(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
PW[fj]PB[Zen19S]WR[6d]DT[2015-10-03]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19S [-\]: GTP Engine for Zen19S (black): Zen version 10.4d13
fj [6d\]: hi, gg ^^
]RE[B+1.50]
;B[pd]BL[3580.519]C[gghideki [2k?\]: gg, fj
]
;W[dd]WL[3562.969]
;B[pp]BL[3547.01]
;W[eq]WL[3499.886]
;B[do]BL[3519.202]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: Zen seems to use thinking time more clever than CrazyStone last year
GoIngo [29k?\]: hi goldenbear
]
;W[cp]WL[3434.228]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: GoIngo, and you figured that out already after three Black moves ;-)
GoIngo [29k?\]: yes
GoldenBear [1d\]: Hello Ingo!
GoIngo [29k?\]: crazystone started with constantly 40 seconds
]
;B[co]BL[3495.1]
;W[dp]WL[3426.839]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: hi georg
]
;B[fo]BL[3462.594]C[Xylol [4k\]: b5 ?
GoIngo [29k?\]: zen seems to go for mojo shape
]
;W[gp]WL[3335.692]
;B[fp]BL[3438.007]
;W[fq]WL[3326.918]
;B[go]BL[3413.944]
;W[hp]WL[3281.69]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: I always wonder. Pushing like F4 seems so aji keshi...
]
;B[ho]BL[3389.909]
;W[ip]WL[3279.637]C[Xylol [4k\]: d14 
]
;B[di]BL[3357.365]
;W[cg]WL[3062.842]
;B[ch]BL[3328.599]
;W[dg]WL[3042.193]
;B[jd]BL[3298.628]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: BTW - Welcome everybody to round 1 of the codecentric go challenge 2015!
GoldenBear [1d\]: Visit us at go.codecentric.de
]
;W[qj]WL[3005.381]
;B[qh]BL[3265.04]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: I HAVE cRAZYsTONE RUNNING IN ANALYSIS MODE
GoIngo [29k?\]: sorry for capitals
GoldenBear [1d\]: And you have Caps lock activated ;-)
GoIngo [29k?\]: is corrected now ;-)
]
;W[pn]WL[2884.335]C[Jazzman [1d\]: game still even, id say :)
GoldenBear [1d\]: Yes - give us Crazy Stones assessment of the position from time to time, Ingo!
]
;B[qn]BL[3230.789]
;W[qm]WL[2868.874]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: before p6 it was 49 % for black
]
;B[qo]BL[3206.74]
;W[pm]WL[2866.762]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: sorry, before q6
]
;B[np]BL[3172.97]C[bluetable [-\]: that's right
DerMeyer [1k\]: b spared a move at f11
DerMeyer [1k\]: he is a little week there now
DerMeyer [1k\]: sorry, it
DerMeyer [1k\]: o6 also gives w a good move at m3 later
GoIngo [29k?\]: @derMeyer: "little week" - you mean long thursday a nd then long weekend ?
GoIngo [29k?\]: ;-)
DerMeyer [1k\]: lol
]
;W[fi]WL[2618.683]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: wyk oc
]
;B[eh]BL[3146.463]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: better so?
GoIngo [29k?\]: ha, someone mentioned f11
GoIngo [29k?\]: oc what?
Jazzman [1d\]: wiik
DerMeyer [1k\]: of course
GoIngo [29k?\]: and I thought oc stands for "or so" :-)
GoIngo [29k?\]: crazy stone did not understand f11 and likes e12 now
]
;W[dk]WL[2483.638]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: 51 % for white
GoIngo [29k?\]: for black, sorry
]
;B[ej]BL[3117.351]
;W[fl]WL[2464.41]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: i guess fj will succeed in reduciing most of the b influence on the left side
]
;B[fk]BL[3092.619]C[Gopard [2d\]: maybe
]
;W[dm]WL[2394.647]C[Gopard [2d\]: but now its territory ;-)
]
;B[gl]BL[3067.564]
;W[fm]WL[2388.429]C[Jazzman [1d\]: yes, turned b influence into w territory :-)
]
;B[hl]BL[3034.676]
;W[eo]WL[2347.633]
;B[bk]BL[3002.499]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: not really a good start for zen )))?
]
;W[io]WL[2332.757]
;B[in]BL[2971.305]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: h8 also left an ladder in direktion of its own moyo
GoIngo [29k?\]: the other bot is still at 51.5 % for black
DerMeyer [1k\]: taht canot be a good idea
toalla: tenuki
GoldenBear [1d\]: I suppose that the positive assessment of the bots comes from halluzinating black territory in the center.
]
;W[bm]WL[1944.294]
;B[oi]BL[2945.831]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: Random playouts might result in a lot of big black Moyos in the center.
GoIngo [29k?\]: i think so too
]
;W[nk]WL[1879.589]
;B[ok]BL[2912.797]
;W[ol]WL[1750.901]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: What could help black might be a sharp fight - mybe one is starting right now. 
]
;B[pk]BL[2887.715]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: the crazy brother is happy with black here - above 55 %
DerMeyer [1k\]: nomen est omen
GoIngo [29k?\]: ;-)
GoldenBear [1d\]: FJ has been very generous with his thinking time. That may come to haunt him in a fight later.
DerMeyer [1k\]: may be, but he is also a very good lightning player
]
;W[mn]WL[1521.027]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: some months ago he had a game with crazyX where he played too quickly in the beginning ...
Jazzman [1d\]: wow n6
]
;B[nj]BL[2853.676]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: No doubt. But if it comes to lightning, the bots should have a relative advantage
Jazzman [1d\]: never thought of sthg like that
]
;W[mk]WL[1512.047]
;B[cl]BL[2821.248]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: It's plausible for white. r10 is just one stone. And there is hardly a base there anyway. 
GoldenBear [1d\]: Moving to the center seems logical.
DerMeyer [1k\]: fj is playing against blacks position on the left
]
;W[or]WL[1439.34]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: theres always tthe aji at g9 
]
;B[qr]BL[2796.564]
;W[mq]WL[1411.933]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: okay give me cash
]
;B[cm]BL[2771.425]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: Now there are many urgent points in different areas of the board.  
GoldenBear [1d\]: All those furikawaris - I would assume that Monte Carlo might be quite good in evaluating those.
GoIngo [29k?\]: as long as there ae no multiple semeais ...
]
;W[rm]WL[1267.888]
;B[qk]BL[2738.062]
;W[rk]WL[1256.281]
;B[gd]BL[2711.663]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: That's the drawback, GoIngo.
GoIngo [29k?\]: se is fantastically happy for black here
GoldenBear [1d\]: No, please, just Crazy Stone's assessment :-)
GoIngo [29k?\]: 53 % after g16
]
;W[ec]WL[1077.001]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: won?
GolfWang [?\]: e4
]
;B[ep]BL[2680.776]C[K5 [5k?\]: b5?
GoldenBear [1d\]: E4 was hardly big. It was definitely not urgent, I think.
GolfWang [?\]: ...
leo2011liu [2d\]: n17
K5 [5k?\]: What is best way to handle UR?
GoldenBear [1d\]: UR?
K5 [5k?\]: UR corner
GoldenBear [1d\]: Ah :-)
leo2011liu [2d\]: b did 3 moves for 15 spaces
GoldenBear [1d\]: I have no idea about the upper right corner.
GoldenBear [1d\]: FJ is probably thinking about just that right now
GoldenBear [1d\]: My suggestion: Invade and die :-)
K5 [5k?\]: B center looming though, perhaps n16
]
;W[bo]WL[854.007]
;B[bn]BL[2655.515]
;W[bp]WL[837.499]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: FJ was thinking 5 minutes and comes up with b5? I am astonished.
]
;B[li]BL[2626.257]C[K5 [5k?\]: Hmmm, I was thinking b5 and then tenuki
leo2011liu [2d\]: bad b5 move
K5 [5k?\]: Why bad? 
GoIngo [29k?\]: crazy brother is at 60 % for black now
]
;W[pc]WL[796.868]C[GolfWang [?\]: haha none of you even see the later importamce of b5
K5 [5k?\]: b5 B6 is good swap imho
]
;B[oc]BL[2600.678]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: I do not say b5 is bad. I am too weak to understand it properly. So GolfWang may be correct...
]
;W[ob]WL[766.342]
;B[qc]BL[2570.783]C[Badduck [5d?\]: c6 was quite big
]
;W[pb]WL[755.113]C[Badduck [5d?\]: ops c7
leo2011liu [2d\]: it is not urgent and too small
]
;B[nc]BL[2538.102]
;W[qd]WL[704.834]C[heureux [2k\]: woohoo
heureux [2k\]: zen is back
]
;B[qb]BL[2505.709]C[heureux [2k\]: is this zen real or faked?
GoIngo [29k?\]: the treu parallel Zen
GoIngo [29k?\]: on 64 cores
GoldenBear [1d\]: I can smell the smoke... The board is burning :-)
GoIngo [29k?\]: or the bot burning?
]
;W[rd]WL[638.61]C[gonmf [-\]: zen is playing too fastttt
GoldenBear [1d\]: I like burning bots, too. That is my load testing self :-)
]
;B[nb]BL[2480.107]
;W[pe]WL[635.106]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: ;-)
]
;B[od]BL[2454.736]
;W[rb]WL[632.404]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: FJ is settling his group cleverly.
]
;B[oa]BL[2421.941]
;W[rc]WL[628.935]
;B[pa]BL[2397.372]
;W[qf]WL[596.293]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: What does CS think now?
martin97 [-\]: hm b good here
]
;B[of]BL[2365.672]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: 58 % for Black, expecting q13
GoldenBear [1d\]: Thanks
]
;W[gb]WL[492.361]C[leo2011liu [2d\]: W is behind
GolfWang [?\]: l9
]
;B[qg]BL[2335.964]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: fj on byoyomi home run
GoldenBear [1d\]: My halluzinated center Moyo is turning into reality.
]
;W[rf]WL[448.732]
;B[mp]BL[2302.072]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: we talked about it already at move 5 :-)
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes hard to imagine h4 to be a slack move
]
;W[lq]WL[439.151]
;B[kn]BL[2265.994]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: but i guess you should play h5 there
leo2011liu [2d\]: f14
Badduck [5d?\]: k6?
GoldenBear [1d\]: L6 is either brilliant or a complete waste.
GoldenBear [1d\]: On my playing level: Waste.
jlm [1k\]: E5 aji looks helpful
martin97 [-\]: l6 is strong
GoldenBear [1d\]: Or it is intended as a time burning tesuji :-)
JoeSecchi [3k\]: uh..... black needs to waste time?
leo2011liu [2d\]: time will also be enemy for w
]
;W[jn]WL[298.229]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: No. Black burns white's time.
JoeSecchi [3k\]: ah
leo2011liu [2d\]: L5 may be a good move to burn time for W
GoIngo [29k?\]: k6 - unexpected for crazy brother
]
;B[jm]BL[2241.281]C[Badduck [5d?\]: e6
fluidistic [4k\]: is zen here because there's a tournament soon?
GoIngo [29k?\]: no it is a match for itself
Dobby [1k?\]: tomorow
leo2011liu [2d\]: W missed E6
fluidistic [4k\]: ok thanks
GoldenBear [1d\]: This IS the tournament :-)
GoIngo [29k?\]: tomorrow is other event
]
;W[en]WL[255.507]C[corsair [3d\]: why did the bot play L6?
GoldenBear [1d\]: codecentric go challenge 2015
fluidistic [4k\]: yeah so zen will be unplugged after the tournament
GoldenBear [1d\]: see go.codecentric.de
leo2011liu [2d\]: k5
]
;B[nm]BL[2216.124]C[Badduck [5d?\]: wow
GoIngo [29k?\]: risky for bot vs human
GoldenBear [1d\]: No we'll see if the time burning tesujis were worth their money...
]
;W[oo]WL[219.759]
;B[nn]BL[2191.861]C[leo2011liu [2d\]: O3
]
;W[no]WL[211.17]C[leo2011liu [2d\]: m7
]
;B[mm]BL[2159.202]C[theolddan [2d\]: zen wants to cut off n9?
ofbusy [-\]: i think so
]
;W[op]WL[169.771]C[fh63 [2k\]: to enlarge the centre
]
;B[mo]BL[2134.719]
;W[pq]WL[158.396]C[Badduck [5d?\]: b lost imho
FreddyWong [4d?\]: This is fun
]
;B[qq]BL[2109.756]C[corsair [3d\]: L6 looks like losing move
leo2011liu [2d\]: what is imho?
myopian [4k\]: not h, that's for sure!
martin97 [-\]: l6 was strong i think but o7 not
GoIngo [29k?\]: in my humbky opinion
goodminton [-\]: old egyptian priest
GoIngo [29k?\]: humbly
Badduck [5d?\]: l6 weak no?
martin97 [-\]: w should s4
]
;W[rp]WL[79.966]C[fh63 [2k\]: does it kill reliably?
GoldenBear [1d\]: well, any comments from CS?
leo2011liu [2d\]: b is okay if right corner alive
martin97 [-\]: it doesnt kill but it gets p3 sente
]
;B[nq]BL[2077.292]
;W[nr]WL[72.07]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: cs down to 56 % for black
martin97 [-\]: o2?
]
;B[qp]BL[2050.21]C[Badduck [5d?\]: 56 :-)
]
;W[ro]WL[34.661]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: after p3 only still 51 %
]
;B[oq]BL[2024.596]
;W[pr]WL[30.482]
;B[rn]BL[2000.651]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: according to cs fj should have played p3
]
;W[sn]WL[6.275]
;B[pl]BL[1975.437]C[theolddan [2d\]: b gets sente cut in exchange for corner
theolddan [2d\]: and w has to take
theolddan [2d\]: but is this enough?
]
;W[rq]WL[40]OW[5]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: well, white is in byyomi now
]
;B[rr]BL[1941.054]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: One more difficult fight could mean trouble for fj
]
;W[sr]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[ee]BL[1916.325]C[leo2011liu [2d\]: c6 for B
]
;W[jo]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[de]BL[1885.124]
;W[ce]WL[40]OW[5]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: white win
]
;B[fc]BL[1858.58]
;W[fb]WL[40]OW[5]C[Badduck [5d?\]: 4 sure
]
;B[cf]BL[1834.008]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: well bots can have nasty tricks up their sleeves
]
;W[be]WL[40]OW[5]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: but the position is ok for white
GoIngo [29k?\]: crazy brother still optimistic for B
]
;B[bf]BL[1809.809]
;W[im]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[jl]BL[1784.526]C[bluetable [-\]: captain is fun
]
;W[ed]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[bg]BL[1750.296]
;W[hd]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[he]BL[1722.062]C[Badduck [5d?\]: f15
]
;W[id]WL[40]OW[5]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: 51 % for B now
]
;B[ie]BL[1696.404]
;W[jc]WL[40]OW[5]C[myopian [4k\]: 4. On what hardware will Zen run during the challenge?  HK: I’ll use a 4 pc cluster consisting of      a dual 12-core Xeon E5-2690 v3@2.6 GHz, 32 GB RAM,     a dual 10-core Xeon E5-2690 v2@3 GHz, 32 GB RAM,     a dual 6-core Xeon X5680@3.5 GHz, 8 GB RAM and     an 8-core Core i7 5960X@3 GHz, 16 GB RAM.  The computers are connected via a GbE LAN – 64 cores in total.
leo2011liu [2d\]: l17
]
;B[kc]BL[1670.279]C[mooooo [3k\]: to me its looks like w already won even if b gets all the center
]
;W[ib]WL[40]OW[5]C[leo2011liu [2d\]: l18
]
;B[jb]BL[1636.293]
;W[ic]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[rj]BL[1605.267]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: cswans h6 all the time
]
;W[rl]WL[40]OW[5]C[DerMeyer [1k\]: funny
mooooo [3k\]: wow 29k how u do that?
YZ1509 [4d\]: it's kinda big
]
;B[hn]BL[1570.126]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: beatin random go from time to tiime ...
]
;W[cn]WL[40]OW[5]C[mooooo [3k\]: :)
]
;B[cd]BL[1538.936]
;W[bd]WL[40]OW[5]C[goodminton [-\]: boo
GoPostal [2d\]: w l16 works
GoPostal [2d\]: sort of
]
;B[cc]BL[1510.849]
;W[bc]WL[40]OW[5]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: and f15 is aji too
mohel [3d\]: b is working on that
]
;B[fd]BL[1484.77]C[K5 [5k?\]: Nah, B gets F16 in sente
GoldenBear [1d\]: Black is just eliminating this aji
]
;W[cb]WL[40]OW[5]C[theolddan [2d\]: next s11 and w will cut at l16
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes that's why black started at c16
Kotonoha [3d\]: Is black a pro?
YZ1509 [4d\]: no not yet
ofbusy [-\]: ...
]
;B[kb]BL[1460.737]C[Badduck [5d?\]: w missed a bit upper side?
GoIngo [29k?\]: black is top bot
Kotonoha [3d\]: usually pro play much faster than an amateur
theolddan [2d\]: go is his only task
]
;W[ek]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[sj]BL[1435.583]C[theolddan [2d\]: s11 was bigger than l18 imho
]
;W[lo]WL[40]OW[5]C[K5 [5k?\]: p7?
Badduck [5d?\]: l16 bigger than b16 for me
GoldenBear [1d\]: Black is still making quiet moves. The bot doesn't seem to be in panic mode. 
YZ1509 [4d\]: l18 was at least 14 points
]
;B[ln]BL[1410.494]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: cs 55 % for B
]
;W[lp]WL[40]OW[5]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: what is this event?
GoldenBear [1d\]: That's the reason for the calmness.
PinotNoir [1k\]: why this Zen19S oni like 4d?
]
;B[mn]BL[1385.12]
;W[po]WL[40]OW[5]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: it used to be 5d or 6d
GoldenBear [1d\]: Event: codecentric go challenge 2015. See go.codecentric.de
]
;B[dl]BL[1359.85]
;W[el]WL[40]OW[5]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: because it don't play much and some sandbagger use low rank accounts to destroy Zen's rating
]
;B[bl]BL[1329.188]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah we all know there are some fierce 3d's out there on kgs
]
;W[fj]WL[40]OW[5]C[theolddan [2d\]: almost 4d you mean?
]
;B[gk]BL[1304.011]C[Badduck [5d?\]: w c10
PinotNoir [1k\]: bot is always targeted
YZ1509 [4d\]: nah some 3d might hold 5d accounts too
GoIngo [29k?\]: cs at 56 %
theolddan [2d\]: ah depending on mood
YZ1509 [4d\]: w b11 will pose black the problem
theolddan [2d\]: i see
]
;W[pf]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[am]BL[1279.021]C[myopian [4k\]: w seems to like empty triangles
]
;W[oe]WL[40]OW[5]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: YZ1509, your hair look messy 
]
;B[ne]BL[1253.89]C[martin97 [-\]: pretty close?
]
;W[og]WL[40]OW[5]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: i think should have taken a6
]
;B[nf]BL[1228.88]
;W[pg]WL[40]OW[5]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: are you that person in the picture?
theolddan [2d\]: se in b favour
]
;B[ng]BL[1201.468]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: You look coolest among the aged uncles I have seen 
GoIngo [29k?\]: cs  61 % for B
]
;W[om]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[nl]BL[1177.544]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: hmm
]
;W[fn]WL[40]OW[5]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: b still winning?
PinotNoir [1k\]: center look big
YZ1509 [4d\]: b got lucky
YZ1509 [4d\]: white a6 was sente
PinotNoir [1k\]: this is not casino game...
PinotNoir [1k\]: why lucky?
]
;B[gn]BL[1146.111]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: why you don't agree bot play better than a 4d could do 
GoIngo [29k?\]: black seems to think so
mohel [3d\]: 2 5-3 in the beginning was clowny
mohel [3d\]: *w's 5-3
myopian [4k\]: how many ko threats in the bottom right corner?
]
;W[bi]WL[40]OW[5]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: bots don't play better, they are less likely to make oversights
Kotonoha [3d\]: that is a great ability too 
]
;B[bh]BL[1120.967]C[bitzi [-\]: so you play better?
YZ1509 [4d\]: imagine this b11 with white taken at a6
theolddan [2d\]: but thats better
PinotNoir [1k\]: a win is a win
Kotonoha [3d\]: yeah YZ should fight Zen , hira is too easy for you though it look Hira win more lol 
]
;W[cj]WL[40]OW[4]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: sure humans can make misclicks which affect ranking, bots can't do that
PinotNoir [1k\]: no excuse...
]
;B[dj]BL[1096.261]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: u win if u r stronger...
]
;W[ck]WL[40]OW[4]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: if i find the right composure to win yeah
Kotonoha [3d\]: there is very few chances to happen but I seen few times bots forgot to fill the stones in chinese rule and lose by 0.5 
]
;B[bj]BL[1072.32]C[leo2011liu [2d\]: b won!
YZ1509 [4d\]: but mostly i am leisurely clicking away
]
;W[ci]WL[40]OW[4]C[bitzi [-\]: so you are saying, if you were playing better, you could win
YZ1509 [4d\]: now you see why a6 was so important
]
;B[dh]BL[1039.931]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: it is a win, even if u win by filling dame in chinese rules
mohel [3d\]: w's yose is lacking
PinotNoir [1k\]: but if u lost... dun cook up excuses
GoldenBear [1d\]: What doesCS say now?
]
;W[oh]WL[40]OW[4]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: he is typical kind of people who think their openning are nice and bots use brute power to crush them not by real strength :P
PinotNoir [1k\]: brute power is oso power :)
]
;B[nh]BL[1015.965]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: 52 % for B only
Antilopa [1d\]: you think bots use brute force in opening?
ftk: in your face
]
;W[rh]WL[40]OW[4]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: as i said, a win is a win... no matter wat or how it takes
Kotonoha [3d\]: I think amateur need to train ''Brute'' power well before plan to play nice opening like pros do 
leo2011liu [2d\]: r11
]
;B[rg]BL[990.896]C[goodminton [-\]: ooh
]
;W[sg]WL[40]OW[4]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: T12
GoIngo [29k?\]: 57 %
mohel [3d\]: B going for .5 win?
Kotonoha [3d\]: quite Antilopa:P
leo2011liu [2d\]: s11
]
;B[sh]BL[961.996]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: R11?
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes white might have expected to much here when he played q14
Antilopa [1d\]: :(
Kotonoha [3d\]: Antilopa , Zen play many ood moves in center like make the moyo look already occupy 1/4 of the board by just 1 moves so often :D
]
;W[si]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[ri]BL[936.827]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: zen got some superior reading to most players on earth
]
;W[pi]WL[40]OW[4]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: many our poor KGSians just get crushed when invade it and Zen always have great kill in every such kind of games with 5d- 
theolddan [2d\]: se says untouchable 4pts
PinotNoir [1k\]: oops
]
;B[sh]BL[904.277]
;W[ph]WL[40]OW[4]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: b still alive
PinotNoir [1k\]: lol
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes brute readingforce of zen is pretty good, you have to top alert against it
Kotonoha [3d\]: indeed very happy alive 
Kotonoha [3d\]: there is no point for b even connect 
]
;B[gc]BL[872.031]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: w just fail in aim of have some benefit in yose
Kotonoha [3d\]: look even a loss
PinotNoir [1k\]: agree tat zen tend to play funny moves in the center
PinotNoir [1k\]: but it's reading power when come to killing...
]
;W[fe]WL[40]OW[4]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: is astonishing
goodminton [-\]: t14 sente
Kotonoha [3d\]: that is just the most high effeicient move for bots as they think they could handle the moyo 
]
;B[ge]BL[846.81]
;W[sf]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[qi]BL[821.6]
;W[pj]WL[40]OW[4]C[Antilopa [1d\]: "funny moves"?
]
;B[oj]BL[797.68]
;W[ff]WL[40]OW[4]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: only funny to 8d + 
Kotonoha [3d\]: I don't feel 7d handle well with Zen 
Antilopa [1d\]: sometimes progress is funny :)
]
;B[ef]BL[773.166]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: lol e14 
PinotNoir [1k\]: why not E13
PinotNoir [1k\]: trying to confuse bot?
Kotonoha [3d\]: because bots love ugly powerful shapes
ftk: lib
PinotNoir [1k\]: more ko threats this way
PinotNoir [1k\]: not really good
ftk: lib!!!!!!
DATEALIVE [?\]: Aya gets 1.3d jump by using DCNN...
manriev [3k\]: f13
DATEALIVE [?\]: does hideki consider using it?
GoldenBear [1d\]: I start to believe that Zen might just win this game...
Kotonoha [3d\]: there could only be 0.5 ko I guess :P
Kotonoha [3d\]: not a matter at all 
]
;W[ia]WL[40]OW[2]C[fluidistic [4k\]: DATEALIVE: Hideki doesn't code Zen's "brain",  only the SMP (multi core) part
GoIngo [29k?\]: cs  57 5
myopian [4k\]: e14 reduces w's libs so cut at k15 less dangerous?
GoIngo [29k?\]: 5
]
;B[ko]BL[749.457]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: SE say w win
Antilopa [1d\]: ugly? so you would not play en empty triangle to save a dragon because its ugly?
PinotNoir [1k\]: trust SE :)
]
;W[gm]WL[40]OW[2]C[mohel [3d\]: dcnn makes bots play worse
fluidistic [4k\]: ZenAuthor aka Yamato, has coded Zen's "brain"
Kotonoha [3d\]: I think that is too insult to a bot fluid:P they are not stupid :D
]
;B[hm]BL[725.707]C[DATEALIVE [?\]: oh i see...
]
;W[kp]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[ai]BL[693.618]C[myopian [4k\]: the definition of stupidity is thinking you are intelligent
GoldenBear [1d\]: You can read a little about about Zen in this interview with Hideki Kato: https://blog.codecentric.de/en/2015/10/codecentric-go-challenge-2015/
Kotonoha [3d\]: actually I guess bots play center is like 7d while 5d-people in KGS don't have power in handle center like Bots could
]
;W[ao]WL[40]OW[2]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: zen shd play wif Takemiya Masaki
K5 [5k?\]: Wondering why that is, I suppose the answer might be "joseki"
]
;B[ja]BL[669.178]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes that's true, bots can play whole board , while humans have knowledge on joseki
mohel [3d\]: looks like B + 2.5
Kotonoha [3d\]: it is like Bot could make 7 pts in center and human could have 0 pt in center or even get attacked as bot like Zen reading in center fighting is really amazing
]
;W[hb]WL[40]OW[2]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: SE say w win 1.5
K5 [5k?\]: i.e. Humans think corners are easy to get points in because we can piggy back off huge learning of our forebears telling us locally best moves
]
;B[sk]BL[644.318]
;W[an]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[sl]BL[619.545]
;W[qs]WL[40]OW[2]
;B[sm]BL[594.481]
;W[rs]WL[40]OW[2]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: oops
PinotNoir [1k\]: b win 0.5?
YZ1509 [4d\]: no
]
;B[bm]BL[569.76]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: CS  &/ 5 FOR b
GoIngo [29k?\]: cs  67 % for B
mohel [3d\]: s19
Kotonoha [3d\]: Nice YZ1509 
Kotonoha [3d\]: already clone the game and use the tool to end the game?
PinotNoir [1k\]: A14 or S19 now?
GoIngo [29k?\]: likely b will win by 0.5
GoldenBear [1d\]: You should remove your Caps-Lock key, GoIngo :-)
YZ1509 [4d\]: black win 1.5 or 2.5
theolddan [2d\]: bots always win by 0.5
Kotonoha [3d\]: why is that or 
GoIngo [29k?\]: yes, but where to place it?
]
;W[af]WL[40]OW[1]C[martin97 [-\]: s19
GoldenBear [1d\]: Send it to Hideki as a token for this fabulous win!
]
;B[ag]BL[545.174]C[GoIngo [29k?\]: ;-)
]
;W[ae]WL[40]OW[1]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: look enough mode :D
Antilopa [1d\]: k15 first no?
]
;B[ra]BL[520.638]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: b win?
PinotNoir [1k\]: poor fj
]
;W[je]WL[40]OW[1]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: this game is pretty long lol 
Kotonoha [3d\]: why is he poor PN:p
Kotonoha [3d\]: lose a bit is not playing bad
PinotNoir [1k\]: something here?
GoldenBear [1d\]: Is there some danger? I don't think so, but I cannot read it through...
]
;B[kd]BL[496.376]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: hey PN
Kotonoha [3d\]: is KGS new crushed?
YZ1509 [4d\]: there is no danger as h17 liberty is there
Kotonoha [3d\]: KGS news *
]
;W[hc]WL[40]OW[1]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: seems long time no updates
leo2011liu [2d\]: f14
]
;B[jf]BL[471.753]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: no news is good news
leo2011liu [2d\]: game over b won
]
;W[sb]WL[40]OW[1]C[theolddan [2d\]: b played save
PinotNoir [1k\]: E13 something
PinotNoir [1k\]: so K14 is needed
]
;B[on]BL[447.156]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: good news is good news bad news is bad news
]
;W[sa]WL[40]OW[1]C[Kotonoha [3d\]: no news mean the world is become boring 
PinotNoir [1k\]: fj used up all his time
]
;B[qa]BL[422.635]C[TURBO: seems zen overcome bots weakness in endgame
]
;W[ql]WL[40]OW[1]C[PinotNoir [1k\]: b win 2.5
GoIngo [29k?\]: it seems so - cs had some more problems ...
PinotNoir [1k\]: sad for fj
Kotonoha [3d\]: when they are not ahead much, they don't play silly in yose
]
;B[ii]BL[386.406]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes q14>a6
PinotNoir [1k\]: now 1.5
TURBO: J11 bot move
theolddan [2d\]: very save playing bot
kingstone [5k?\]: tengen!
theolddan [2d\]: needs only 0.5
Kotonoha [3d\]: lol lol
]
;W[]WL[40]OW[1]
;B[]BL[386.362]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ab][bb][db][eb][ac][cc][dc][sc][ad][cd][sd][qe][re][se][em][dn][qn][rn][co][do][qo][so][ap][jp][pp][qp][sp][aq][bq][cq][dq][gq][hq][iq][jq][kq][qq][sq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][gr][hr][ir][jr][kr][lr][mr][qr][rr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][ss]TB[ka][la][ma][na][lb][mb][ob][pb][lc][mc][pc][ld][md][nd][fe][je][ke][le][me][df][ff][gf][hf][if][kf][lf][mf][cg][dg][eg][fg][gg][hg][ig][jg][kg][lg][mg][ah][fh][gh][hh][ih][jh][kh][lh][mh][rh][ei][fi][gi][hi][ji][ki][mi][ni][si][aj][fj][gj][hj][ij][jj][kj][lj][mj][ak][hk][ik][jk][kk][lk][mk][nk][al][il][kl][ll][ml][im][km][lm]C[GoldenBear [1d\]: With J11 Zen failed the turing test :-)
fj [6d\]: thx
gghideki [2k?\]: Thanks!
Kotonoha [3d\]: so Zen is [6d\] :P
TURBO: impressive!
gghideki [2k?\]: So tough game
GoldenBear [1d\]: Congratulations to Team Zen!
Kotonoha [3d\]: YZ1509 will never agree though but congrats GG
PinotNoir [1k\]: too bad, this game is free
YZ1509 [4d\]: fj what did you think while playing q14?
myopian [4k\]: or passed it, as it demosnstrates he knew what he was doing, GB
gghideki [2k?\]: thank you all
Kotonoha [3d\]: PN, this don't stop the bright future of Bot go :P
Kotonoha [3d\]: yeah GG !!!!!
TURBO: most of amature can't beat zen already
gghideki [2k?\]: ah, kotonoha
mohel [3d\]: it seems e3 lost the match
fj [6d\]: hmm
Kotonoha [3d\]: Thank GG !!! Your Son is really strong !!
fj [6d\]: I thought game was good for me
mohel [3d\]: it showed
GoldenBear [1d\]: FJ: Well, this is what you wanted to avoid...
YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah i had that impression too
fj [6d\]: but messed it up in endgame
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes i think q14 should have been a6
Xylol [4k\]: YZ, how big is a6 and how big is q14?
YZ1509 [4d\]: as a6 made b11 a killer
Kotonoha [3d\]: GG you want to crush fj tonight ? :D Zen19S : reserve for fj 
gghideki [2k?\]: E4 was big
Kotonoha [3d\]: Bot is shouting for the 2nd Round lol 
martin97 [-\]: can still win 3-1 :)
GoldenBear [1d\]: Second round will be played in two weeks, October 17th, same time!
GoIngo [29k?\]: round 2 in 14 days from now
gghideki [2k?\]: Tommorow, Zen will play against pros (unofficial games)
Kotonoha [3d\]: wow
Kotonoha [3d\]: When ?Just the time like now? 
Xylol [4k\]: gghideki, some player from goratings.org?
gghideki [2k?\]: At a meeting, devlopers and pros
Kotonoha [3d\]: gg , could you chnage Zen's game info to Reserve for skillup :P 
GoldenBear [1d\]: The homepage for this fj-Zen duel is go.codecentric.de. You will find the game, schedules and so on there.
GoIngo [29k?\]: conggrats hideki - and good luck for tomorrow!
gghideki [2k?\]: Next Weekend, there will be Dachs_Go_Challenge_program
GoIngo [29k?\]: in Budapest
oldsan [5d\]: uumu
GoldenBear [1d\]: Humanity is in sorrow, but GoIngo is jubilating :-)
GoIngo [29k?\]: why not - we have a long was to go
oldsan [5d\]: real 6d
myopian [4k\]: humanity made Zen, so it shoudn't be too sorrowful
myopian [4k\]: wait til son of Zen comes along
fj [6d\]: well... lesson to learn: never let loose
YZ1509 [4d\]: i am pretty amazed by the size of my brain looking at those big clothinglockers
gghideki [2k?\]: See you next weekend, all.  Bye
GoIngo [29k?\]: cu
fj [6d\]: bye
GoIngo [29k?\]: bye
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