(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]HA[4]KM[0.50]TM[2700]
PW[ZensGuest]PB[Zen19S]DT[2013-07-09]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19S [-\]: GTP Engine for Zen19S (black): Zen version 10.1d14
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[dp]BL[2697.764]
;B[pd]BL[2696.619]
;B[dd]BL[2695.52]
;B[pp]BL[2694.459]
;W[qf]WL[2688.776]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Whoa, this has to be like 9p or something.
]
;B[nc]BL[2677.908]
;W[qk]WL[2684.325]
;B[gc]BL[2657.207]
;W[cn]WL[2664.471]
;B[dn]BL[2639.313]
;W[dm]WL[2660.942]C[gghideki [?\]: Ping-Chiang Chou 5p http://oase.nutn.edu.tw/FUZZIEEE2013/schedule_day1.htm
]
;B[en]BL[2622.553]
;W[cp]WL[2658.485]
;B[cq]BL[2605.553]
;W[co]WL[2656.748]
;B[dq]BL[2588.966]
;W[cj]WL[2655.237]C[Knight [-\]: 5p vs computer?
reprisal [-\]: 4h hmm
reprisal [-\]: i bet 3 pears on zen
]
;B[em]BL[2569.117]C[York [5d\]: 1W1L
p3achyjr [2d\]: korean pro?
]
;W[dl]WL[2626.446]C[gghideki [?\]: Taiwan
Knight [-\]: I vote for the Human player. :)
]
;B[nq]BL[2549.014]C[p3achyjr [2d\]: ok
]
;W[iq]WL[2621.755]C[reprisal [-\]: if by vote you mean bet 3 pears, you're on
]
;B[kq]BL[2532.403]
;W[fq]WL[2617.548]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Zen solid so far, only interesting thing is G17 is a bit low.
Knight [-\]: Haha, 3 pears it is, my good man.
reprisal [-\]: zen so third line
]
;B[gp]BL[2514.985]C[Knight [-\]: Bob, congrats on the 2d.
Rukis [2k\]: I think g17 is fine
]
;W[gq]WL[2611.134]C[York [5d\]: Zensguest are being played by different players?
reprisal [-\]: its a little unorthodox
]
;B[hp]BL[2498.028]C[York [5d\]: i saw different handi setting
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Thanks Knight.
]
;W[fp]WL[2606.474]C[reprisal [-\]: cant really call it bad though
York [5d\]: and w's strength varies too
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yeah, it's fine Rukis, but low.
Rukis [2k\]: Yes York
jlaire [2d\]: York: The 2H games were against a 6d amateur
jsnd [3k\]: theyre playing pretty quick
gghideki [?\]: York, yes
]
;B[jo]BL[2477.404]C[York [5d\]: lol
Rukis [2k\]: yeah even if it s low it allows tengen
Rukis [2k\]: lol
Rukis [2k\]: k16*
York [5d\]: i don't think a pro can give a 6d amateur 2handis today
]
;W[do]WL[2586.298]C[Knight [-\]: I do
York [5d\]: well, depends on the state
reprisal [-\]: depends on what kind of 6d amateur
]
;B[eo]BL[2459.943]C[reprisal [-\]: that's a rank that doesnt mean much
Knight [-\]: and the level of pro
]
;W[ep]WL[2583.575]C[York [5d\]: could be ok for japanese 6d
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yeah, 6d KGS they could give like 15 stones.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: ;-P
reprisal [-\]: haha
reprisal [-\]: only in blitz
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Obv. joke.
gghideki [?\]: Zen is 5d on non-blitz games
York [5d\]: quite right
BobWhoosta [2d\]: lol
Higanbana [?\]: probably depends on the kind of game too, a long serious game a pro would probably have advantage
Rukis [2k\]: York: http://oase.nutn.edu.tw/FUZZIEEE2013/schedule_day1.htm
]
;B[fo]BL[2442.198]C[p3achyjr [2d\]: 6d tygem
]
;W[er]WL[2573.759]C[Pempu [3d\]: ok showdown in the corner!
jsnd [3k\]: here comes the mayo
reprisal [-\]: shodown over...
Rukis [2k\]: black dies
York [5d\]: all taiwanese?
]
;B[hq]BL[2424.324]C[Pempu [3d\]: black gets j3
Rukis [2k\]: yes
]
;W[hr]WL[2569.849]C[York [5d\]: they don't look like chinese
reprisal [-\]: zen is losing me pears
Knight [-\]: *Pulls out popcorn, and tries to eat through helmet*
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Losing the corner so easily is way good for white.
]
;B[ir]BL[2406.371]
;W[gr]WL[2567.897]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Just needs to live with R9 now...
York [5d\]: go zen
York [5d\]: defeat zen!
]
;B[ip]BL[2388.063]
;W[dr]WL[2563.893]C[reprisal [-\]:  have to say, so far zen is playing like...a human 1k
]
;B[qm]BL[2369.342]C[York [5d\]: but zen is still leading for a bit
p3achyjr [2d\]: no 1k is actually pretty good when they try
York [5d\]: some 10 points
]
;W[rd]WL[2547.525]C[p3achyjr [2d\]: either that or i suck
York [5d\]: go zen!
reprisal [-\]: not just the skill though
reprisal [-\]: the moves are...not very zenlike
]
;B[qc]BL[2350.541]
;W[ph]WL[2543.061]C[p3achyjr [2d\]: hahahaha
eatramen [?\]: how strong is 19S supposed to be?
York [5d\]: what is a zenlike move then?
reprisal [-\]: stuff like...o9
kingstone [2d?\]: i guess zen plays solid, when he is ahead
gdfdgdff: play is gonna be different at 4 handi
]
;B[pk]BL[2327.649]
;W[qj]WL[2537.048]C[jsnd [3k\]: lol
gghideki [?\]: Zen19S is 5d (about 5.3d)
reprisal [-\]: all these third line extensions and r17moves are not zenlike
]
;B[pl]BL[2307.859]C[York [5d\]: sansan!
]
;W[qq]WL[2528.717]C[Ritm [3k\]: i guess oponent style changes zen moves
Ritm [3k\]: a little
p3achyjr [2d\]: q9 and q8 are kinda sh8t
York [5d\]: i guessed a pro move
]
;B[qp]BL[2288.467]C[zegreus [7k\]: feels like white is bullying black
]
;W[rp]WL[2522.011]C[Higanbana [?\]: they seem to be playing kinda fast for time settings
zegreus [7k\]: from a newb's perspec
jsnd [3k\]: no, b doesnt want the corners
]
;B[ro]BL[2268.929]C[Demon [3d\]: feels like w will have no problem removing this handicap
Rukis [2k\]: Higanbana
Rukis [2k\]: its Sudden death
jsnd [3k\]: b couldnt be happier with these sequences
York [5d\]: zen is the dishi of takemiya masaki
p3achyjr [2d\]: well if he doesnt b has lots of problems
]
;W[rr]WL[2507.86]C[Higanbana [?\]: ah I see thanks rukis
GoBaba [7k\]: sorry, are these two both bots???
]
;B[sp]BL[2248.798]C[p3achyjr [2d\]: w is 5p
Knight [-\]: W is 5p
York [5d\]: yes, a bot IRL and a bot in matrix
jlaire [2d\]: I'd love to see a bot that can give zen 4h
p3achyjr [2d\]: what york said
zogleheros [7k\]: w is a 5p bot
Knight [-\]: York. xD
]
;W[sq]WL[2491.477]
;B[jd]BL[2228.714]
;W[so]WL[2487.785]C[GoBaba [7k\]: wow
Rukis [2k\]: haha he played it xD
York [5d\]: whats D16-G17-K16?
gdfdgdff: k16 was very zen
]
;B[ce]BL[2208.297]C[York [5d\]: Zen searched some ancient japanese kifu?
Rukis [2k\]: c16 was Zen
York [5d\]: things are bad
York [5d\]: Zen is bad at corner fighting but good at center
York [5d\]: is the pro going to lose???
Knight [-\]: Pro is fine
Higanbana [?\]: no he must win for humanity
Pempu [3d\]: I still can't read what happens if white doesnt play D2
Knight [-\]: As long as he doesn't let b center get too big
Ritm [3k\]: pro is doing 4 other stuff while playing this game
eatramen [?\]: is zen a titan
eatramen [?\]: will it eat us
nanomoyo [1d\]: down wit ro butts
York [5d\]: Zen would send out termintaor to us
]
;W[ld]WL[2363.599]C[maltian [8k\]: wr?
York [5d\]: ready to P17 if b M17?
zegreus [7k\]: omw that's so awesome
]
;B[kf]BL[2185.578]C[York [5d\]: but zen would not fall into this kind of trap
York [5d\]: ah, zen going to D11 next
]
;W[mc]WL[2308.901]C[reprisal [-\]: if it is n15 i will be confident that zen is back
]
;B[me]BL[2163.265]C[reprisal [-\]: yay!
reprisal [-\]: i was worried :)
York [5d\]: you are a big fan of zen!
reprisal [-\]: i welcome the domination of our new algorithmic overlords
zegreus [7k\]: who is zensguest?
]
;W[fc]WL[2255.738]C[Pempu [3d\]: Ping-Chiang Chou 5p 
York [5d\]: some random unlucky pro assigned to be slain by zen (jk)
]
;B[fd]BL[2136.552]C[Knight [-\]: It'll be a sad day when Pros lose to AI regularly. 
BobWhoosta [2d\]: This attachment is sweet.
reprisal [-\]: nah, it'll be glorious
BobWhoosta [2d\]: When AI can give 9p 3 stones...
]
;W[ec]WL[2227.481]C[Architect [2k\]: they are contribing to AI evolution
reprisal [-\]: viva la revolucion!
York [5d\]: then we are not far from the judgement day
Pempu [3d\]: I'll agree to glorious also 
zogleheros [7k\]: not anyday soon
]
;B[gb]BL[2109.359]C[reprisal [-\]: not tomorrow, but within my life, surely
zegreus [7k\]: hook up  all our video cards and give our AI overloads computing power
zogleheros [7k\]: judgement day 100 years too early
icewater [1d\]: you know reprisal, when AI takes over the world, it will probably look over the comments in the game records and see that you like it and be nice to you ;)
]
;W[jc]WL[2203.737]C[reprisal [-\]: i hope!
York [5d\]: ah
]
;B[ic]BL[2087.945]C[York [5d\]: i see the trick again
GoBaba [7k\]: now, one of w groups is for aji, right?
Knight [-\]: In that case, "I LOVE AI"
York [5d\]: same rick
reprisal [-\]: when in doubt, pick the winning team at least
York [5d\]: trick
LEIBNIZ [2k\]: Zen is Great!
York [5d\]: there's no doubt that Zen would win
York [5d\]: I am betting 5dan on it
Higanbana [?\]: I think the current approaches to Go AI will never beat any decent pro
Ritm [3k\]: w kind of peacefull
zegreus [7k\]: i'm betting 5dan
reprisal [-\]: never is a long ****** time
Architect [2k\]: last game, if wasnt by w mistake, the difference was 13 points
Architect [2k\]: with 4 hc
Architect [2k\]: pretty impressive
Higanbana [?\]: if bots end up beating pros, it will have to be a completely different approach to writing the algorithms
Knight [-\]: Top side is not going as well as the bottom side for W.
York [5d\]: the Architect appears
York [5d\]: Later would be the Oracle
lofuchi [3k\]: lol
apple789 [8k\]: what is w doing here?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Consuming aji.
Pempu [3d\]: what about the spoon then?
jlaire [2d\]: what spoon?
]
;W[nb]WL[2093.683]C[icewater [1d\]: maybe white is creating aji
GoBaba [7k\]: no spoon
York [5d\]: W thought a bot would make mistake due to nervous like a human do
Rukis [2k\]: im betting onHigabana i hope your referring to nigir games
BobWhoosta [2d\]: There is no spoon Pempu...
]
;B[nd]BL[2064.747]C[GoBaba [7k\]: and the fork?
Alejo [14k?\]: a few years ago, AIs couldnt beat any good SDK player... now they're facing pros... its just a matter of years...
BobWhoosta [2d\]: White will soon find that Zen loves to tenuki ko.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Then it will be "Where can I make a horrible horrible ko????"
York [5d\]: Well, they would never reach a pro by simply using MC
reprisal [-\]: yeah, zen is better at punishing this sort of tricksy play than 5d humans
reprisal [-\]: zen already uses stuff beyond pure MC
Higanbana [?\]: yes thats what I'm saying york
]
;W[kc]WL[2034.28]C[reprisal [-\]: if it was just MC it wouldnt have the edge it does
York [5d\]: anyway
York [5d\]: using MC sounds like cheating to me
]
;B[ob]BL[2043.594]C[lofuchi [3k\]: beyond pure MC...what is the new stuff?
icewater [1d\]: ko
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Modified MC.
]
;W[ib]WL[2021.184]C[Architect [2k\]: easy to say that when we think about blitz @reprisal
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Using paring algorithms.
York [5d\]: afterall its a human move instead a bot move to defeat a pro
Higanbana [?\]: MC with a lot of emphasis on dividing the board into independent regions
Rukis [2k\]: mc？
BobWhoosta [2d\]: The many armed bandit and such.
lofuchi [3k\]: cool
GoKoala [4k\]: does zen use library lookups?
]
;B[hd]BL[2022.691]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Monte Carlo.
lofuchi [3k\]: i know many armed bandit
lofuchi [3k\]: i see
]
;W[lb]WL[2007.436]C[Architect [2k\]: ko
York [5d\]: ko?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: No ko I think.
Rukis [2k\]: Is this Calc?
icewater [1d\]: just alive i think
BobWhoosta [2d\]: White just two eyes.
reprisal [-\]: w living so painfully like this isnt a great result though
nanomoyo [1d\]: alive
York [5d\]: but bad
]
;B[na]BL[2001.64]C[York [5d\]: b superthick
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Last I checked it was enough to live.
]
;W[je]WL[1998.592]C[Demon [3d\]: why ko when you're just alive?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yeah, black center will soon become unbreachable.
icewater [1d\]: very tricky move by white
]
;B[ke]BL[1976.563]
;W[kd]WL[1997.269]C[icewater [1d\]: trying to get sente
Rukis [2k\]: white will tengen :D
Architect [2k\]: this is the zen style... get the center
York [5d\]: b's wall is bulletproof
Rukis [2k\]: white has sente
]
;B[id]BL[1956.311]C[Higanbana [?\]: no need to tengen, he can push from left and right
York [5d\]: D12?
]
;W[hb]WL[1985.608]C[threeoone [4k\]: hi alll
Knight [-\]: Wow, B is so think
BobWhoosta [2d\]: That wasn't alive as is?
Knight [-\]: thick*
icewater [1d\]: guess not
Rukis [2k\]: nno i'm saying whtie will end up playing tengen :D
]
;B[jl]BL[1935.122]C[Knight [-\]: I think it was
reprisal [-\]: wow
reprisal [-\]: conservative
York [5d\]: B+75.5
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Or maybe white wanted to preserve corner aji??
]
;W[cc]WL[1973.629]C[York [5d\]: says by SE
York [5d\]: final boss of AI: SE
lofuchi [3k\]: i belive :)
lofuchi [3k\]: believe*
skillup [6d\]: SE is the strongest
York [5d\]: kills the unkillable group and make alive unlivable groups
]
;B[dc]BL[1915.096]
;W[db]WL[1970.334]C[Higanbana [?\]: would be nice if we got some zen based SE
lofuchi [3k\]: standard error 
BobWhoosta [2d\]: York that would be a tough opponent to face.
]
;B[bc]BL[1895.409]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: I've seen SE kill a group with 7 eyes.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Fantastic stuff.
]
;W[ed]WL[1961.578]C[Knight [-\]: lol
Rukis [2k\]: no doubt the rules wasnt japanese
York [5d\]: i am no match to se...:(
replay: and u didnt post it on your fb page ?
]
;B[ee]BL[1875.845]
;W[cd]WL[1960.286]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: I did, I just blocked you.
York [5d\]: lol
threeoone [4k\]: lol
icewater [1d\]: white likes to invade small places
]
;B[de]BL[1856.103]
;W[bd]WL[1958.923]C[lofuchi [3k\]: but it works :P
York [5d\]: very kyuish style
Architect [2k\]: shinoji
reprisal [-\]: i think it will be effective
York [5d\]: reminds me RC
reprisal [-\]: b k8 is not very ambitious
]
;B[eb]BL[1837.066]
;W[bb]WL[1956.734]C[reprisal [-\]: hard to win like that
icewater [1d\]: p11 maybe?
]
;B[el]BL[1815.285]C[threeoone [4k\]: white big territory
Higanbana [?\]: with as much as b had, was there any other way?
Architect [2k\]: w cant tenuki this
]
;W[ej]WL[1930.49]C[threeoone [4k\]: can b defend his center ?
York [5d\]: go Zen
]
;B[dk]BL[1793.177]C[York [5d\]: What a great computer
Architect [2k\]: which zen?
icewater [1d\]: brave move by zen
reprisal [-\]: cant say this feels like zen's best showing
Knight [-\]: W has solid points, but how much of B's center can W reduce
threeoone [4k\]: CS thinks 0.62 some moves back
zegreus [7k\]: zen uses the fire ex
lofuchi [3k\]: D9 is surprising to me
skillup [6d\]: c9 
]
;W[ck]WL[1887.908]C[threeoone [4k\]: d10
York [5d\]: Go
threeoone [4k\]: and hane
Higanbana [?\]: is there a command you can send to zen to ask it's estimation of the game?
icewater [1d\]: d10 would be pretty crazy
]
;B[fj]BL[1774.733]C[icewater [1d\]: ahh normal move
York [5d\]: it reminds me some tygem cheering command
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Great hane attach combination.
York [5d\]: Go teacher. You must win.
York [5d\]: Zen. You must win.
lofuchi [3k\]: i see why D9 now :P
lofuchi [3k\]: nice
Architect [2k\]: it would be nicer if w win
threeoone [4k\]: w has lots o territory
York [5d\]: I learned a move from zen
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Needs kosumi at P11?
]
;W[fi]WL[1827.533]C[York [5d\]: well, its indeed some previous pro...
zegreus [7k\]: yeah all three corners and has most of the sides
]
;B[gi]BL[1756.917]
;W[fk]WL[1823.661]C[Architect [2k\]: this is nothing compared to the center
]
;B[gj]BL[1738.864]
;W[ek]WL[1822.48]C[skillup [6d\]: f9 would be losing move
lofuchi [3k\]: but then..h11 is strange
Architect [2k\]: that was nice
zegreus [7k\]: center will be crushed
Knight [-\]: B's center is huge
lofuchi [3k\]: sorry g11
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Center is pretty small if white can get a move or two in.
skillup [6d\]: but I can't find any better move
threeoone [4k\]: b lost
gghideki [?\]: ? changed mind?
]
;B[fh]BL[1720.939]C[York [5d\]: if even a 6d can spot out a mistake of pro, then that mistake is really bad
icewater [1d\]: white has about 60 points already
York [5d\]: lol no offend
York [5d\]: i mean i expect a pro should be much stronger
threeoone [4k\]: even k9 is possible
threeoone [4k\]: w k9
lofuchi [3k\]: is the distance really that big between high dans and pros?
redreoicy [2d\]: zen is like the 4th piggy
Architect [2k\]: lol
BobWhoosta [2d\]: k9 is possible, but it probably won't live.
reprisal [-\]: k9 looks absurd
lofuchi [3k\]: i actually doubt it..
redreoicy [2d\]: who builds his center with walls of steel
]
;W[gk]WL[1756.883]C[Ritm [3k\]: well, for what i have study of pro games, many moves are considered mistakes by analizing if the folowwing secuence works
gghideki [?\]: tengen?
]
;B[ij]BL[1703.19]C[York [5d\]: i20
gdfdgdff: close
icewater [1d\]: zen has more than 60
York [5d\]: nuclear tesuji
]
;W[nh]WL[1742.527]C[Architect [2k\]: go W!!!
p3achyjr [2d\]: disconnect tesuji
BobWhoosta [2d\]: White counting??
]
;B[oi]BL[1682.699]C[York [5d\]: human can't lose to bot!!!!!
Architect [2k\]:                                                                                 Go Mr. White!
icewater [1d\]: so currently zen wining
York [5d\]: no way
BobWhoosta [2d\]: This game will come down to counting.
]
;W[oh]WL[1735.456]C[jae [9k\]: go Zen
threeoone [4k\]: just a look at s3 is enough to have a clue
jae [9k\]: keep playing Go
jae [9k\]: Go
CuTy [-\]: go me!
replay: b potential is melting like ice under the sun
]
;B[mi]BL[1665.206]C[elementc [?\]: 化け物
]
;W[ni]WL[1727.683]C[Architect [2k\]: u all dont understand the point...zen must lost to be evolved
lofuchi [3k\]: it melts for no reason to me :P
]
;B[mj]BL[1647.529]
;W[lg]WL[1722.047]C[zegreus [7k\]: zen needs more video cards
lofuchi [3k\]: some moves are so odd :P
York [5d\]: is it implying Takemiya got the truth of go?
]
;B[kg]BL[1630.14]C[replay: video cards ?
]
;W[lh]WL[1718.531]C[Monkeyfool [7k\]: n13 is beautiful
zegreus [7k\]: parallel computing
]
;B[ki]BL[1613.296]
;W[kh]WL[1711.662]C[replay: phi get better results
]
;B[jh]BL[1596.709]
;W[li]WL[1710.688]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Black's lead has dropped by 10 points in the past 10 moves.
icewater [1d\]: on the other hand white has reduced much of the handicap
Architect [2k\]: john, is reprisal a pokemon?
zegreus [7k\]: that makes no sense
Monkeyfool [7k\]: holy n13 was amazing
]
;B[lj]BL[1579.801]
;W[ji]WL[1708.786]C[Rukis [2k\]: n13?
Akagi316 [?\]: game over
Monkeyfool [7k\]: m13*
Akagi316 [?\]: w wins
Monkeyfool [7k\]: fail typo
gghideki [?\]: ?
]
;B[kj]BL[1563.325]
;W[jg]WL[1707.814]C[York [5d\]: i13 better
replay: that was a published paper
lofuchi [3k\]: oh w sees something
Monkeyfool [7k\]: heres comes the m13 hammier
Rukis [2k\]: i13 hasnt been played yet
]
;B[ih]BL[1546.246]C[reprisal [-\]: no, its from marathon
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Cut.
]
;W[le]WL[1703.411]C[Monkeyfool [7k\]: god that was sexy
Monkeyfool [7k\]: I may need to change my pants after m13
]
;B[jf]BL[1529.646]
;W[lf]WL[1701.674]C[jae [9k\]: Zen is going to kill corner?
]
;B[ig]BL[1512.161]C[p3achyjr [2d\]: unfortunately that corner is alive
]
;W[rc]WL[1696.318]C[replay: s18?
York [5d\]: mp
Knight [-\]: Corner not really killable
York [5d\]: no
lofuchi [3k\]: that corner is alive
Rukis [2k\]: ki;; what corner?
Pempu [3d\]: endgame
reprisal [-\]: s17 in sente is pretty nice though
zzz [2k\]: n18 
lofuchi [3k\]: but it worths something in yose
jae [9k\]: im possible
threeoone [4k\]: done
jae [9k\]: isn't?
]
;B[rb]BL[1490.119]C[Knight [-\]: Huge end-game though
skillup [6d\]: very easy to live
]
;W[sb]WL[1688.238]C[Architect [2k\]: please kill it
jae [9k\]: haha
York [5d\]: even a 9k can make 2eyes
York [5d\]: with this shape
Monkeyfool [7k\]: it's alive
threeoone [4k\]: q 19 first
]
;B[pr]BL[1470.881]C[gdfdgdff: you overestimate 9k
reprisal [-\]: haha
]
;W[rn]WL[1683.076]C[Nodos [1k\]: tenuki like a boss
lofuchi [3k\]: lol
Knight [-\]: Architect wants a sharp W win
p3achyjr [2d\]: dude 9k is strong
lofuchi [3k\]: i think it requires a 3k to do it :P
]
;B[qo]BL[1454.829]C[vitamancy [7k\]: You overestimate 7k!
kingstone [2d?\]: Q2 = nice
York [5d\]: not better than 18k tygem
p3achyjr [2d\]: third best at our go club
p3achyjr [2d\]: hahahaha
York [5d\]: i lost some games against tygem18k before
p3achyjr [2d\]: 18k tygem=9d kgs
skillup [6d\]: I was actually 18k before..
Ritm [3k\]: 18 tygem is 30kyu-5dan kgs xd
]
;W[mb]WL[1649.518]
;B[qb]BL[1433.831]C[threeoone [4k\]: www.littlegolem.net
jae [9k\]: i hate littlegolem
]
;W[oe]WL[1630.089]C[threeoone [4k\]: well THINK
]
;B[qe]BL[1417.675]
;W[re]WL[1628.364]C[York [5d\]: can Zen do Hatsuyo-ron?
]
;B[od]BL[1401.724]
;W[pc]WL[1605.683]C[jae [9k\]: what is that?
jae [9k\]: hatsuyo-ron?
skillup [6d\]: 発揚論！
lofuchi [3k\]: well....
Nodos [1k\]: what is this
Knight [-\]: an attempt to kill.
York [5d\]: the known harddest tsumego set
]
;B[ra]BL[1385.123]C[p3achyjr [2d\]: satan's liasion
]
;W[pa]WL[1602.154]C[lofuchi [3k\]: how could this happen :P
Knight [-\]: Wow...
p3achyjr [2d\]: actually apparently
Nodos [1k\]: w doesnt have enough?
Monkeyfool [7k\]: oh god
Pempu [3d\]: iih
Knight [-\]: B died
threeoone [4k\]: famous go problem suit from ancient china
Architect [2k\]: boom[
]
;B[rf]BL[1369.184]C[p3achyjr [2d\]: apparentl
]
;W[qg]WL[1596.805]C[replay: its like 50 moves dragon to win by half point
York [5d\]: that was from japan
Architect [2k\]: even a 9k can make 2 eyes there hum??
Knight [-\]: And boom goes the dynamite
p3achyjr [2d\]: some contemporary chinese tsumego books are harder
lofuchi [3k\]: u see, it is not as easy as u said :P
Architect [2k\]: lol
]
;B[da]BL[1354.268]C[reprisal [-\]: well
Monkeyfool [7k\]: black tenuki
lofuchi [3k\]: it requires a 3k to do it at least
reprisal [-\]: pretty easy before b tenuki
]
;W[cb]WL[1592.503]C[lofuchi [3k\]: haha
gdfdgdff: zen did tenuki
York [5d\]: quite true
Monkeyfool [7k\]: exactly what reprisaly said
lofuchi [3k\]: i know
Monkeyfool [7k\]: also
reprisal [-\]: q2 made things trickier
Nodos [1k\]: b tenuki of death
Monkeyfool [7k\]: I would like to point out
Monkeyfool [7k\]: the beauty of m13
Knight [-\]: Wow
]
;B[cr]BL[1335.839]C[Knight [-\]: W is going to win!
Ootakamoku [2d\]: any dan player would tenuki after w r13 I think
reprisal [-\]: desparation move
York [5d\]: desperate mode on
Knight [-\]: ^_^
reprisal [-\]: game over :(
]
;W[bq]WL[1582.443]C[reprisal [-\]: i lose my pears
Monkeyfool [7k\]: seriously gave me shivers that move was so beautiful
Higanbana [?\]: 9k probably would not have q2 indeed
gghideki [?\]: ouch
York [5d\]: I won 5d
York [5d\]: now i am a 10d player
Nodos [1k\]: m13 worked because of b's bad shape
]
;B[cm]BL[1318.768]
;W[cl]WL[1578.384]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: York, thought you bet Zen win?
skillup [6d\]: How poor b played!
York [5d\]: i mean ZensGuest
skillup [6d\]: haha
reprisal [-\]: yeah
p3achyjr [2d\]: uh huh
]
;B[di]BL[1304.82]
;W[dj]WL[1576.115]C[reprisal [-\]: handicap went to her head
Eduardo [1k\]: :o!!!
Alejo [14k?\]: pros tend to live even in the opponents bowls... so... 
Knight [-\]: Easy to switch allegiance when both are named zen
reprisal [-\]: just like human :(
Knight [-\]: lol
York [5d\]: indeed
]
;B[bp]BL[1287.773]
;W[br]WL[1571.92]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: early on in the game, it felt like zen was just.. overconfident, not caring about results as winning anyways.
York [5d\]: and adding up my 4d certificate IRL i am a 14d player
reprisal [-\]: you have failed me, my beautiful algorithmic future
MrMatou [5k\]: zen win ?
gghideki [?\]: hard
]
;B[bn]BL[1270.586]
;W[bm]WL[1568.674]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Stronger than Huong Longshi.
Architect [2k\]: man, w made a beautifull kill
lofuchi [3k\]: maybe zen sees something that humans don't see here :P
York [5d\]: Huang is 13p
Architect [2k\]: yep
]
;B[sf]BL[1255.165]C[threeoone [4k\]: zen resign
reprisal [-\]: that kill was pretty straightforward
Monkeyfool [7k\]: I'm telling you m13 was so gorgeous
]
;W[rg]WL[1563.589]C[lofuchi [3k\]: the tenuki is gorgeous
gruenwald [2d\]: pure despiration
]
;B[mh]BL[1239.325]C[Monkeyfool [7k\]: The tenuki was stupid
p3achyjr [2d\]: in chinese keima=flying horse
]
;W[mg]WL[1560.316]C[York [5d\]: i can't believe zen could messed up high kyu level LD
replay: tattoo m13 on your butt dude
lofuchi [3k\]: lol
threeoone [4k\]: amashi
]
;B[bo]BL[1222.455]C[Monkeyfool [7k\]: I freaking would if you could fit the whole game on my fat ass
Ritm [3k\]: sad moment when zen starts resing preparation moves, 
MrMatou [5k\]: zen have win now ?
]
;W[cm]WL[1554.441]C[York [5d\]: zen wins
York [5d\]: zen loses
York [5d\]: :(
lofuchi [3k\]: so zen :)
]
;B[cs]BL[1209.863]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Zen wins the loser's bracket.
]
;W[bs]WL[1547.553]C[skillup [6d\]: b got mad
Nodos [1k\]: zen always wins be he also sometimes loses
Ootakamoku [2d\]: p3achyjr, pegasus?
skillup [6d\]: as is the often case with bot ;D
gdfdgdff: mcts moves
threeoone [4k\]: if u play amashi to zen it always loses
]
;B[ca]BL[1193.531]C[replay: in a couple years no one on kgs will beat bots
]
;W[ba]WL[1544.308]C[zegreus [7k\]: zen is crushed
p3achyjr [2d\]: hahaha
p3achyjr [2d\]: no i meant
replay: so enjoy till u can
York [5d\]: lol
p3achyjr [2d\]: the go term in chinese is literally
BobWhoosta [2d\]: threeone, white kind of amashied this game.
]
;B[aq]BL[1177.388]C[Nodos [1k\]: couple of years is too soon 
threeoone [4k\]: it has as all others no big clue to l&d
p3achyjr [2d\]: flying horsie
]
;W[eq]WL[1540.352]C[Architect [2k\]: this means zenguest is 10 dan
]
;B[qr]BL[1161.203]C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Taking lots of small territory in many places...
MrMatou [5k\]: 5p
]
;W[rm]WL[1529.673]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: dont say bad things about zen, if zen goes into a tantarum it might crash whole kgs in a fit of rage.
]
;B[ql]BL[1149.097]C[York [5d\]: :O
]
;W[rl]WL[1521.058]C[lofuchi [3k\]: lol
York [5d\]: is Zen self-aware now?
lofuchi [3k\]: probably
York [5d\]: like Siri or HAL?
])