(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[13]KM[7.50]TM[2700]
PW[Zen19S]PB[thosoya]WR[5d]DT[2012-03-06]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19S [5d\]: GTP Engine for Zen19S (white): Zen version 8.8pbd10
caribbean [2k\]: go zen!
gghideki [1k?\]: gg
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[jd]BL[2679.678]C[gogonuts [5d\]: how strong is b?
]
;W[dj]WL[2654.387]C[sanpei [5k\]: コミは？
]
;B[fk]BL[2656.613]C[gghideki [1k?\]: kgs 7d, komi is 7.5 pts
HYamashita [3k\]: live is http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv83326156
gogonuts [5d\]: thx
gghideki [1k?\]: Hosoya is the captain of Go circle at U of Tokyo
]
;W[fi]WL[2614.698]C[gghideki [1k?\]: *Go Club
jlg [-\]: http://www.jaist.ac.jp/jaistcup/2012/jc/eng/13roex-eng.html
gogonuts [5d\]: ok, that gives me a rough idea of his strength :-)
]
;B[cd]BL[2613.753]C[motoki [-\]: hosoya san gambatte ! ^^
]
;W[ed]WL[2575.534]C[HYamashita [3k\]: Hosoya san is maybe KGS 7d or 8d?
motoki [-\]: yes 
HYamashita [3k\]: thanks, motoki-san.
motoki [-\]: you are welcome :)
caribbean [2k\]: whats his playing account?
gghideki [1k?\]: Prof Ikeda said he is 7d
motoki [-\]: he doesn't play at all nowadays 
motoki [-\]: but when we were students he was stronger than me :)
sfgss [3d\]: how strong is motoki?
caribbean [2k\]: motoki is not playing
gniag [1k\]: it's a mistery
Luxure [-\]: As a student, he was weaker than thosoya
caribbean [2k\]: but i read he was 7d
]
;B[jj]BL[2223.408]C[jlg [-\]: sfgss: http://www.jaist.ac.jp/jaistcup/2012/jc/eng/13roex-eng.html
sanpei [5k\]: パラパラと打つのがいい？
gniag [1k\]: as in real 7d
caribbean [2k\]: c9
]
;W[jg]WL[2526.672]
;B[hd]BL[2203.678]C[pimpinzens [4d\]: 13x13?
gghideki [1k?\]: Zen expected J4 instead of K4
caribbean [2k\]: j4?
caribbean [2k\]: too ugly
gogonuts [5d\]: close enough :-)
pimpinzens [4d\]: is it a Zen choice or player
]
;W[fj]WL[2476.018]C[pimpinzens [4d\]: 13x13?
HYamashita [3k\]: pro says F4 is un-expected.
gogonuts [5d\]: is that the pro in the video showing variations?
]
;B[hg]BL[2133.537]C[pimpinzens [4d\]: thosoya is pro?
motoki [-\]: no
mukai [7k\]: no
motoki [-\]: the pro is Mitsunaga Junzo 6p
mukai [7k\]: 二窓おいしいです
gogonuts [5d\]: who is putting in all the variations?
]
;W[hh]WL[2437.372]C[motoki [-\]: Mitsunaga 
gogonuts [5d\]: but we see the player?
HYamashita [3k\]: pro commentator is http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/htm/ki000363.htm
motoki [-\]: no, we don't 
gogonuts [5d\]: now im confused
gogonuts [5d\]: i first asked if were seeing the pro
motoki [-\]: on the video, yes (Mitsunaga) and they play in another room I guess
gogonuts [5d\]: thx
caribbean [2k\]: he is really thinking this one
gghideki [1k?\]: Yes, Hosoya and his laptop is in another room
gogonuts [5d\]: this is complicated
gogonuts [5d\]: also, once the fight starts, you cant change much anymore
]
;B[ih]BL[1890.092]C[HYamashita [3k\]: Zen's fighting ability is kgs 9d?! I dont believe that...
caribbean [2k\]: who said that
sfgss [3d\]: j6 is the first instinct
HYamashita [3k\]: mr kato-san.
]
;W[ig]WL[2398.368]
;B[jh]BL[1887.419]C[caribbean [2k\]: haha
gghideki [1k?\]: Yah, hater or someone said so
]
;W[hf]WL[2358.349]
;B[gg]BL[1883.878]C[gghideki [1k?\]: Zen once killed eku's stone
caribbean [2k\]: zen played eku/
caribbean [2k\]: ?
gogonuts [5d\]: pro clicked a bad button :-)
sfgss [3d\]: 9d is overrated
]
;W[gf]WL[2316.786]
;B[fg]BL[1873.627]C[mukai [7k\]: 公式のｋｇｓが落ちたで
pimpinzens [4d\]: i am suprised he escape h7 stones
pimpinzens [4d\]: but maybe just sacrifacing more stones
caribbean [2k\]: would be too good for w otherwise
]
;W[ff]WL[2273.468]C[gghideki [1k?\]: L7 could be the best for W, pro said
]
;B[eg]BL[1861.713]C[pimpinzens [4d\]: i thought black play l7 
gogonuts [5d\]: pro showing a more artful sequence :-)
pimpinzens [4d\]: instead of escaping
]
;W[kg]WL[2228.757]C[caribbean [2k\]: wow
pimpinzens [4d\]: l7 now?
sfgss [3d\]: if zen's calculation is 9d, it won't be killed easily by smartrobot 
pimpinzens [4d\]: nah...
caribbean [2k\]: i dont think zen's fighting is even 5d
caribbean [2k\]: it has other strong points
sfgss [3d\]: I think zen's fighting is about 7d
gogonuts [5d\]: zens center fighting is 7d, corner fighting 4d :-)
]
;B[kh]BL[1754.209]C[pimpinzens [4d\]: how the hell his fighting can be 7d if he plays ko threats before the ko starts:D
gogonuts [5d\]: thats a bot specialty
caribbean [2k\]: and it ignores ovbious miais
caribbean [2k\]: semiais
]
;W[ef]WL[2174.846]C[sfgss [3d\]: zen's overall level is 5-6d, and fighting is almost his strongest part
caribbean [2k\]: maybe among bots
gogonuts [5d\]: its fighting is strong, period
pimpinzens [4d\]: i think his strongest part is positional judgement
caribbean [2k\]: often you'll see a 5d win all the fight vs zen and ends up losing the game
]
;B[dg]BL[1671.469]C[pimpinzens [4d\]: it knows when risk and when to lay safe
sfgss [3d\]: that makes sense too, but positional judgement is hard to tell
sfgss [3d\]: but his fighting clearly strong
sfgss [3d\]: almost every time I got into messy fight with him, I lose
]
;W[gk]WL[2121.48]C[caribbean [2k\]: thats just stronger than you, not strong
pimpinzens [4d\]: umaybe your fighting skills are 3k?:)
sfgss [3d\]: I fight with 4d-5d and no such feeling ^^
gogonuts [5d\]: i win about half against zen, but i very seldom win fights
sfgss [3d\]: gogonuts' statement is more convincing
HYamashita [3k\]: Zen says 54% for w. pro say almost even.
]
;B[df]BL[1569.129]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i dont understand a word hes saying, but he seems to be fairly impressed by zen
caribbean [2k\]: zen might win this
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Wow, on 13x13 Zen must be really strong
]
;W[ie]WL[2071.562]
;B[id]BL[1562.681]C[caribbean [2k\]: k2
pimpinzens [4d\]: m10
]
;W[gc]WL[2020.65]
;B[gd]BL[1477.447]C[HYamashita [3k\]: pro says a little better for B.
]
;W[fd]WL[1967.82]C[pimpinzens [4d\]: g10 looks bad to me
]
;B[dc]BL[1439.233]C[pimpinzens [4d\]: probably eye taking shape move
]
;W[dd]WL[1919.528]
;B[cc]BL[1433.871]C[motoki [-\]: very Hosoya-san like move... :)
motoki [-\]: always overplaying 
pimpinzens [4d\]: l11?:)
]
;W[de]WL[1861.102]
;B[ce]BL[1430.426]
;W[ld]WL[1809.252]C[ChiralSym [5k?\]: Yeah, I'm wondering if L11 can kill black
pimpinzens [4d\]: overplaying is not good idea playing against Zen
HYamashita [3k\]: pro predicts Zen's M10 move.
pimpinzens [4d\]: l11 looks like overplay:)
ChiralSym [5k?\]: <nod>
ChiralSym [5k?\]: which pro?
sfgss [3d\]: I try to imitate zen's center style, but no success
]
;B[kc]BL[1292.621]C[gghideki [1k?\]: Junzo Mitsunaga 6p
gogonuts [5d\]: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv83326156
ChiralSym [5k?\]: <nod> (Mitsunaga 6p)
ChiralSym [5k?\]: gogonuts: what is that?  Live video of this game?
sfgss [3d\]: zen can kill or severly punish the invading stones, I cannot
]
;W[fb]WL[1761.958]C[gogonuts [5d\]: use google chrome so that you can translate the page
gogonuts [5d\]: you have to register
gghideki [1k?\]: They are all from U of Tokyo's Go Club
]
;B[lc]BL[1253.63]C[HYamashita [3k\]: pro says F12 is bad move, W wants B F11 cuts. 
sfgss [3d\]: k2?
gogonuts [5d\]: pro has no experience with bots leading by 0.5 :-)
]
;W[jl]WL[1706.001]C[sfgss [3d\]: I guessed right ^^
HYamashita [3k\]: Zen says 60% for W.
gogonuts [5d\]: thx
]
;B[ec]BL[1171.785]C[gogonuts [5d\]: zens position has this creepy thick feeling now
gogonuts [5d\]: its very hard to beat zen when it gets that
sfgss [3d\]: can w ignore now and kill the lower right?
]
;W[fc]WL[1664.659]
;B[hb]BL[1169.025]C[gogonuts [5d\]: probably no kill
]
;W[kk]WL[1623.818]C[sfgss [3d\]: b doesn't want to be alway on the defense
gghideki [1k?\]: J2 was better instead of K2
sfgss [3d\]: why?
]
;B[hi]BL[1119.806]C[gogonuts [5d\]: better now, but not originally
]
;W[gh]WL[1585.58]C[gghideki [1k?\]: W gets two eyes
gogonuts [5d\]: zen will take this game on points
HYamashita [3k\]: pro says right bottom black is safe.
gogonuts [5d\]: because of hane connect
]
;B[il]BL[1019.81]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: h1?
]
;W[hl]WL[1546.956]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: ^^
gghideki [1k?\]: J2 seems not good, pro said
apbe [1d\]: who's that pro?
gghideki [1k?\]: removing the aji of H3
MrEmDash [2k\]: someone very strong :)
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Pro is:  (gghideki [1k?\] says): Junzo Mitsunaga 6p
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Who is black?
MrEmDash [2k\]: a strong ama i think
ChiralSym [5k?\]: <nod>
]
;B[kj]BL[771.014]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: 7d? or so?
MrEmDash [2k\]: not positive
ChiralSym [5k?\]: <nod>
]
;W[ik]WL[1500.339]C[HYamashita [3k\]: black is strong ama kgs 7d.
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Thx
sfgss [3d\]: m5
]
;B[lk]BL[736.154]
;W[ll]WL[1464.089]
;B[jk]BL[733.412]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: b4/5 getting big
]
;W[kl]WL[1429.248]
;B[li]BL[730.964]C[HYamashita [3k\]: pro says W has a chance to win. B needs some strong move.
gogonuts [5d\]: thx
]
;W[lg]WL[1394.836]C[gogonuts [5d\]: just wanted to ask how he judges the endgame he showed
]
;B[ij]BL[698.93]C[gghideki [1k?\]: M5 is not good by pro
ChiralSym [5k?\]: black alive now?
gogonuts [5d\]: no
ChiralSym [5k?\]: <nod>
]
;W[hk]WL[1360.231]C[gghideki [1k?\]: should be M6
gogonuts [5d\]: only 1 eye in the middle because h4 isnt played
ChiralSym [5k?\]: black n4 makes 2nd eye?
MrEmDash [2k\]: yeah
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Ok
gogonuts [5d\]: bottom line, b cant get sente
kotakun [3k\]: what about white's life?
MrEmDash [2k\]: yeah, that's what i'm looking at
]
;B[mk]BL[611.316]C[sfgss [3d\]: c6
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Yeah, I'm not sure white middle-top is alive.
gogonuts [5d\]: if b m6, w plays for his own stones
]
;W[ci]WL[1328.43]C[gogonuts [5d\]: w m6 sente now
MrEmDash [2k\]: what if b k9?
gogonuts [5d\]: no need
gogonuts [5d\]: zen on the home stretch, it seems
MrEmDash [2k\]: oh, my  misread
MrEmDash [2k\]: :/
sfgss [3d\]: now seems w winning
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Hmm... how does white center make life?
MrEmDash [2k\]: k9 l9 
MrEmDash [2k\]: miai
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Okay, thx ^^
MrEmDash [2k\]: so it seems to me at least :P
]
;B[bh]BL[550.969]C[ChiralSym [5k?\]: <nod>
megs [-\]: The pro was surprised and complimented Zen for C5.
HYamashita [3k\]: pro says B's chance to win is very low now
]
;W[ke]WL[1296.687]C[motoki [-\]: ToT
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Will the pro play Zen? ^_^;
gogonuts [5d\]: surprised? he showed the move himself before
MrEmDash [2k\]: hm, guess zen wasn't satisfied
gogonuts [5d\]: oops
gghideki [1k?\]: 3-3 could be the last gamble for B
gogonuts [5d\]: zen going for the famous 0.5 win :-)
ChiralSym [5k?\]: didn't black just get sente? ^_^;
MrEmDash [2k\]: you think, gogonuts? hehe
MrEmDash [2k\]: That'd be just cruel
ChiralSym [5k?\]: lol
sfgss [3d\]: L9 is bigger than it looks
HYamashita [3k\]: pro says B has to play c3, that a only chance, but it will be fail...
sfgss [3d\]: c3 seems not working to me
gogonuts [5d\]: it is big, because otherwise b captures m10 in sente
]
;B[ck]BL[403.943]C[gogonuts [5d\]: but b5 must be more still
MrEmDash [2k\]: mm
gogonuts [5d\]: b risking all
MrEmDash [2k\]: no choice
ChiralSym [5k?\]: go go go....
gogonuts [5d\]: no 0.5 game now
gogonuts [5d\]: :-)
MrEmDash [2k\]: hehehe
sanpei [5k\]: ^^
]
;W[bi]WL[1266.72]C[cjb [1k\]: c4?
gghideki [1k?\]: any other move than C3 will leads W win
]
;B[bj]BL[394.575]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i think the pro doesnt see life here
MrEmDash [2k\]: wow.. a huge risk
gogonuts [5d\]: but i dont understand his words
]
;W[ai]WL[1237.34]C[gogonuts [5d\]: not a huge risk when your losing :-)
]
;B[el]BL[391.939]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: that's true ^^
sfgss [3d\]: b2
]
;W[dk]WL[1207.996]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: !
sfgss [3d\]: should be a clear kill
gogonuts [5d\]: zen is on the path the pro showed
]
;B[dl]BL[376.58]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: oh really?, hm, pity i can't understand the site :(
sfgss [3d\]: b2 now
Learn [3d\]: d3,d2,b2,b3,a3
]
;W[bl]WL[1179.14]C[ChiralSym [5k?\]: b3?
MrEmDash [2k\]: oh neat
sanpei [5k\]: ^^;
gghideki [1k?\]: 75% winrate for Zen
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Oh...
sfgss [3d\]: is b3, w a3
Learn [3d\]: b die
HYamashita [3k\]: Zen plays pro's comment moves... great
Learn [3d\]: it is easy kill.
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Zen's cheating, but listening in on pro's video
ChiralSym [5k?\]: but --> by
MrEmDash [2k\]: lol
HYamashita [3k\]: B B3 and W A3, b is dead, pro says.
]
;B[bk]BL[287.239]C[sfgss [3d\]: b3, a4
MrEmDash [2k\]: b is dead lol
MrEmDash [2k\]: i think a3 works better
sfgss [3d\]: if c2, ko
]
;W[aj]WL[1151.018]C[sfgss [3d\]: a4 yes
]
;B[al]BL[280.523]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i need a google video translate :-)
MrEmDash [2k\]: a3 = no ko though, right?
motoki [-\]: !!!
HYamashita [3k\]: pro says W  missed!
MrEmDash [2k\]: don't we all gogo? ^^
]
;W[ak]WL[1123.427]
;B[bm]BL[278.066]C[sfgss [3d\]: still ko
MrEmDash [2k\]: how is a3 ko?
gogonuts [5d\]: zen didnt play best
]
;W[am]WL[1097.066]
;B[ge]BL[275.3]C[sfgss [3d\]: even ko, zen still wins
sfgss [3d\]: m6 sente
gogonuts [5d\]: pro showed how a3 instead of a4 kills
HYamashita [3k\]: pro says now game is interesting.
]
;W[fe]WL[1068.42]
;B[al]BL[272.683]C[gogonuts [5d\]: a3 a2 a1 a4 c2 a2 c4 
gogonuts [5d\]: was the kill
MrEmDash [2k\]: yeah, that's what i read
MrEmDash [2k\]: thosoya has to watch time though
]
;W[bf]WL[1042.859]C[kotakun [3k\]: zen doesnt like ko
]
;B[cf]BL[244.803]
;W[am]WL[1018.396]C[gogonuts [5d\]: whats zens winrate now?
sfgss [3d\]: b8 is amazing
sfgss [3d\]: I didn't see b8
]
;B[je]BL[224.675]C[HYamashita [3k\]: pro says B win rate is still low... even if b win this ko.
gghideki [1k?\]: B's time is short
ChiralSym [5k?\]: ignore?
MrEmDash [2k\]: can zen tenuki?
sfgss [3d\]: b8 gets the threat and makes points
gogonuts [5d\]: dcan zen m6?
MrEmDash [2k\]: i think he can...
HYamashita [3k\]: pro says this is not threat
]
;W[mg]WL[990.716]C[gghideki [1k?\]: K9 is a fake threat, pro said
MrEmDash [2k\]: !
]
;B[al]BL[221.059]C[ChiralSym [5k?\]: wow?
MrEmDash [2k\]: :(
gogonuts [5d\]: n7 also wins
cjb [1k\]: does this kill lower right?
gogonuts [5d\]: n5 kills b here
sfgss [3d\]: now LR b dies
]
;W[mi]WL[967.658]C[ChiralSym [5k?\]: Oh I see
cjb [1k\]: miai n5 h4
gogonuts [5d\]: over
MrEmDash [2k\]: !!!
MrEmDash [2k\]: oh god lol
MrEmDash [2k\]: haha
MrEmDash [2k\]: didn't even see that
sfgss [3d\]: 100%
HYamashita [3k\]: pro says game is over...
]
;B[fh]BL[191.664]C[megs [-\]: pro says this is the end.
]
;W[am]WL[944.396]C[ChiralSym [5k?\]: lol!
MrEmDash [2k\]: what!
MrEmDash [2k\]: hahaha
]
;B[jf]BL[182.08]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: oh my god, this is hysterical
Learn [3d\]: ?
cjb [1k\]: still works for W, presumably
]
;W[if]WL[922.327]
;B[al]BL[179.229]C[mukai [7k\]: (´･ω･`)？
]
;W[gi]WL[901.065]
;B[hj]BL[176.083]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: hehe
cjb [1k\]: k5
]
;W[am]WL[880.268]C[ChiralSym [5k?\]: return to ko
sfgss [3d\]: what??
MrEmDash [2k\]: hehehe
]
;B[me]BL[168.329]C[fluidistic [6k\]: i just came here
fluidistic [6k\]: who is losing?
MrEmDash [2k\]: this is great lol
MrEmDash [2k\]: thosoya is
sfgss [3d\]: b losing
]
;W[ji]WL[859.319]C[MrEmDash [2k\]: lol...
fluidistic [6k\]: thx
sfgss [3d\]: now w kills both
gogonuts [5d\]: now really over
motoki [-\]: Zen too strong 
MrEmDash [2k\]: that's ridiculous
gogonuts [5d\]: b cannot win against the big w group at the top
]
;B[al]BL[116.785]
;W[gj]WL[839.612]C[HYamashita [3k\]: oops... 
mukai [7k\]: gg
gogonuts [5d\]: congrats zen
gghideki [1k?\]: Thank you Hosoyasan.
cjb [1k\]: gg
Learn [3d\]: nope
fluidistic [6k\]: thx
fluidistic [6k\]: hi learn
sfgss [3d\]: zen killed a 7d!
megs [-\]: total victory for W, says pro.
sekine3: good gameでした
HYamashita [3k\]: nice game, mr hosoya-san.
fluidistic [6k\]: 7d?
MrEmDash [2k\]: yes
Learn [3d\]: hi fluidistic
fluidistic [6k\]: nice
gogonuts [5d\]: y
hihumin [6k\]: お疲れ様です
fluidistic [6k\]: so zen stronger on 13x13 than 19x19?
gogonuts [5d\]: the smaller the board, the better for bots
ChiralSym [5k?\]: fluid: Yeah, bots are stronger and stronger on small boards
fluidistic [6k\]: I see
iceweasel [-\]: zen superstrong on 5x5
ChiralSym [5k?\]: fluid: on 9x9, bots are insanely strong
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
fluidistic [6k\]: well 5x5 is solved
fluidistic [6k\]: i remember zen bugged on 9x9
fluidistic [6k\]: (didn't count any of its groups)
MrEmDash [2k\]: who zen gonna play now?
gogonuts [5d\]: only thing is its tuned for 19*19
fluidistic [6k\]: Takemiya in a few days?
ChiralSym [5k?\]: what's the url for the video again?  I just registered
gogonuts [5d\]: but the size effect is more important
gogonuts [5d\]: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv83326156
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Thx! :)
iceweasel [-\]: i'm sure only premium (paying) member will be able to watch
gogonuts [5d\]: not so
gogonuts [5d\]: im no premium member
gogonuts [5d\]: :-)
iceweasel [-\]: but they limit room capactity
gogonuts [5d\]: i had to reload a couple of times
fluidistic [6k\]: gogonuts
fluidistic [6k\]: did you see Hideki or zen?
fluidistic [6k\]: zen hardware
gogonuts [5d\]: maybe that doesnt happen to the vips :-)
fluidistic [6k\]: what did you see gogonuts??
gogonuts [5d\]: the board and the pro
fluidistic [6k\]: ah
fluidistic [6k\]: I was hoping to stalk on zen's hardware :D
gogonuts [5d\]: :-)
fluidistic [6k\]: i would love to see a picture of zen
ChiralSym [5k?\]: When is next game?
iceweasel [-\]: http://www.waveney.demon.co.uk/whoswho/Zen.jpeg
fluidistic [6k\]: wait... b is 7d, he's a pro too?
sfgss [3d\]: 7d is not pro
ChiralSym [5k?\]: No, 7d amature, from what I heard
iceweasel [-\]: http://www.hermit.org/blakes7/whoswho/ManyPhotos/Zens.html
sfgss [3d\]: maybe amateur 5 dan
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Game commentary was by a pro
HYamashita [3k\]: in a week. zen will play with pro in 9x9 http://entcog.c.ooco.jp/entcog/contents/symposium/6thE&C.html
fluidistic [6k\]: ah ok
gogonuts [5d\]: motoki said that b used to be stronger than him, at least in the old days
gogonuts [5d\]: so no weakling :-)
fluidistic [6k\]: looks like zen is ready for another game
fluidistic [6k\]: vs takemiya?? (or im dreaming)
sfgss [3d\]: when is the game v. takemiya?
HYamashita [3k\]: yes, zen will play with pro Takemiya 19x19 with 5 handicaps.
fluidistic [6k\]: wow nice
ChiralSym [5k?\]: wow....
ChiralSym [5k?\]: Dang
HYamashita [3k\]: 3/17, http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/news/2012/02/317.html
fluidistic [6k\]: ok in 11 days
sfgss [3d\]: thanks
HYamashita [3k\]: there will be two games,. if Zen wil first game, next game is 4 dandicaps. if lose 6 handi.
fluidistic [6k\]: perfect
fluidistic [6k\]: 5 handicap stone as first game looks reasonable
fluidistic [6k\]: will be nice games
ChiralSym [5k?\]: pro is still analyzing
ChiralSym [5k?\]: I understand like every 10th word with my super weak japanese vocab
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