(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]HA[4]KM[0.50]TM[2700]
PW[ZensGuest]PB[Zen19S]DT[2012-06-13]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19S [-\]: GTP Engine for Zen19S (black): Zen version 9.7d12
]RE[B+6.50]
;B[dp]BL[2699.407]
;B[pd]BL[2699.122]
;B[dd]BL[2698.838]
;B[pp]BL[2698.581]
;W[nq]WL[2697.7]
;B[qn]BL[2680.684]
;W[nc]WL[2693.753]
;B[qf]BL[2667.58]
;W[fq]WL[2690.251]
;B[dn]BL[2652.559]C[zeekmund [2k\]: oh
]
;W[cf]WL[2687.14]C[zeekmund [2k\]: w pro?
]
;B[cj]BL[2639.622]
;W[fc]WL[2684.115]
;B[fd]BL[2626.549]
;W[gd]WL[2680.884]C[gghideki [2k?\]: yes, Chun-Hsun Chou 9p
]
;B[fe]BL[2613.28]C[zeekmund [2k\]: wow
ajahuang [6d\]: zen gogo!
gghideki [2k?\]: 周俊勲
]
;W[cc]WL[2665.162]
;B[ec]BL[2599.957]
;W[gc]WL[2662.909]
;B[cd]BL[2586.534]
;W[bd]WL[2660.442]
;B[be]BL[2572.657]
;W[bc]WL[2657.716]
;B[ce]BL[2559.09]
;W[eb]WL[2656.243]
;B[dc]BL[2544.873]
;W[db]WL[2654.659]
;B[fh]BL[2530.627]
;W[jp]WL[2650.335]C[sfgss [3d\]: cool
sfgss [3d\]: 4 handi very tough for zen
ajahuang [6d\]: indeed
]
;B[go]BL[2512.741]
;W[di]WL[2647.05]C[ajahuang [6d\]: white plays so fast
]
;B[ci]BL[2496.523]
;W[dg]WL[2644.04]C[zeekmund [2k\]: they know about ko weakness?
]
;B[ge]BL[2479.269]
;W[bf]WL[2636.784]
;B[af]BL[2464.025]
;W[ag]WL[2635.77]C[gghideki [2k?\]: I guess so
]
;B[ae]BL[2449.031]
;W[ch]WL[2634.741]
;B[eh]BL[2433.845]
;W[dh]WL[2632.937]
;B[fj]BL[2418.411]
;W[bi]WL[2627.827]
;B[bg]BL[2402.502]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: I just hope that playing so fast won't come back to bite him, however being 9p I am sure it will be fine.
sfgss [3d\]: w one sente eye already
]
;W[bh]WL[2598.794]
;B[md]BL[2386.108]
;W[nd]WL[2595.603]
;B[ne]BL[2369.896]
;W[me]WL[2593.839]C[sfgss [3d\]: why b12?
]
;B[nf]BL[2348.619]
;W[ld]WL[2591.732]C[ajahuang [6d\]: w wants C9
]
;B[mf]BL[2331.898]
;W[le]WL[2588.963]
;B[jf]BL[2313.027]
;W[ck]WL[2585.863]C[sfgss [3d\]: but w can c9 without b12?
]
;B[dj]BL[2296.016]C[sfgss [3d\]: anyway, easy life for w here
]
;W[bj]WL[2583.426]
;B[hp]BL[2274.338]
;W[pk]WL[2575.15]C[gghideki [2k?\]: W so agressive
]
;B[ol]BL[2253.086]
;W[qg]WL[2572.361]C[ajahuang [6d\]: yes
sfgss [3d\]: it just looks so easy for him
]
;B[qi]BL[2233.284]
;W[pi]WL[2566.521]
;B[qh]BL[2208.559]C[zeekmund [2k\]: he destroyed pachi 5handi yestarday
]
;W[ph]WL[2555.732]
;B[rg]BL[2190.05]
;W[pg]WL[2553.551]C[sfgss [3d\]: I wish I could live like him
]
;B[jq]BL[2166.727]
;W[kq]WL[2549.995]
;B[iq]BL[2142.147]
;W[kp]WL[2541.373]
;B[mi]BL[2113.877]
;W[qj]WL[2536.017]C[gghideki [2k?\]: He proposed 4 hc game at previous IEEE-FUZZ (ie, last year)
]
;B[ri]BL[2089.686]
;W[pf]WL[2533.982]
;B[pe]BL[2067.258]C[sfgss [3d\]: so he considers zen 4 handi strength?
]
;W[nj]WL[2511.153]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: He is probably thinking; "They will let anyone become 5d these days."
sfgss [3d\]: probably not
]
;B[lk]BL[2042.946]C[sfgss [3d\]: he knows zen quite well
sfgss [3d\]: and lost to zen at 6 handi last year
]
;W[lf]WL[2498.095]C[gghideki [2k?\]: He said 6 and 5 hc are almost the same
ajahuang [6d\]: he nees two eyes now
]
;B[lg]BL[2024.67]
;W[kg]WL[2495.451]
;B[lh]BL[2007.717]C[ajahuang [6d\]: so he was saying that a stone at tengen is huge
]
;W[nl]WL[2483.305]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: Understandable.
]
;B[ok]BL[1989.717]
;W[oj]WL[2480.888]C[sfgss [3d\]: Chou is very good at handi games
gghideki [2k?\]: yah, the viewpoint of W
]
;B[nk]BL[1973.007]
;W[mj]WL[2473.277]
;B[mk]BL[1956.695]C[sfgss [3d\]: I heard that sometimes he gives 6 handi or more to ama 6ds at Taiwan
]
;W[lj]WL[2471.516]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: O_O
ajahuang [6d\]: 6 stones, really?
ajahuang [6d\]: not possible
]
;B[kh]BL[1940.273]
;W[kj]WL[2469.121]C[sfgss [3d\]: or maybe I heard wrong
gghideki [2k?\]: wow
ajahuang [6d\]: no man in the world can give me 6 stones (boldly saying) :)
]
;B[jl]BL[1924.087]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: haha
sfgss [3d\]: probably ^^
ajahuang [6d\]: he will be 12d on KGS
]
;W[ij]WL[2452.32]C[zeekmund [2k\]: there are 11d ?
afk [-\]: that's what they all say :-)
]
;B[ih]BL[1904.941]C[ajahuang [6d\]: highest is 10d in Japan
]
;W[qm]WL[2448.076]C[gghideki [2k?\]: Can Iyama, Aja?
]
;B[pm]BL[1888.865]
;W[pl]WL[2445.78]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: Top professional's can become higher than 12d here but I still agree that 6 stones against you probably is not possible.
ajahuang [6d\]: 6 stones, I think I can beat Iyama with over 70%
]
;B[on]BL[1873.128]
;W[rf]WL[2441.814]C[gghideki [2k?\]: I see
sfgss [3d\]: aja, have you heard of Tobe?
]
;B[qe]BL[1857.525]
;W[rj]WL[2440.767]C[ajahuang [6d\]: can anyone achieve 12d on KGS? I doubt
ajahuang [6d\]: it's all about rating
yoyoma [1d\]: 30% of the time Iyama is stronger than any man on Earth?  :P
]
;B[re]BL[1841.852]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: I go by the lines above 9d.
]
;W[rm]WL[2439.208]
;B[oq]BL[1826.316]
;W[or]WL[2430.838]C[zeekmund [2k\]: aja check 
sfgss [3d\]: Tobe is the first 9d in IGS history by giving ama 5d+ high handi games
ajahuang [6d\]: if 9d barrier is released, can any one reaches 12d?
zeekmund [2k\]: "eku"
]
;B[np]BL[1806.528]
;W[nr]WL[2429.73]
;B[mp]BL[1791.117]C[yoyoma [1d\]: several people have had their rank graphs hit 12d before
]
;W[lr]WL[2424.9]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: Yes, I believe Backpast did.
]
;B[pr]BL[1776.176]
;W[io]WL[2420.709]C[hiss [-\]: w alive?
zeekmund [2k\]: not yet
]
;B[hn]BL[1756.751]C[sfgss [3d\]: I heard that Gu Li beats pro players at 5 handi, in blitz
]
;W[in]WL[2414.398]
;B[hm]BL[1742.122]C[ajahuang [6d\]: eku seems a Japanese pro
]
;W[jr]WL[2412.769]C[sfgss [3d\]: yes
]
;B[ir]BL[1727.646]
;W[js]WL[2411.707]C[sfgss [3d\]: eku shouldn't be strong in pro
]
;B[mq]BL[1713.057]C[ajahuang [6d\]: hmmm...
]
;W[mr]WL[2408.158]
;B[cq]BL[1693.627]C[zeekmund [2k\]: maybe 3p?
]
;W[rn]WL[2404.851]
;B[ah]BL[1679.337]C[ajahuang [6d\]: w uses only 5 mins
]
;W[bl]WL[2401.796]
;B[cm]BL[1665.338]
;W[bm]WL[2399.345]C[zeekmund [2k\]: he's not counting points?
]
;B[bn]BL[1648.649]
;W[cl]WL[2386.281]
;B[kn]BL[1629.891]C[ajahuang [6d\]: P1....
]
;W[os]WL[2372.341]
;B[dl]BL[1614.743]
;W[dk]WL[2369.921]
;B[ej]BL[1601.193]
;W[ak]WL[2368.853]
;B[ob]BL[1587.495]C[hiss [-\]: all w groups seem alive
]
;W[jd]WL[2365.975]
;B[mb]BL[1569.336]
;W[nb]WL[2363.916]C[zeekmund [2k\]: but seems b+
]
;B[na]BL[1556.093]
;W[mc]WL[2362.296]
;B[pc]BL[1538.352]
;W[lb]WL[2358.558]
;B[am]BL[1520.759]
;W[ai]WL[2355.843]
;B[ji]BL[1503.443]
;W[is]WL[2349.966]
;B[gr]BL[1490.853]
;W[hr]WL[2347.85]
;B[hq]BL[1478.247]
;W[hs]WL[2346.202]
;B[gq]BL[1465.757]
;W[gs]WL[2344.625]
;B[fr]BL[1453.658]
;W[fs]WL[2343.026]
;B[jj]BL[1441.43]
;W[el]WL[2341.293]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: G3 mistake? should F2?
]
;B[dm]BL[1429.411]
;W[ek]WL[2340.228]C[ajahuang [6d\]: agree
]
;B[qo]BL[1417.505]
;W[ro]WL[2337.43]
;B[qq]BL[1405.682]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: if zen made this simple mistake means he is leading
]
;W[er]WL[2334.454]C[ajahuang [6d\]: zen is playing safe
]
;B[eq]BL[1393.926]
;W[dr]WL[2333.362]C[zeekmund [2k\]: what if b g3 not h3?
BOThater36 [5d\]: that's what I mean
]
;B[cr]BL[1382.319]
;W[kk]WL[2330.863]
;B[kl]BL[1366.744]
;W[lo]WL[2311.389]
;B[ie]BL[1355.148]
;W[id]WL[2290.183]
;B[df]BL[1338.375]
;W[cg]WL[2284.827]
;B[eg]BL[1327.208]
;W[hk]WL[2283.34]
;B[ag]BL[1315.824]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: A13?
]
;W[mn]WL[2270.927]C[ajahuang [6d\]: 4 points
ajahuang [6d\]: :)
]
;B[mm]BL[1304]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: S4 is much bigger
ajahuang [6d\]: zen is playing safe
]
;W[rp]WL[2256.975]C[guxxan [6d\]: Zen is winning?
BOThater36 [5d\]: yes, so if zen lose I will be very surprise
]
;B[rq]BL[1290.427]
;W[si]WL[2250.915]C[guxxan [6d\]: any komi for this game?
]
;B[rh]BL[1279.729]
;W[je]WL[2248.229]
;B[hd]BL[1266.444]C[TeamLeader [2d?\]: No.
]
;W[hc]WL[2245.302]
;B[he]BL[1255.944]
;W[jg]WL[2244.401]
;B[ig]BL[1245.355]
;W[kf]WL[2243.126]
;B[ln]BL[1234.688]
;W[mo]WL[2233.689]C[gghideki [2k?\]: 4 + 0.5
]
;B[ko]BL[1223.678]
;W[lp]WL[2231.031]C[gghideki [2k?\]: KGS's Chinese rules
]
;B[ik]BL[1213.408]C[gghideki [2k?\]: HC stones are counted as komi
ajahuang [6d\]: what I don't understand is why he plays so fast?
TeamLeader [2d?\]: Maybe forgot he had plans later -_-
gghideki [2k?\]: I have no idea but he was the same last year
]
;W[il]WL[2187.485]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: white is Chou?
gghideki [2k?\]: *he played
zeekmund [2k\]: what about pro matches?
gghideki [2k?\]: yes
]
;B[jk]BL[1203.04]C[zeekmund [2k\]: maybe blitz player?
]
;W[hl]WL[2184.38]C[gghideki [2k?\]: haha
]
;B[hj]BL[1192.915]
;W[gj]WL[2180.549]
;B[fk]BL[1180.468]
;W[im]WL[2160.47]
;B[hi]BL[1170.699]
;W[if]WL[2159.398]
;B[ma]BL[1159.954]
;W[la]WL[2156.451]
;B[oa]BL[1150.243]
;W[hf]WL[2155.552]
;B[gg]BL[1140.641]
;W[no]WL[2153.881]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: B + 5.5
]
;B[oo]BL[1131.036]
;W[gk]WL[2148.591]
;B[em]BL[1118.126]C[hiss [-\]: B+20
]
;W[gm]WL[2142.968]
;B[gn]BL[1108.822]
;W[fm]WL[2141.363]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: oops, my counting :-(
]
;B[fl]BL[1096.546]
;W[gl]WL[2138.19]
;B[an]BL[1087.257]
;W[al]WL[2136.538]
;B[fn]BL[1078.127]
;W[cs]WL[2134.808]
;B[bs]BL[1069.11]
;W[es]WL[2133.855]C[hiss [-\]: or +10...
BOThater36 [5d\]: I close my eye and know this wont be 20 point game..
]
;B[bq]BL[1059.992]
;W[sq]WL[2131.042]C[hiss [-\]: yes
]
;B[sr]BL[1051.168]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: pro wont lose 20 and keep playing
]
;W[sp]WL[2129.777]
;B[rs]BL[1042.275]
;W[ps]WL[2127.196]
;B[qs]BL[1033.605]
;W[gi]WL[2126.226]
;B[gh]BL[1025.056]C[gghideki [2k?\]: For Chou 9p, this is an enjoyable game, I guess
]
;W[ni]WL[2115.38]
;B[nh]BL[1016.508]
;W[oh]WL[2113.845]
;B[ad]BL[1006.301]
;W[ac]WL[2107.637]
;B[nn]BL[994.871]
;W[ng]WL[2105.122]
;B[mh]BL[986.499]
;W[oc]WL[2103.261]
;B[pb]BL[978.191]
;W[jm]WL[2101.911]
;B[of]BL[969.953]
;W[km]WL[2098.779]
;B[lm]BL[961.773]
;W[og]WL[2097.886]
;B[mg]BL[953.764]
;W[gf]WL[2094.999]
;B[ff]BL[945.659]
;W[hg]WL[2094.135]
;B[sf]BL[937.066]
;W[sh]WL[2092.095]
;B[sg]BL[929.17]
;W[sj]WL[2090.507]
;B[hh]BL[921.178]
;W[jf]WL[2088.827]
;B[qp]BL[913.405]
;W[od]WL[2084.542]
;B[oe]BL[904.389]C[ajahuang [6d\]: a solid win of Zen
]
;W[lq]WL[2075.509]
;B[op]BL[896.783]
;W[jh]WL[2073.901]
;B[ki]BL[889.281]
;W[ip]WL[2072.909]C[gghideki [2k?\]: Zen has three corners :)
]
;B[fp]BL[880.234]
;W[dq]WL[2066.067]
;B[fi]BL[870.155]
;W[ho]WL[2063.298]C[gghideki [2k?\]: W must invade 3-3 erlier?
]
;B[jo]BL[859.618]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: I played Chou once h-4, I think I lose 100 ppoints
]
;W[jn]WL[2061.379]
;B[ap]BL[851.67]C[ajahuang [6d\]: no idea, but i think he played really fast
]
;W[ei]WL[2059.756]
;B[li]BL[844.431]
;W[ds]WL[2057.618]
;B[do]BL[833.599]
;W[]WL[2057.611]
;B[]BL[833.592]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][ab][bb][cb][fb][gb][hb][ib][jb][kb][ic][jc][kc][lc][kd][md][ke][oi][aj][pj][bk][qk][rk][sk][ql][rl][sl][sm][sn][so][kr][ks][ls][ms][ns]TB[pa][qa][ra][sa][qb][rb][sb][qc][rc][sc][ed][qd][rd][sd][de][ee][se][ef][rf][fg][ii][ij][ll][ml][nl][nm][om][cn][en][pn][ao][bo][co][eo][fo][po][bp][cp][ep][gp][aq][fq][pq][ar][br][qr][rr][as][ss]C[ajahuang [6d\]: I'm curious why
sfgss [3d\]: congrats!
BOThater36 [5d\]: nice game
gghideki [2k?\]: Thank you very much for playing
ajahuang [6d\]: congratulations to Zen and Hideki!!!
ajahuang [6d\]: and Yamato!!
gghideki [2k?\]: Yamato is not watching :)
ajahuang [6d\]: you will bring my congrats to him :)
gghideki [2k?\]: Ok
gghideki [2k?\]: I think if he played a little more seriously, he could win
BOThater36 [5d\]: how many people know that when Zen play G3, he has game in bag? :-)
gghideki [2k?\]: It seems that he is evauating Zen
gghideki [2k?\]: haha
gghideki [2k?\]: Zen plays very thick if ahead
BOThater36 [5d\]: yes
BOThater36 [5d\]: I hate that :-)
gghideki [2k?\]: lol
gghideki [2k?\]: Thank you and see you all!  bye
])
