [-\]: ko the other way would have been safer
Onibaka [4k\]: f9 h9 
noemotions [1k\]: but this looks bad :)
typohh [6k\]: oh, right, because then e6 d6 c8 
kiberen [7k\]: c'est le principe de montecarlo
RNDH [1d\]: why ko?]
BL[490.919];W[fa]
C[dresu [-\]: what else?
FreeDoom [?\]: how to win this ko for b?
koha [1d\]: how to avoid ko? 
hahaha [3d?\]: why ko?
errr: h9
adiida [3k\]: but that seems to be a one step to many .. ko
hahaha [3d?\]: what his level?
typohh [6k\]: if b had played f9 instead of e9, then e6 d6 c8 \
and b dead
koha [1d\]: h9 j9 j7 e6 atari?
hahaha [3d?\]: why now
freemind [1d\]: h9 seemed ok
FreeDoom [?\]: no threat
hahaha [3d?\]: yeah
hahaha [3d?\]: cnt win a ko on a 99 board
gacua [1d\]: black dies as I said :D
freemind [1d\]: i thougbt that avoided ko
typohh [6k\]: e2 is still a threat?
cnrc [-\]: well the way i had variated
cnrc [-\]: b won just fine
FreeDoom [?\]: there is no ko since there is no threat
YogSothoth [1d\]: e2 removes b libs
cnrc [-\]: by 1.5
FreeDoom [?\]: e2 no threat
FreeDoom [?\]: w capture all top 
errr: mm h9 d9
gplayer [11k\]: is g3 a threat ?
bbetkxsgf [1k\]: black lost
FreeDoom [?\]: b only threat is resign
power [3k\]: poor b
shodansoon [-\]: the robots have taken over. humanity has now \
collapsed
DanielRT [6k\]: what is the level of black?
DanielRT [6k\]: 6d?
power [3k\]: humans are weak
cnrc [-\]: black is a 9p
DanielRT [6k\]: 9 pro dan?
freemind [1d\]: wowz
cnrc [-\]: right
DanielRT [6k\]: noway
cnrc [-\]: yes
freemind [1d\]: yes way
cnrc [-\]: i am suprised as you are x.x
noemotions [1k\]: b 9p?
DanielRT [6k\]: can't be
noemotions [1k\]: ok
cnrc [-\]: he messed up taht variation
Iciac [5k\]: Black's a 6d amateur from Thailand apparently
Wisp [20k\]: isnt he 6 d?
noemotions [1k\]: w+ time
cnrc [-\]: iciac barcelona is a 9p o.o
Iciac [5k\]: o.0
ajahuang [6d\]: Black is my friend, don't say that. :)
ajahuang [6d\]: he is just trying to reverse
lorenzo [-\]: so, can we say Zen9 is 7d on 9x9?
freemind [1d\]: or stronger
cnrc [-\]: zen9 is 6d on 9x9
noemotions [1k\]: =)
eric1010 [9k\]: who
eric1010 [9k\]: ^^
DanielRT [6k\]: bot jsut cannot win pro dan
ajahuang [6d\]: nice playing
power [3k\]: nice
cnrc [-\]: um can we review this from h7
YogSothoth [1d\]: bot just won pro 9p
cnrc [-\]: instead of h7 do j6
cnrc [-\]: plz
dvhjvdfb: Congratulations to Zen9, and also to the human for \
the nice game
cnrc [-\]: or atleast gimme control =....=
cnrc [-\]: if you had j6 white died right?
hahaha [3d?\]: bot won
DanielRT [6k\]: so zen9 won 9p I still can't believe it
cnrc [-\]: it would end in a ko that you would win loosing d2 \
stones but winning by 2.5 taking b7 stone
cnrc [-\]: or 1.5 srry
adiida [3k\]: what about g8 instead of g6?
adiida [3k\]: after h7 j6
hahaha [3d?\]: resigned?
DanielTom [5d\]: bots crush pros
adiida [3k\]: g4 would the die first,right?]
WL[952.256])
