(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2700]
PW[fuzz2015]PB[Zen19S]DT[2015-08-02]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19S [-\]: GTP Engine for Zen19S (black): Zen version 10.4d13
]RE[B+9.50]
;B[pd]BL[2689.139]
;W[dp]WL[2698.156]C[gghideki [2k?\]: gg
]
;B[dd]BL[2670.609]
;W[pp]WL[2694.743]
;B[jd]BL[2653.775]
;W[dj]WL[2690.854]
;B[pj]BL[2636.733]
;W[ql]WL[2685.047]
;B[ol]BL[2621.773]
;W[qn]WL[2679.031]
;B[jp]BL[2601.52]
;W[nc]WL[2673.077]
;B[oc]BL[2584.884]
;W[nd]WL[2671.047]
;B[pf]BL[2566.552]
;W[ld]WL[2668.601]
;B[kc]BL[2549.617]
;W[mg]WL[2630.472]
;B[kf]BL[2529.945]
;W[qc]WL[2563.869]
;B[ob]BL[2514.685]
;W[qe]WL[2551.935]
;B[pe]BL[2499.375]
;W[qf]WL[2550.332]C[gghideki [2k?\]: http://oase.nutn.edu.tw/FUZZIEEE2015/schedule_day1.htm 
]
;B[qd]BL[2479.539]
;W[rd]WL[2548.655]
;B[qg]BL[2465.386]
;W[rg]WL[2545.577]
;B[rc]BL[2448.64]
;W[re]WL[2542.25]
;B[lj]BL[2432.073]
;W[qb]WL[2511.296]
;B[og]BL[2409.588]
;W[cf]WL[2502.77]
;B[df]BL[2393.202]C[DATEALIVE [?\]: wow
]
;W[dg]WL[2489.428]
;B[ef]BL[2377.934]
;W[cd]WL[2481.99]
;B[ce]BL[2357.198]
;W[be]WL[2478.692]
;B[de]BL[2341.845]
;W[bg]WL[2447.996]
;B[cc]BL[2325.226]
;W[bd]WL[2446.213]
;B[eg]BL[2307.888]
;W[lp]WL[2432.613]
;B[fq]BL[2286.038]
;W[er]WL[2420.174]
;B[dh]BL[2261.315]
;W[cg]WL[2414.137]
;B[fj]BL[2239.329]
;W[dc]WL[2354.537]
;B[ec]BL[2221.077]
;W[db]WL[2353.092]
;B[eb]BL[2203.927]
;W[cb]WL[2350.794]
;B[fn]BL[2178.589]
;W[fl]WL[2336.451]
;B[dn]BL[2155.808]
;W[dl]WL[2324.387]
;B[cm]BL[2131.047]
;W[cl]WL[2307.125]
;B[gm]BL[2103.636]
;W[gl]WL[2305.12]
;B[ep]BL[2079.685]C[NightShift [6d\]: is this game 1?
]
;W[co]WL[2258.422]
;B[dq]BL[2059.098]C[dohduhdah [2d\]: think so
]
;W[cq]WL[2249.601]C[gghideki [2k?\]: yes
]
;B[do]BL[2041.38]
;W[cp]WL[2247.711]
;B[dr]BL[2024.182]
;W[cr]WL[2243.196]
;B[ij]BL[2003.173]
;W[qh]WL[2187.38]
;B[ph]BL[1984.26]
;W[oq]WL[2152.106]C[DATEALIVE [?\]: no any improvement in the last year?
]
;B[qi]BL[1959.716]C[gghideki [2k?\]: no
]
;W[pg]WL[2144.201]
;B[mf]BL[1937.631]C[franks [10k\]: what does that mean?
franks [10k\]: @DATEALIVE
DATEALIVE [?\]: i have been expecting 10.5 since last September...:(
franks [10k\]: oh version
NightShift [6d\]: zen seems quite confident in this game
]
;W[fr]WL[2071.972]
;B[eq]BL[1920.901]C[NightShift [6d\]: awesome tomorrow a 5p will give zen 4H
]
;W[gr]WL[2036.483]
;B[hq]BL[1904.531]
;W[gq]WL[2027.261]
;B[gp]BL[1887.901]
;W[hr]WL[2024.722]
;B[iq]BL[1871.465]
;W[ir]WL[2012.165]
;B[kq]BL[1854.222]
;W[jr]WL[1992.901]
;B[lq]BL[1838.374]
;W[mp]WL[1988.198]
;B[es]BL[1822.648]C[NightShift [6d\]: seems a little dangerous for w
NightShift [6d\]: lower left corner could get messy
]
;W[kr]WL[1965.428]C[HYamashita [2k?\]: W is Wen-Chih Chen,  amateur 6D?
]
;B[lr]BL[1800.954]C[NightShift [6d\]: should be, hideki said this is game 1 on his link
HYamashita [2k?\]: I see, thx
]
;W[nr]WL[1934.709]C[gghideki [2k?\]: http://oase.nutn.edu.tw/FUZZIEEE2015/schedule_day1.htm 
NightShift [6d\]: l1
]
;B[bm]BL[1777.094]C[NightShift [6d\]: this good too, zen playing well
]
;W[ks]WL[1902.064]C[HYamashita [2k?\]: If one player get 2 wins, is there 3rd game?
]
;B[di]BL[1761.03]
;W[cj]WL[1886.222]C[gghideki [2k?\]: Maybe, there will be
HYamashita [2k?\]: I see, thx.
]
;B[ko]BL[1740.296]C[gghideki [2k?\]: Ah, sorry, I'll check it
]
;W[il]WL[1871.987]C[NightShift [6d\]: zen playing safe or just can't read corner
]
;B[nf]BL[1717.974]C[gghideki [2k?\]: 12:00-13:30	Three cases: If ZEN wins the first two matches, then Zen (White) vs. Wen-Chih Chen (6D, Black, Komi 0.5) (on KGS) If Wen-Chih Chen wins the first two matches, then Wen-Chih Chen (6D, White) vs. Zen (Black, Komi 0.5) (on KGS) Otherwise, Wen-Chih Chen (6D, White) vs. Zen (Black, Komi 6.5) (on KGS) (on KGS) 
]
;W[gj]WL[1826.605]C[gghideki [2k?\]: safe
]
;B[gi]BL[1703.691]C[happou [3k\]: So komi will be changed. thx.
]
;W[jj]WL[1797.045]
;B[ji]BL[1683.719]
;W[ea]WL[1785.746]
;B[fa]BL[1669.072]
;W[da]WL[1781.96]
;B[gb]BL[1650.724]C[NightShift [6d\]: rough count says b+15
]
;W[cs]WL[1737.641]
;B[ik]BL[1629.92]
;W[hm]WL[1727.4]
;B[hn]BL[1616.413]
;W[fi]WL[1719.371]
;B[gk]BL[1599.497]
;W[fm]WL[1709.428]
;B[gn]BL[1585.753]
;W[ej]WL[1707.914]
;B[hj]BL[1572.664]C[NightShift [6d\]: how is zen at ko these days?
]
;W[ei]WL[1684.697]
;B[fh]BL[1559.334]
;W[ds]WL[1676.788]
;B[em]BL[1545.031]C[gghideki [2k?\]: as usual (nothing changed recently)
]
;W[el]WL[1664.32]
;B[cn]BL[1532.749]C[Muttley [3k\]: Is white logging in from the conference, gghideki?
]
;W[eh]WL[1642.552]
;B[ml]BL[1519.089]C[Muttley [3k\]: I'll have to go to one of those conferences some time
]
;W[kl]WL[1630.157]C[gghideki [2k?\]: I believe so
]
;B[im]BL[1502.513]C[Muttley [3k\]: right, thanks
gghideki [2k?\]: from the venue
]
;W[hl]WL[1624.555]C[Muttley [3k\]: good conference, well established
]
;B[jk]BL[1486.884]C[gghideki [2k?\]: good
NightShift [6d\]: safe win for zen now
]
;W[jl]WL[1595.133]
;B[pm]BL[1470.446]
;W[rk]WL[1590.898]
;B[qm]BL[1456.615]
;W[rm]WL[1588.769]C[gghideki [2k?\]: Usually, Zen wins against amateures at the first attempt because Zen's style is very different from human's
]
;B[pn]BL[1442.459]
;W[po]WL[1583.564]C[Muttley [3k\]: If you let me (or another admin know) the next game is starting, we can put it at the top of the active games and announce it, if you like
NightShift [6d\]: mm second game will be interesting
]
;B[pc]BL[1427.377]
;W[rb]WL[1578.69]C[comateb12d: hard game
]
;B[bo]BL[1415.408]
;W[bp]WL[1576.618]
;B[nn]BL[1403.83]C[gghideki [2k?\]: Muttley, thanks very much
Muttley [3k\]: if you could drop a line to admin@gokgs.com that would be helpful just saying there is a 3 game match today with an ama Chinese 6d also :)
]
;W[in]WL[1561.189]C[Muttley [3k\]: I'll log it as an event :)
Muttley [3k\]: you're welcome
]
;B[io]BL[1390.736]C[gghideki [2k?\]: Ok, I'll mail to admin
Muttley [3k\]: thx
]
;W[ri]WL[1537.496]
;B[rj]BL[1373.197]C[NightShift [6d\]: hard game for w ever since r17
]
;W[sj]WL[1532.601]
;B[qj]BL[1359.082]
;W[jn]WL[1524.212]
;B[bk]BL[1342.955]
;W[bl]WL[1509.819]
;B[al]BL[1331.178]
;W[pa]WL[1497.605]
;B[oa]BL[1319.819]
;W[bj]WL[1492.583]
;B[oo]BL[1304.269]C[NightShift [6d\]: can zen handle japanese rules?
]
;W[op]WL[1486.42]
;B[np]BL[1292.944]
;W[nq]WL[1470.721]
;B[no]BL[1282.07]
;W[mq]WL[1461.262]
;B[km]BL[1267.234]
;W[kn]WL[1454.682]
;B[lm]BL[1256.463]C[NightShift [6d\]: l7 very bot style
]
;W[ln]WL[1448.245]
;B[ap]BL[1242.377]
;W[aq]WL[1440.162]
;B[ao]BL[1231.972]
;W[lk]WL[1414.366]
;B[mk]BL[1220.084]
;W[oh]WL[1395.9]
;B[pi]BL[1209.555]
;W[pk]WL[1384.908]C[NightShift [6d\]: zen says i've got plenty thank you very much
]
;B[ok]BL[1199.347]
;W[qk]WL[1383.002]
;B[oj]BL[1186.402]C[Muttley [3k\]: yeah, score est based on Japanese rules says the same
]
;W[qg]WL[1359.338]
;B[jm]BL[1174.248]
;W[mm]WL[1332.231]
;B[ll]BL[1164.177]
;W[mn]WL[1326.991]C[NightShift [6d\]: still close to 15
]
;B[kk]BL[1152.6]
;W[nm]WL[1325.593]C[comateb12d: b triked?
]
;B[pl]BL[1139.292]
;W[rn]WL[1315.79]C[Muttley [3k\]: hard to beat an Chinese 6d :)
]
;B[pb]BL[1124.554]C[Muttley [3k\]: a Chinese 6d :)
]
;W[qa]WL[1309.623]C[Muttley [3k\]: impressive
gogonuts [4d\]: looks like a start to finish victory for zen to me
]
;B[ms]BL[1109.457]C[NightShift [6d\]: some chinese 6d are much stronger than others, but beating any of them is a good job
]
;W[mo]WL[1301.18]
;B[on]BL[1099.878]
;W[kp]WL[1299.705]C[NightShift [6d\]: yep gogo
NightShift [6d\]: i agree
]
;B[jq]BL[1090.538]
;W[jo]WL[1298.323]C[gghideki [2k?\]: (not Chinese but Taiwanese)
]
;B[ns]BL[1079.423]C[gogonuts [4d\]: zen got the better fuseki, and w never recovered
]
;W[os]WL[1295.059]C[Muttley [3k\]: yes
]
;B[ls]BL[1067.282]
;W[ck]WL[1287.304]
;B[ak]BL[1058.411]C[Muttley [3k\]: despite what is generally said about bot style- "Don't try to learn from it, don't try to change your play to beat it", there's a lot to learn from here
]
;W[aj]WL[1282.46]C[NightShift [6d\]: i'm not actually sure how taiwan awards 6d
gogonuts [4d\]: I even detect a lack of respect in ws early play, but that was soon corrected :-)
]
;B[am]BL[1049.542]
;W[fk]WL[1281.398]C[NightShift [6d\]: in mainland china it's a hard rank to get
]
;B[gj]BL[1041.031]C[Muttley [3k\]: Ah, true
]
;W[nl]WL[1273.123]
;B[nk]BL[1032.19]
;W[dm]WL[1270.775]C[comateb12d: bot wins by 23
Muttley [3k\]: I forgot this is a Taiwan as opposed to mainland rank, 6d China is close to 1p strength
]
;B[en]BL[1023.461]C[gogonuts [4d\]: it's a cool rank and there are many people :-)
Muttley [3k\]: nonetheless, its still strong :))
]
;W[mr]WL[1260.263]C[gogonuts [4d\]: can't just let anybody have it :-)
]
;B[hp]BL[1011.539]
;W[hk]WL[1254.999]C[NightShift [6d\]: in mainland only have ~300 6d+
]
;B[gg]BL[998.522]C[Muttley [3k\]: Taiwan wins the WAGC at times also
]
;W[om]WL[1249.383]C[gogonuts [4d\]: close to p wouldnt make sense as even game ...
]
;B[lc]BL[990.579]
;W[]WL[1248.254]
;B[]BL[990.569]TW[aa][ba][ca][ra][sa][ab][bb][sb][ac][bc][cc][rc][sc][ad][sd][ae][se][af][bf][rf][sf][ag][sg][ah][bh][ch][dh][rh][sh][ai][bi][ci][di][si][dk][ek][sk][rl][sl][sm][sn][ko][lo][qo][ro][so][qp][rp][sp][bq][pq][qq][rq][sq][ar][br][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][as][bs][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ps][qs][rs][ss]TB[ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][fb][hb][ib][jb][kb][lb][mb][nb][fc][gc][hc][ic][jc][mc][nc][ed][fd][gd][hd][id][kd][ld][md][nd][od][ee][fe][ge][he][ie][je][ke][le][me][ne][oe][ff][gf][hf][if][jf][lf][of][fg][hg][ig][jg][kg][lg][mg][ng][gh][hh][ih][jh][kh][lh][mh][nh][oh][hi][ii][ki][li][mi][ni][oi][jj][kj][mj][nj][lk][an][bn][eo][fo][go][ho][fp][ip]C[Muttley [3k\]: nice win, gg
gghideki [2k?\]: thanks
gogonuts [4d\]: I see there are nice games tommorow too
Muttley [3k\]: thank you both
gghideki [2k?\]: agree
NightShift [6d\]: yeah the 5p will be cool
Muttley [3k\]: how long until the next game?
gogonuts [4d\]: what if zen crushes tommorow in game 1
Muttley [3k\]: its tomorrow, ok :)
gogonuts [4d\]: could thehandi be corrected to 3?
gghideki [2k?\]: I think 50 min
Muttley [3k\]: ah right
NightShift [6d\]: corrected to 3 would be cool
Muttley [3k\]: that's great, thanks, I'll br around
NightShift [6d\]: i wonder if pro would like it tho
gogonuts [4d\]: some pro has to be the first :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: no pro would be eager though ...
Muttley [3k\]: Now we understand why the account is "fuzz2015" :)
NightShift [6d\]: mm
gghideki [2k?\]: gogo, yes
gogonuts [4d\]: but its silly not to play 3 if zen proves unbeatable on 4
NightShift [6d\]: wait and see i guess :)
gghideki [2k?\]: agree; that step is very big
Muttley [3k\]: Didn't Cho Chikun play CS giving 3 stones and slaughter it?
Muttley [3k\]: I recall seeing that game on KGS not so long ago
gghideki [2k?\]: Cho won very easily
Muttley [3k\]: yeah
gogonuts [4d\]: well, cho chikun is a butcher :-)
Muttley [3k\]: lol
Muttley [3k\]: CS is not Zen, CS went very wrong at some point
gghideki [2k?\]: Pros get serious on 3 handi
Muttley [3k\]: ok, 50 minutes people :) let me know if the game is up before I event it :)
gghideki [2k?\]: Miori Shimosaka (femail 2p) beat Zen with 3 handi
Muttley [3k\]: thanks again gghideki :)
gogonuts [4d\]: it even sounds more serious to us
gghideki [2k?\]: np
gogonuts [4d\]: somehow four is friendly and three isnt
NightShift [6d\]: on 3 one corner will be even :)
NightShift [6d\]: on 4 whole game in handi :P
gogonuts [4d\]: right, if w loses, he got his own corner and still lost :-)
gghideki [2k?\]: Need some big step to improve correctness of simulations
gghideki [2k?\]: (mostly L&D on edges)
NightShift [6d\]: zen going agains alreay
gghideki [2k?\]: ?
NightShift [6d\]: it's playing
gghideki [2k?\]: really
NightShift [6d\]: yep
])