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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:12.022]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[AlphaGo]
PW[Lee Se Dol]
DT[2016-03-10]
PC[Four Seasons Hotel Seoul]
KM[7.5]
TM[7200]
RU[Chinese]
US[Wiggle that toe]
EV[Deep Mind Challenge Match]
GN[Lee Sedol (white), Alphago (black)]
WR[9p]
RO[2]
OT[3x60 byo-yomi]

C[Matrok [3k\]: good morning Séoul !
funhouse [2k\]: anyone have a link to game 2 Myngwan commentary \
channel?
bruh [4d\]: it should be up in an hour
bruh [4d\]: the AGA did a short stream an hour ago where they \
said Myungwahn's commentary will start an hour after the game \
starts
Tictactoe [-\]: Thank you all for joining, hope i can relay well \
this early morning.
rsun [-\]: alphago will play some variant of chinese opening
Tictactoe [-\]: shinfuseki revival?
bruh [4d\]: alphaGo will play tengen first
lmox: Andrew Jackson is a lovely commentator
lmox: enjoy him very much
bruh [4d\]: yeah, I thought Andrew and Kim Myungwahn were FAR \
better commentators than Michael and Chris
Tictactoe [-\]: i fully agree Andrew does a fabulous job, can \
you provide the link to him?
LongLost [7k\]: I have arrived, Robot Queen, to show fealty to \
your precious data feet.
LongLost [7k\]: Google has the cheesiest background music.
Codexus [7k?\]: Good morning!
Naphthalin [10k?\]: alphago composed that piece @Longlost
Anatoly [2d?\]: hi all
rsun [-\]: here it comes!!
Shana [?\]: michael wasnt that bad at commentating, he probably \
had a gun to his head to try and keep it simple
cxcv: :o)
rsun [-\]: aja looks so cool
LongLost [7k\]: Tengen!
Naphthalin [10k?\]: just imagine, what it must mean even for a \
strong amateur to sit there and play a serious match against \
lee sedol!
rsun [-\]: alpha will play (mini/micro) chinese opening
fluidistic [-\]: good to see yoou rsun
Codexus [7k?\]: Hoshi!
rsun [-\]: hi flu
rsun [-\]: next move will be 3-4 point
fluidistic [-\]: alphago's move?
LongLost [7k\]: Begin mute list of commentator on left.
bruh [4d\]: nice try rsun
bruh [4d\]: but it's the plain 4-4
rsun [-\]: I mean B's 3rd move
LongLost [7k\]: We are the coolest viewing party..
bruh [4d\]: san-ren-sei incoming
rsun [-\]: really
fluidistic [-\]: there are 2 moves already
fluidistic [-\]: 2 hoshis
LongLost [7k\]: What could it possible be thinking about.
fluidistic [-\]: p4 was the 1st move
rsun [-\]: I only see 2 moves on the board
fluidistic [-\]: on kgs I see 0 move played
rsun [-\]: see, 3-4 point
Shana [?\]: rsun makin it a reality]
CA[UTF-8];B[pd];W[dp]
C[fluidistic [-\]: who is making the relay?
rsun [-\]: TTT]
;B[cd]
C[fluidistic [-\]: time to drink coffee for him
bruh [4d\]: but not the mini/micro :)
rsun [-\]: yeah, I meant any kind of chinese opening
Shana [?\]: cuz regular chinese best chinese
fluidistic [-\]: 1st game se dol had black?
bruh [4d\]: yes
fluidistic [-\]: thx
zampa [-\]: will kim do commentary today aswell?
Codexus [7k?\]: I think Lee Sedol will win this one
crate [?\]: Lee get komi this time
Yumi [7d\]: i think lee is taking it a lot more seriously this \
time
Tictactoe [-\]: yes, having white is considered an advanatge these \
days due to the komi
rsun [-\]: alpha may kakari first
fluidistic [-\]: se dol trying mirror go]

;W[qp]
C[cdocdo [2k\]: haha
bruh [4d\]: hmm...well, I heard that in Chinese rules 7.5 komi, \
pros prefer White; but in regular 6.5 japanese rules, they are \
50-50 about it
Naphthalin [10k?\]: white manego!!
LongLost [7k\]: Redmond needs an adjust on that last stone..
feeldabern [4d\]: ^^ so bothering
fluidistic [-\]: after se dol loses 5 games in a row "dude did \
u know u could have won with mirror go? :)  "
Naphthalin [10k?\]: @bruh: that only makes a difference, if there \
is a seki with 1 eye vs 1 eye
rsun [-\]: oh no, they're doing the basics all over again
fanfan [3d\]: both are ahead
rsun [-\]: I know alpha so well
funhouse [2k\]: omg, please give us Kim commentary
crate [?\]: yes the stones were crooked as vertical Goban last \
night
Shana [?\]: no chinese tho
Codexus [7k?\]: P4 kakari
fluidistic [-\]: p4 was played
Tictactoe [-\]: Kim will start commenting in about an hour 
bruh [4d\]: that's not true Naph, dame points can affect ko fighting \
as well
rsun [-\]: chinese will come later
cxcv: mirror go
rsun [-\]: unless lee plays mirror]
;B[op]
C[fluidistic [-\]: gimme control pliz i'll put stones faster
LongLost [7k\]: Why.. why did he not fix r4.
Matrok [3k\]: mirror go... that would be fun !
fluidistic [-\]: p3 played
Falcon89 [5k\]: haha fluid, go away
crate [?\]: darn fix that stone you were just next to it
Naphthalin [10k?\]: bruh, but do these ko fights favor one player \
over the other?
bryamatt [12k\]: is the youtube DeepMind stream the only one right \
now? won't load for me :(
rsun [-\]: alpha may tenuki after hane
feeldabern [4d\]: that or into avalanche
Rephos [23k\]: p3
adfafdsfaf: p3
kadoban [?\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0 <-- \
with commentary or just the game ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8Ppdntupg
bruh [4d\]: it depends on the board Naph
cxcv: It seems Alpha played ko fights quite well 
Sachan [?\]: why not updating?
rsun [-\]: alpha is hooked up to my brain it seems
njs [1d\]: t1!]
;W[oq]
C[fluidistic [-\]: coz I'm not in control of the game @ Sachan]
;B[nq];W[pq]
C[bryamatt [12k\]: thanks kado
feeldabern [4d\]: b will tenuki probably ^^
Krithalith: Thanks kado
fluidistic [-\]: thanks kado
rsun [-\]: chinese opening is possible now
manta [3d\]: w is sedol?
gogonuts [4d\]: y
njs [1d\]: It says it manta
manta [3d\]: thx
danielhast [?\]: has this pattern gotten more popular lately? \
been seeing it a lot.
indogo [11k?\]: tenuki wow
Azal [2d\]: live steam of kim ?
manta [3d\]: not on mobile
njs [1d\]: Oh
bryamatt [12k\]: aga commentary starts an hour in again?
bruh [4d\]: kim's commentary will start an hour after the game
fluidistic [-\]: the pro said that alphago had played Q4 instead \
of O3 vs fan hui
Nam [-\]: hi how can i do it on first list kgs?
Tictactoe [-\]: Kim starts commenting in approx 50minutes perhaps \
with andrew
indogo [11k?\]: i think alpho play solid game and wont tenuki \
here
gogonuts [4d\]: for now deepmind on youtube
njs [1d\]: o4]

;B[cn]
C[cdocdo [2k\]: wow!]
;W[fq]
C[indogo [11k?\]: wow
tsukiatari [1d\]: n4
GoIngo [?\]: thx to tictactoe for transmitting !
cdocdo [2k\]: its like pro !
cxcv: not yet - ___ -
sprouts [1d\]: Which color is lsd
njs [1d\]: THANKS TICTACTOE for playing the GAME today and yesterday
rsun [-\]: really, alpha choose kobayashi over chinese?
tsukiatari [1d\]: n4 r6 j3
Lilou [1d\]: link where we see lee?
Parklane [7k?\]: yes thx tictactoe
gogonuts [4d\]: lee determined not to play funny
cdocdo [2k\]: thx tictactoe
Sachan [?\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
Krithalith: That unlisted stream is so nice
rsun [-\]: n4 is not alpha style
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Can somebody please tell Michael Redmond to \
fix his microphone
Prime [2k\]: holy crap 202 observers
hgjhgjgjgh: unlisted stream
hgjhgjgjgh: ?
twoody [3k\]: Redmond is taking like black has already won o.0
USSRMan [3d\]: yesterday was 800 viewers
cdocdo [2k\]: oh n4
feeldabern [4d\]: alpha showed in first game that she like super \
big framework
cxcv: alpha doesn't have a style indeed
GoIngo [?\]: on youtube livestream 97,000
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I bet AlphaGo could wear a microphone better \
than Michael Redmond with a few more years development
fluidistic [-\]: n4 wow
robsclone: yes @feeldabern
bruh [4d\]: this is textbook and old-fashioned opening
kdbaby14 [6k\]: N-4 is popular indeed
tsukiatari [1d\]: I knew this was going to appear
Krithalith: Unlisted stream was posted at move 5 by kado (second \
link). It has no commentary just the game]
;B[mp]
C[rsun [-\]: I'd like to see alpha doing sth special
feeldabern [4d\]: like tenuki here?
Sez [12k\]: is there any commentary stream?
rsun [-\]: I mean for the opening
Meloe [-\]: tenuki is not special for Lee
LordTushi [9k?\]: I'm amazed that alpha go only needs 2h to play \
a game
njs [1d\]: Lee needs to play carefully
Sachan [?\]: maybe they'll tell it to tengen if it wins this game \
for the next one 
aham [8k\]: E16
bruh [4d\]: O5 next
njs [1d\]: Otherwise he'll get absolutely, completely, entirely \
rekt.
USSRMan [3d\]: r6
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Sez watch here for Michael Redmond live commentary \
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
Long [?\]: alphago is SAI ; super artificial intelligence
Marathon [-\]: there's a commentary stream on youtube 
USSRMan [3d\]: i think lee will choose a very standard opening \
this game
njs [1d\]: q5?
saiiii1k: oh noes
aham [8k\]: C9
cxcv: bingo]
;W[qn]
C[bruh [4d\]: just r5 :(
bruh [4d\]: r6*
Rephos [23k\]: here it goes lagging again
njs [1d\]: lee is being careful
asdfg: is it AGA stream?
twoody [3k\]: Who is this new guy?
Tsuijin [1d?\]: God's father
aham [8k\]: trop lent r6
hgjhgjgjgh: is there an aga stream?
adfafdsfaf: programmer with google
USSRMan [3d\]: I wonder how alphago does in peaceful games
Prime [2k\]: aga stream isnt live yet
bryamatt [12k\]: aga stream in 45 min i think
hgjhgjgjgh: got it
Matrok [3k\]: next J3, black will stick to its database
kdbaby14 [6k\]: B can D-10?
cxcv: need some muse from Sai
rsun [-\]: yes!
twoody [3k\]: Thanks you left-hand-smashing-keyboard ;)
feeldabern [4d\]: HA
bruh [4d\]: oh, very interesting
rsun [-\]: alpha hears me
feeldabern [4d\]: alpha did do tenuki
isbhal [-\]: ahahhahahah
kadoban [?\]: I think if B is going to do D10, they don't do N4 \
first?
feeldabern [4d\]: normally, but n4 for r6 isn't such a bad exchange
rsun [-\]: google somehow hooked up alpha to me
JohnNothaf [23k\]: White is Lee right 
cxcv: J17 is weird-_-
bababobo [1d?\]: any one have any idea of total live audience \
for this even on all media ?
escudero [3k\]: j17
bruh [4d\]: K4 is almost a must now
covert: Black j17
Prime [2k\]: b plays j17
robsclone: 30k+  on the american youtube stream
Prime [2k\]: lol i love how all of us are like "J17!!!!!"
Falcon89 [5k\]: yes John
JohnNothaf [23k\]: Thank you 
covert: so it's a chinese deferred
bababobo [1d?\]: thanks
bruh [4d\]: sad that Chen Zude isn't alive to witness AlphaGo \
playing his opening
isbhal [-\]: h17 better 
oldguy [4d\]: who's taking b/w?
Tictactoe [-\]: it's j17 isn't it
Dom [6d\]: such a boring opening again
highhand [5k\]: I do not understand how come so much time spent \
on the obvious b J3 joseki move
kadoban [?\]: Black is alphago
feeldabern [4d\]: b is not playing j3
Tictactoe [-\]: hard to see the hoshi on the camera
feeldabern [4d\]: and j3 is not obvious
GoIngo [?\]: good choice by alpha-team
hgjhgjgjgh: dom again? yesterday was insane
gogonuts [4d\]: I'm glad it's boring
oldguy [4d\]: I am using mobile app client, cannot see the chat \
history :-(
USSRMan [3d\]: In fan vs alpha game 1, these peaceful territorial \
games favors alphago]
;B[ic]
C[Dom [6d\]: yea, sorry
Dom [6d\]: yesterday wasnt boring
Matrok [3k\]: oh? he plays something else than the GoGoD database. \
He never did in Fan Hui's game
Dom [6d\]: but ugly
Sachan [?\]: so for game 1 yesterday Michael Redmond seemed very \
surprised that lee sedol resigned when he did, saying that he \
thought there was still a chance for him to win. but with the \
AGA stream they predicted lee resigning like 30 mins before he \
did - sooooooo why was Micheal Redmond so wrong? Lots of his \
insights seemed to contradict what the guys on AGA were saying.
njs [1d\]: boring....?!
cxcv: what is obvious? what is right? What is wrong? All relative \
concepts to rank
gogonuts [4d\]: lee has to take it really seriously to win
Sez [12k\]: XiJinping2: thx
zxcvbnm [1d\]: Hm? I thought it wasn't allowed to be broadcasted \
here?
USSRMan [3d\]: alpha 5-0 sweep lee sedol
kdbaby14 [6k\]: Michael Redmond probably never play chinese rule \
before
GoIngo [?\]: fj said Lee can live with pressure
USSRMan [3d\]: Im sure he has played chinese rules lol
louou: well, redmond ha to multitask, answering questions like \
with go's history basic rules etc.
kdbaby14 [6k\]: he did said that he not familiar with Chinese \
scoring
njs [1d\]: Why is alphago not completing joseki haha
USSRMan [3d\]: it is almost always the same as japanese rules \
scoring, just easier to program
adancassan [13k?\]: Interesting talk with one of the developers \
at the DeepMind stream right now
kdbaby14 [6k\]: I dont think J-3 is efficient though
lxom: I would play l4
louou: it looks from these two games that AG is using time really \
well.
lxom: but that seems too slow
bruh [4d\]: i think K4 makes the tiger mouth look awkward
yoyoma [2d?\]: Sachan I don't think Redmond was surprised at the \
resign, he was just trying to follow some official procedure \
where some other official was supposed to declare the resignation
fanfan [3d\]: AlphaGo didn't completed the joseki to give us a \
chance to comment
canzsta: e16
feeldabern [4d\]: even if white plays a move where black would \
have played it, black can tenuki once again perhaps
Sachan [?\]: ah kk
yoyoma [2d?\]: But that process didn't go smoothly so he was left \
hanging
USSRMan [3d\]: k4
fluidistic [-\]: looks like a 2 or 3 handicap stones game to me
USSRMan [3d\]: if i were lee
fluidistic [-\]: b well ahead
cxcv: move on the left
crate [?\]: Alpha may play k10 first
Azal [2d\]: well... AG left 2 groups weak 
rsun [-\]: K4 is sedol style
jellyroll: w resign soon
USSRMan [3d\]: k10 is bad 
murky [?\]: pro thinks that B is behind by one stone now
bababobo [1d?\]: so w can make lots of territory at bottom while \
bot takes top
gogonuts [4d\]: thore is really great for public relations :-)
fluidistic [-\]: murky this means that b leads
crate [?\]: k10 will be played sooner or later
USSRMan [3d\]: pros dont understand this opening, it is like a \
chess bot inventing new openings
aham [8k\]: d10
murky [?\]: W leads
Azal [2d\]: murky... which pros?
gogonuts [4d\]: it's murky
murky [?\]: top Chinese pro's comment
murky [?\]: Chen Yaoye
murky [?\]: 9p\\
isbhal [-\]: ok bro cool bro
Azal [2d\]: is he streaming ?
Jsnake [?\]: Is Lee freaking out? 
gogonuts [4d\]: important move for w now
USSRMan [3d\]: redmond said n4 is heavy style of play
rsun [-\]: lee has to pincer
indogo [11k?\]: comentary is good on youtube :)
njs [1d\]: lee is like alphago stop sucking
USSRMan [3d\]: but alpha probably played this opening 1trillion \
times
fanfan [3d\]: against alphaGo, all moves are important]

;W[dj]
C[okiol [1k\]: that's basic idea, right, USSR?
shashwat [7k?\]: alpha's looking for a fight, it seems
feeldabern [4d\]: see, lee doesn't spend a move to attack either
manta [3d\]: lee will probably go to byoyomi today
Azal [2d\]: murky... pls keep commenting Yaoye's comments
hgjhgjgjgh: buckle up :)
okiol [1k\]: i mean, i would assume all dan players would "know" \
that consideration
rsun [-\]: looks like end of fuseki again
cxcv: yup..on the left
highhand [5k\]: if Lee play a bot move like h14 (instead of d10) \
would he lose quikly?
USSRMan [3d\]: n4 for r6 doesn't look that bad to me, AI probably \
thinks it is ok
aham [8k\]: hé hé 
gogonuts [4d\]: d10 very circumspect
aham [8k\]: j'ai dit d10
heather [1k\]: too far from c16 gogo?
LordTushi [9k?\]: d10 is interesting
aham [8k\]: c'est pour ça qu'il perd
Rankachan [6k\]: d10 is good ?
gogonuts [4d\]: lee is determined not to end up in the alphago \
grinder :-)
bruh [4d\]: i guess, if W plays K4, B tenuki and play D10 looks \
too good
atiyah [3d?\]: i'm guessing b will extend on the right
lxom: d10 feels right to me
njs [1d\]: tu es vraiment intelligent aham ;)
Tictactoe [-\]: Alphago plays under the uk-colours
fluidistic [-\]: q5 played]
;B[po]
C[fluidistic [-\]: what's that move?
gooooo [?\]: wow weird
Shana [?\]: lee sedol looked uncomfortable in that cam
danielhast [?\]: ...is this joseki?
escudero [3k\]: d10 maybe to prepare attack at l4?
covert: that looks... strange
glasszee [3k\]: ...
Anatoly [2d?\]: wow
LordTushi [9k?\]: q5?!
fluidistic [-\]: ko threat lost?
Anatoly [2d?\]: what?
Rankachan [6k\]: q5 is joseki ?
njs [1d\]: ?!
Prime [2k\]: LMAO 
USSRMan [3d\]: yup, inventing new fusekis
Sachan [?\]: wow
feeldabern [4d\]: q5 is a normal exchange but very early
Ephidel [1k\]: what?
Sachan [?\]: this is interesting~
njs [1d\]: Im expecting a new joseki revolution
feeldabern [4d\]: alphago really loves to make these exchanges
cxcv: L4/ K4,etc looks a bit concentrated
Sachan [?\]: alphago is so aggressive haha
glasszee [3k\]: b begins endgame
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: This is the start of the New Fuseki Era, people
Prime [2k\]: we should just let this bot come up with new fuseki \
for the future
Ephidel [1k\]: very computer move
Jumadan [?\]: tenuki now?
feeldabern [4d\]: w can't tenuki this
Tictactoe [-\]: q5 is a common follow-up, it's kind of kikashi \
in this pattern
Garp [11k\]: is there yet a god analsis of yesterday match? could \
leer won ?
feeldabern [4d\]: s7 or r7 for w are common
okiol [1k\]: ok, so let's see... in the fan hui games there were \
some criticism that alphago were making exchanges like these \
too early - let's see if lee can actually abuse that
LordTushi [9k?\]: Yeah, q5 is common. It's just very early
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Thanks, Tactictoe
USSRMan [3d\]: i agree, very computer-like move, humans dont like \
making these exchanges because it is not flexible
GoIngo [?\]: will we see moyo game by alha today?
Jumadan [?\]: why not feeldabern?
GoIngo [?\]: alpha
LongLost [7k\]: DeepMind explainer is ruining my romanticism of \
AlphaGo! Silence.
glasszee [3k\]: after D10, unlikely
escudero [3k\]: isn't this just forcing exchange? it removes some \
aji though
bert [?\]: q6 not good for w now?
feeldabern [4d\]: black push and cut is very severe
highhand [5k\]: b q5 interesting, attacking a strong group
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Isn't C6 in danger? Or does N4 make C6 okay?
feeldabern [4d\]: so w will answer in some way
buhaypa [3k\]: Is 7.5 komi usual? Seems like a huge burden
gooooo [?\]: I wanted to see Lees reaction to this move
zavion [2k\]: romanticism of alphago? u in love with skynet?
covert: lee connects
USSRMan [3d\]: c6 is 
kadoban [?\]: 7.5 is standard komi for chinese rules
USSRMan [3d\]: c6 is light
Tictactoe [-\]: extending to j3 is walking head on towards a solid \
f3 stone, and might invite m3 
Jumadan [?\]: is it big enough that early?
aab [?\]: Korean BadukTV stream and some brief English translations: \
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bATCEcRbBzE  https://twitter.com/askakorean
wolvie [?\]: Yeah, they cut away from his reaction in the stream \
:/
buhaypa [3k\]: Ah ok thanks
okiol [1k\]: USSR, the theory behind these "mistimed" and sometimes \
just bad exchanges based on how the board looked, was that alphago \
just didn't have understanding over the position enough, and \
just played common moves]
;W[qo]
C[kadoban [?\]: 6.5 komiisn't meaningful in chinese counting, so \
it's either 5.5 or 7.5
Jumadan [?\]: appearently itis
Jumadan [?\]: :D
Naphthalin [10k?\]: 6.5 is nearly the same as 5.5
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: USSRMan - C6 light  and now R4 solid
USSRMan [3d\]: sure
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I guess black will settle C6 and N4 right now \
with his turn
njs [1d\]: can't white play r7 instead of r5]
;B[cp];W[cq]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: thore too polite to correct michael :-)
rsun [-\]: alpha is sure doing some very special stuff this game
manta [3d\]: r7 leaves aji
USSRMan [3d\]: r7 is bad aji
lcc [4k\]: Lee spends more time than yesterday's
fluidistic [-\]: now what
feeldabern [4d\]: r7 doesn't keep as much pressure on o3
gogonuts [4d\]: and lee sedol isn't - he's really on his guard
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: You guys are really giving helpful kibitz, \
thank you
feeldabern [4d\]: but r7 is also possible
Long [?\]: alphago will still win though
USSRMan [3d\]: no problem chinese president
fluidistic [-\]: b3 played]

;B[bq]
C[aham [8k\]: c5
glasszee [3k\]: sabaki
lcc [4k\]: B3?
manta [3d\]: so b settles, what next?
Azal [2d\]: murky, some comments of the top pro :)?
rsun [-\]: alpha is very ajikeshi
gogonuts [4d\]: b3 is standard
Sigrosa [7k\]: is there more commentary aside from michael redmond?
goren22 [2k\]: j3 or k4 or something.  Itching to play that
rsun [-\]: but only by human standards
Tictactoe [-\]: apparently alphago likes to settle it's shape \
fastly
Sachan [?\]: aga will be on in like an hour
lxom: as W I would now d3 and then k3
Ilyo: There is commentary from Korean and Chinese pros.
USSRMan [3d\]: j3 probably overconcentrated
njs [1d\]: q14
USSRMan [3d\]: for white
Ilyo: Korean commentary can be found on baduktv.
Sigrosa [7k\]: okay, I heard kim did some yesterday
bruh [4d\]: so far I really like W's position
bababobo [1d?\]: I think W seems more comfortable in this game \
than last.
Sigrosa [7k\]: I only can understand english unfortuantely :)
manta [3d\]: right side doesnt feel interesting for w
Tictactoe [-\]: feel free to post any suitable link to commentaries \
of this game
Jumadan [?\]: c5
Long [?\]: chinese stream link?
gogonuts [4d\]: a little dangerous to extrapolate from other bots, \
but generally bots don't like their own groups weak
Tictactoe [-\]: this demo is just for sgf-storage
Jumadan [?\]: played]
;W[co]
C[Sachan [?\]: c5 
edlee [2k\]: TTT, which stream are you following for this relay \
? :)
aham [8k\]: e17
goren22 [2k\]: I don;t like w.  Won't b have sente after this, \
and the next move will be critical?
Tictactoe [-\]: i take directly from google
edlee [2k\]: is it different from the DeepMind youtube stream \
?
aham [8k\]: hé hé j'ai mis deux secondes pour trouver c5
Jumadan [?\]: b4
Jumadan [?\]: played
LongLost [7k\]: Black needs to exploit the gap between c16 and \
c15.
ranyee [3k\]: is thre milan comments translation?
okiol [1k\]: if b was planning on playing c4 and giving w sente, \
then perhaps the q5 exchange made sense?
aham [8k\]: b4
Tictactoe [-\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
Tictactoe [-\]: is my source
cxcv: http://www.douyutv.com/533882  <--Chinese stream link with \
Gu Li's commentary
AnthonyC [3k\]: is this pretty standard for low chinese as b?
aham [8k\]: ou d5
Ilyo: Thanks cxcv]
;B[bp]
C[Jumadan [?\]: b4-b5 played]
;W[bo]
C[rsun [-\]: b can only cut
njs [1d\]: aham les bots pensent d'autres moves avec le temps....
Rankachan [6k\]: this is joseki ?
rsun [-\]: yes
aham [8k\]: b5 est précippité
LongLost [7k\]: Wow -- Chinese channel is so busy. (epileptic \
fit)
gogonuts [4d\]: b5 going for thickness
aham [8k\]: d5]
;B[do]
;W[bn]
C[Ilyo: ikr LongShot?
gogonuts [4d\]: a good idea against a bot - the bot will be envious \
:-)
aham [8k\]: d6
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Isn't it a bad idea to engage a computer program \
in complex fighting? Or is it good strategy?
feeldabern [4d\]: there is no complex fighting yet
rsun [-\]: you missed game 1?
bruh [4d\]: is Gu Li in an aquarium? :)
aham [8k\]: c2
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: rsun - Yes
okiol [1k\]: alphago seems really strong in fighting
USSRMan [3d\]: bots are actually really strong at complex fighting \
games
njs [1d\]: aham, ce n'est pas tres dificile de choisir les moves \
qui sont vraiment aleatoires
Mars [10k?\]: D3
USSRMan [3d\]: they have mastered the game 9x9
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: rsun - I want to read the write-up for the \
match but this game is going too quickly even though it's fuseki \
still :)
aham [8k\]: si c'est difficile
gogonuts [4d\]: lee still has only a very vague idea of what alphago \
can do, so just playing his own game is a good idea]
;B[dq];W[ep]
C[aham [8k\]: mais facile de trouver les coups traditionnels
jockey: no variations?
Prime [2k\]: holy crap 168,000 people watching the chinese stream
Matrok [3k\]: rha... those journalists ! Can't they switch their \
mobile phones off ?!
Uberdude [2d\]: this looks troublesome for white if black plays \
c7 etc as d10 is high not low
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: USSRMan - But time limit might give practiced \
human player an edge over a tree-reading computer. No idea to \
what extent, though, if that's even true
njs [1d\]: mais tu as mis trois moves
Jumadan [?\]: apart from that fight i think Xi is right a moyo \
style play would work better i guess
njs [1d\]: dans le chat
pony16 [4k\]: i don't think the human should play differently \
because he is playing a computer
Mars [10k?\]: d2
USSRMan [3d\]: lee favors playing complicated games vs other pros \
because he reads better than them, but alphago is a different \
animal]
;B[dr]
C[bruh [4d\]: now, with K4, W's position looks so good]
;W[cm]
C[Uberdude [2d\]: k4 would be disaster
feeldabern [4d\]: but it's black's turn
Uberdude [2d\]: black would c7
Sigrosa [7k\]: how do they choose who plays black or white?
bruh [4d\]: oh wait, sorry, forgot that W needs C7
Azal [2d\]: mmmm
DemonStyle [3d?\]: They did nigiri in game 1
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: pony16 - True, but it is a game and the point \
is to beat your opponent. And at this point it would only be \
a delaying action... the computer would come back stronger sooner \
rather than later in a few month or a year
DemonStyle [3d?\]: I think they alternate after that
njs [1d\]: tough to say who is wiwnning
Marathon [-\]: they had nigiri yesterday, after that, they alternate \
colors
rsun [-\]: b j3 is honte
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: USSRMan - Ah
Tictactoe [-\]: first game was a nigiri, so this game is in reverse \
colours
julbla [4k\]: link of the chinese stream?
LongLost [7k\]: Redmon correct when he totally ignores other commentator.
fluidistic [-\]: r10
aham [8k\]: q14
Ilyo: http://www.douyutv.com/533882 chinese stream
gogonuts [4d\]: k4 even more honte :-)
bruh [4d\]: is J3 appropriate in this position? feel like K3 is \
more appropriate
adfafdsfaf: Longlost you are right
Kolie34A: It's just the beginning of the game,still close
gogonuts [4d\]: played k4
rsun [-\]: now they hooked alpha to gogo's brain
gogonuts [4d\]: :-)
USSRMan [3d\]: k4 over j3?]

;B[jp]
C[feeldabern [4d\]: k4 good choice
Azal [2d\]: wow Gu Li commenting
Sigrosa [7k\]: did alphago choose "odd" or "even" for nigiri? \
;)
USSRMan [3d\]: stylish
covert: odd - yesterday
covert: this is reversed colors from yesterday's game
bruh [4d\]: c14 now?
Sigrosa [7k\]: that's funny it chose haha
DemonStyle [3d?\]: I think Aja Huang chose on AlphaGo's behalf. \
:)
Ilyo: c14 seems early
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Sigrosa - It chose an 7.5 komi + sqrt(-1)
Uberdude [2d\]: i like how the chinese stream tells you the weight \
of the female host
Ilyo: I feel drawn to lower center
fluidistic [-\]: lol
LongLost [7k\]: I only watch >64kg hosts.
Uberdude [2d\]: getting the important details in
bruh [4d\]: the things that matter
TaoTao: jammed ?
gogonuts [4d\]: i must say, since d10 alpha has been smart at \
fixing things
LordTushi [9k?\]: The white text on the chinese stream is annoying \
^^'
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I only weigh 7kg? according to KGS
Relativity [8k\]: you can disable it lord
Uberdude [2d\]: you can remove the texct
danielhast [?\]: time for R14, or not yet?
Uberdude [2d\]: click thingy below video
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Actually I am more like 2-3k but super out \
of practice
Mars [10k?\]: so many people are hosting this game.
LordTushi [9k?\]: Oh! Thanks a lot
Uberdude [2d\]: orange with 4 stripes
cxcv: K4 seems a nice move of balance
LordTushi [9k?\]: That's 10x more watchable
rsun [-\]: e16 honte
danielhast [?\]: ah, guess W has more potential on left
bruh [4d\]: c13 instead
zampa [-\]: do anyone know if kim will review teh game today?]
;W[cg]
C[rsun [-\]: c13 then e16 honte
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: E16 for white, rsun?
TheHeliox [?\]: c7
goren22 [2k\]: j5 
rsun [-\]: no, I mean e16 is honte now
Azal [2d\]: c13 feels slooow
buhaypa [3k\]: Kim is supposed to, yes
JohnNothaf [23k\]: Yes in about 20 minutes 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: This game is moving so quickly, 4 hours total \
is going so fast
zampa [-\]: Awesome! :D
liptos [3k\]: hmm why c13 over say r14?
Uberdude [2d\]: white o17 next?
Ephidel [1k\]: if white doesn't c13...
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Maybe they are saving their thinking time for \
later
Ephidel [1k\]: then b plays c13?
Uberdude [2d\]: r14 is boring
USSRMan [3d\]: d14
buhaypa [3k\]: Kim's commentary yesterday was great
Uberdude [2d\]: r6 makes that area small
manta [3d\]: right side not interesting
kadoban [?\]: R6 is low and the right is a bit uninteresting.
rsun [-\]: r14 is wrong direction by human standards
Tictactoe [-\]: white rather be at o17 seeing the strength of \
r6
goren22 [2k\]: e16 is like a must now no?
Mars [10k?\]: e16
bruh [4d\]: e16 is standard]
;B[ed]
C[bryamatt [12k\]: yeah e16 already played
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: You know, I wish the Google Guy would come \
out and talk about how the computer manages its thinking time \
on each move... when does it use lots of thinking time, and when \
does it think for a short amount of time, etc.
LongLost [7k\]: I like Black. White not strong or courageous enough \
to fight back.
highhand [5k\]: w K14 instead of c13 playable ?
danielhast [?\]: now R14?
buhaypa [3k\]: W is plenty of both
Tictactoe [-\]: rsun predicts alphago 100% accurate, fear rsun \
^^
lxom: rsun terrifying 
rsun [-\]: lol
manta [3d\]: i prefer w here
bruh [4d\]: r14 last big point
cxcv: rsun can be the next candidate
rsun [-\]: gogo got k4 right
USSRMan [3d\]: it is actually alphago predicting rsun moves
hgjhgjgjgh: i prefer b, we should do a strawpoll :P
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I prefer w also
Azal [2d\]: what is Gu Li saying xD?
Kolie34A: r14 one of the choices
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: w has entire board to choose from now
LordTushi [9k?\]: is lee sedol really playing againt alphago? \
Maybe it's just rsun playing on that computer...
rsun [-\]: w may have to play o17
Ephidel [1k\]: why not 3-3 at r17?
hondra [1d?\]: I'd be more interested to know if they plan to \
publish the program, sell it as a product, ... or in general \
future plans.
robsclone: it's cautious, but I actually have liked white's opening
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: E4 is kind of in an unsettled place though
goren22 [2k\]: k16?
blau3: as long as W got C13 "in sente", he didn't mind postponing \
R14 for a moment
jellyroll: r14?
TaoTao: 17o
rsun [-\]: r14 is bad direction
Ephidel [1k\]: r17??
rsun [-\]: lee suddenly realizes he doesn't have a good move now
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: LordTushi - What if they are the same thing..........
cxcv: R6 group is low
LongLost [7k\]: AlphaGo "skims" with Monte Carlo simulation 10,000x \
fold.
Ephidel [1k\]: just get more corner points
Kolie34A: It seems quite hard to find a great move now
kaliya [-\]: I would like to be W here
TaoTao: 17o is better
Lilou [1d\]: pub for LoL, just seen a LOL and a faker on chinses \
stream
TaoTao: o17
manta [3d\]: o17 here?
Tictactoe [-\]: sedol blinks his eyes alot, he is studying the \
now
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Lee Sedol thinking a lot this move
Lilou [1d\]: K16?
Sachan [?\]: so outside of against itself... when was the last \
time alphago lost? Is she gonna be sad when/if she loses against \
Lee Sedol?! Let's make sure to support AlphaGo no matter the \
outcome!
Ephidel [1k\]: lol
okiol [1k\]: what's he waiting for, just play r14 already
Ephidel [1k\]: not much to gain on the right side
LordTushi [9k?\]: #realcomputershavefeelings?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Hey guys, what is going on with Lee Changho \
lately? Is he still playing pro or is Lee Sedol top player now?
robsclone: I wonder if AlphaGo has any concept of the oppenent's \
"intention" or if each move is made independently
LongLost [7k\]: Wow -- is that real-time translation coming from \
my Google Translate mechanism -- or douyutv?
rsun [-\]: o16 happy for b
Prime [2k\]: #realcomputershavefeelings
twoody [3k\]: R14 is enough?
Firien [?\]: ke jie is maybe the best, but lee is a legend]
;W[qf]
C[bruh [4d\]: well, AlphaGo did lose 2 games out of 5 against Fan \
Hui, in fast game settings
cxcv: Lee looks grimmer than yesterday
cxcv: :o
fluidistic [-\]: bruh that's not the same alphago
Long [?\]: ohhhh
hondra [1d?\]: Sedol played the bad direction move, eh?
TaoTao: oh 
Mars [10k?\]: maybe o17?
Ephidel [1k\]: maybe the plan is 3-3 directly after b O16
bruh [4d\]: yes, the October version
danielhast [?\]: wow, my intuition wasn't completely off
fluidistic [-\]: october version is light years behind this one
trippin [2k\]: bruh, alphago was weaker in october
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago has a trillion games more than when it \
played against fan hui
USSRMan [3d\]: experience is everything
Kolie34A: o16?
goren22 [2k\]: r15 like for sure?
bruh [4d\]: the question was whether alphaGo lost, just answering \
:).
LordTushi [9k?\]: How many games did alphago had when playing \
Fan Hui?
trippin [2k\]: ah
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Q14
Marathon [-\]: a trillion? 
bruh [4d\]: otherwise we may as well just say it's only played \
1 game
GoIngo [?\]: crazystone gives balanced evaluatin, but does not \
like r14 much
Kolie34A: alphago can learn 
rsun [-\]: cool]
;B[qe]
C[Codexus [7k?\]: I can't decide if I'd rather play b or w in this \
position
danielhast [?\]: um
blau3: r15 to make W overconcentrated?
Ephidel [1k\]: whoa
Jumadan [?\]: kick?
Rankachan [6k\]: lee played the bad direction move gg
highhand [5k\]: if w o17 instead would have been under severe \
attack?
blau3: too late...
glasszee [3k\]: kick good
Long [?\]: wow
Sachan [?\]: aggressive~
Ahamay [7d?\]: R15 strong, Lee must have expected this
Long [?\]: simply wow
Sachan [?\]: I love alphago
Sachan [?\]: :3
kdbaby14 [6k\]: W does not look too good
Kolie34A: Hard to invade for white?
Kashomon [2k?\]: Seems balanced so far]

;W[pf]
C[cxcv: K4 is shining 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Is AlphaGo tweeting the announcers? Bad ettiquette \
while playing
LongLost [7k\]: Let's tweet to YouTube!
gogonuts [4d\]: w had no alternative to q14
goren22 [2k\]: now 016 or o17?
Sachan [?\]: wait we can tweet? who do we tweet to?
highhand [5k\]: next w p7, prepare to attack o3 group
miai [1d\]: o16 only move
Trevoke [?\]: To the AGA twitter account
liptos [3k\]: this has been a much more peaceful game than last
Jumadan [?\]: doesnt a move around q10 look great for w?
trippin [2k\]: someone tweet to ask about alphago time control
blacksea: @theaga
trippin [2k\]: how does it know how long to think
LongLost [7k\]: Tweet to commentator: When 9d speaking, permit \
him to finish speaking before you speak.
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: trippin - Yes please]
;B[nd]
C[trippin [2k\]: hah
Krithalith: Q10?
Azal [2d\]: yes q10for sure
danielhast [?\]: why would B make R15-Q14 exchange?
hondra [1d?\]: q11 it is
blau3: korigatachi]
;W[pi]
C[feeldabern [4d\]: for that sweet sweet corner money
manta [3d\]: so w doesnt go 33 immediately
Lilou [1d\]: fat corner
fluidistic [-\]: w trying to get some territory
ookwrd [11k\]: anyone got the link to the AGA stream?
Jumadan [?\]: why not q10?
hondra [1d?\]: w trying to invite an invasion
Rankachan [6k\]: 2 space jump ?
Mars [10k?\]: why q11?
goren22 [2k\]: nah, w now plays p7 and goes for a massive fight \
when b invades
adfafdsfaf: 2 space high, though.
JohnNothaf [23k\]: Just search aga youtube chanel on youtube 
danielhast [?\]: ookwrd, AGA stream not up yet
Kolie34A: hm
okiol [1k\]: i'm guessing so that s14 s13 s15 isn't sente
rsun [-\]: b's next move will sparkle
goren22 [2k\]: now b q10
danielhast [?\]: will be here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
JohnNothaf [23k\]: It will show up once online 
kgsjdh [2k\]: game seems so boring, like no real fighting spirit, \
anyone else think so too, just like me?
manta [3d\]: q10 is open on two sides
okiol [1k\]: and r6 already thick, so
LordTushi [9k?\]: I feel like a bomb's about to drop on white
rsun [-\]: b's next move will be close to genius, if not kami \
no itte
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: danielhast - I'm watching Michael Redmond's \
commentary here live https://www.youtube.com/embed/l-GsfyVCBu0
cxcv: n14 fancy move yeah
ookwrd [11k\]: yea I'm doing the same
rsun [-\]: see what I said?!
Sachan [?\]: nah dong agree at all @kgsjdh - alphago has the most \
fighting spirit
Eternal6k [6k?\]: P7
LongLost [7k\]: So fascinating anticipating the AlphaGo fuseki.
Ephidel [1k\]: whoaaa
Ephidel [1k\]: p10??]
;B[oj]
C[hondra [1d?\]: one hand of hair
fluidistic [-\]: zen genes
LongLost [7k\]: oooh...
Ephidel [1k\]: what a move
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: P10 yessssssssss 
cxcv: ooh
LordTushi [9k?\]: p10?!
glasszee [3k\]: this is somehting
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Game getting interesting
ookwrd [11k\]: but I'd like a commentary a bit less for beginners
blacksea: Also on the Youtube Gaming network: 
kaliya [-\]: p10?
bruh [4d\]: this is indeed, kami no itte
kdbaby14 [6k\]: P10
Anatoly [2d?\]: attack from the sky!
kdbaby14 [6k\]: damn
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: P10 is awesome
goren22 [2k\]: nice
Ephidel [1k\]: very zen
Kolie34A: oh wow
glasszee [3k\]: we takemiya here
Kolie34A: center
Ephidel [1k\]: this is totally Zen style
kdbaby14 [6k\]: P10 is nice move
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Hahahahaha Michael Redmond did a second-take \
on P10
feeldabern [4d\]: alpha's strong move :D
goren22 [2k\]: but w will do the same at k16 soon
USSRMan [3d\]: this is a teaching game lol
GoIngo [?\]: how would shirov say: fire on board
manta [3d\]: 5th line shoulder hit
Sachan [?\]: haha
Krithalith: Lee left lol
Long [?\]: wow
gogonuts [4d\]: bot revolution :-)
Long [?\]: simply wow
fanweiqi [8d\]: wow
blau3: now W p11 and the "boring" game will turn hot
Sachan [?\]: that doubletake from Michael Redmond when he placed \
that move
Rankachan [6k\]:  5th line shoulder hit  gg
Azal [2d\]: need to fight back now
anton007 [-\]: very strange move
blacksea: https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
Ahamay [7d?\]: resign :p
cxcv: hands in the air
Dead [1k\]: Alpha likes to push on 5th line ;)
highhand [5k\]: why q11 instead of something likw w q10, now w \
seem to be under attack
rsun [-\]: all textbooks need to be rewritten
tiki [2k\]: O-5
gogonuts [4d\]: it makes sense when you see it
goren22 [2k\]: combined with a coming s15 b will seriously reduce \
w on the right
aham [8k\]: q10
helioxxx: prochain coup dans 30 minutes gg
gogonuts [4d\]: because b had no other sentes
isbhal [-\]: its how to take lead when chuban begin 
fanweiqi [8d\]: I learned something
Shana [?\]: ragequit
LordTushi [9k?\]: I feel like P10 puts black ahead
gogonuts [4d\]: human blind spot
njs [1d\]: Guys
isbhal [-\]: play 5 line before ur opponent 
fluidistic [-\]: this kind of moves are 10d and up
Slarty [1d\]: q11 leaves one gap instead of two
njs [1d\]: Why won't white play q10 instead of q11
Prime [2k\]: omg the online video they posted on youtube of the \
first game has 1.3 million views
Jumadan [?\]: p 6-7-8 maybe?
Sachan [?\]: hahahha
Sachan [?\]: lee left
Tictactoe [-\]: Lee went out for a walk after seeing this move
Lilou [1d\]: x9 lee for leave the game plz surrend 20
Sigrosa [7k\]: lee left the room lol
Skippy [9k\]: I love how that feels so much, I like black's five \
bottom stones now so much better
gogonuts [4d\]: lee sedol puking on the toilet
LongLost [7k\]: The move is a declaration of alpha-go-male supremacy.
hondra [1d?\]: Lee escaped
Marathon [-\]: is that an ear-reddening move?
Long [?\]: wow
cxcv: Gu Li is laughing
Long [?\]: simply wow
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Can we confirm reports that Lee Sedol just \
ran out of the playing room crying with tears in his eyes cursing \
"Those frackin toasters"
kdbaby14 [6k\]: this move heart every way
heather [1k\]: this is fascinating strategy by bot
covert: lilou: report black intentional feeding
cata [2k\]: obviously alphago is already winning by 3.5 so it \
doesn't matter that he made this move and lost 2 points
kdbaby14 [6k\]: this move hurts
aham [8k\]: Q7
fanweiqi [8d\]: Your teachers will reprimand you for playing this \
way
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Yes, P10 is awesome. Let's see how this turns \
out :D
Lilou [1d\]: ^^
fanweiqi [8d\]: that is when you say to them
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha Fanweiqi
bitzi [-\]: gu li thought this was misclick :D
robsclone: wow
Lilou [1d\]: stop feed top plz.. gg wp
asd: *cries in the toilet
fanweiqi [8d\]: I play here because i feel like it
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha Lilou
rsun [-\]: lee went to the toilet to discuss with park junghwan
Rankachan [6k\]: P10 was misclick
manta [3d\]: what else here but q10?try to fight?
Lilou [1d\]: i need a gank jungler !
helioxxx: report teemo bot pls
Azal [2d\]: Lee looking his joseki dictionary...
Sigrosa [7k\]: computers don't click ;)
InMedio [10k?\]: lol lilou
TaoTao: maybe Alpha has different idea...
ZhugeLiang [2k\]: it seems Alpha will win all 5 games
okiol [1k\]: kasparov tried to introduce a new symbol for moves \
like that in chess notation, fanweiqi :)
Sweetrip [9d\]: p10 looks like genius
USSRMan [3d\]: Lee resigned
fanweiqi [8d\]: so now we know this is not horrible
covert: lilou: black is clearly Heimerdinger
Lilou [1d\]: plz stop these combo jhin teemo traps !
gogonuts [4d\]: this move is a real psychological blow, imo
murky [?\]: Chen Yaoye is shocked by this B move
LordTushi [9k?\]: P10 is either genius or a huge blunder
ranyee [3k\]: isnt it strange?
Uberdude [2d\]: gu li seems a fun guy
fanweiqi [8d\]: therefore, we can figure out something
LordTushi [9k?\]: There's no inbetween
Rankachan [6k\]: misclick by alpha go i think
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Did Lee escape
InMedio [10k?\]: master yi op plz nerf
fanweiqi [8d\]: alphago is making us stronger
liptos [3k\]: hey fanweuiqi, do you approve of Q11?
Uberdude [2d\]: even though i dont speak chinese
Sweetrip [9d\]: it makes white so overconcentrated
Azal [2d\]: murky... shock in which sense?? too bad or too strong?
fanweiqi [8d\]: absolutely
isbhal [-\]: can we have link for chinese and korean commentary \
?
Sweetrip [9d\]: its one of those moves
goren22 [2k\]: has to be q9 no?
Sachan [?\]: motto from alphago: always be greedy
bruh [4d\]: lol players DansGame
Sweetrip [9d\]: we may consider for a split second
murky [?\]: he thinks this make no sense
robsclone: it's pretty balanced, support-wise with teh stones \
on either side of the board
liptos [3k\]: ok, thanks
KobeGote [6k?\]: Sweeptrip is totally in love with AlphaBot after \
these two games :)
GoIngo [?\]: crazy stone did not expect p10 at all
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Sweetrip - What's your initial one-second gut \
reaction to P10?
Jumadan [?\]: i'm telling you its p7
ZhugeLiang [2k\]: face sweating move
Sweetrip [9d\]: and dismiss it immediately not because we think \
its bad
goren22 [2k\]: I will bet money on w q9
Azal [2d\]: who the hell is crazystone?
escudero [3k\]: a go seigen move
helioxxx: lee's  back
robsclone: wp7 Jumadan?
Sweetrip [9d\]: but all our previous instruction tells us its \
bad
Jumadan [?\]: yep
Sweetrip [9d\]: i like it
cxcv: P10 is s historic move
JohnNothaf [23k\]: Why is p10 weird? Sorry, just watching on here
GoIngo [?\]: crazy stone french bot
rsun [-\]: I didn't know alpha would play here, but I called it \
was going to play a kami no itte
gogonuts [4d\]: yes, p10 is the dark side of the moon for humans
covert: bruh: MrDestructoid (but seriously; this looks so weird, \
I havne't played for years but I was 3k when I did play actively)
Sweetrip [9d\]: black normally plays p7, but that will not be \
sente
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Guys do you think Lee Sedol has his own Samsung-operated \
Go AI that he is currently consulting with???
helioxxx: plus qu'une demi heure vant le prochain coup
Sweetrip [9d\]: and at this point, black certainly wants to build \
center influence
playerx [1k?\]: is there a stream on aga chanell too like yesterday \
? someone has the link ?, somehow I cant find it
Uberdude [2d\]: is sweetrip Andy Liu?
jellyroll: Lee is back... after two shots of whiskey.
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Ohhhhhhhhh that "I don't believe it" head shake \
from Lee Sedol just now
Sweetrip [9d\]: and top center is more valuable than bottom center
kdbaby14 [6k\]: probably aiming for C-6 and D-5 support?
Jumadan [?\]: p10 would me so slow for w i guess
Sachan [?\]: building that moyo~
fanweiqi [8d\]: I do not understand 
okiol [1k\]: John, p10 is weird to see, because it's inviting \
w to take points on the fourth line with q10 etc
AnthonyC [3k\]: p10 is on the 5th line forcing w to make territory
njs [1d\]: Andy Liu is cloudnotes maybe also sweetrip
Jumadan [?\]: i mean now
murky [?\]: Lee Sodel went to smoke
Rukas33 [11k\]: Holy cow
fanweiqi [8d\]: but i will appreciate it
Rukas33 [11k\]: He left?
fanweiqi [8d\]: transforming our understanding
WiteDragon [3k\]: He's back
hondra [1d?\]: i wish there was a chat rank filter T_T
aham [8k\]: Q7
Tictactoe [-\]: sedol now returned considering his reply
liptos [3k\]: the cool thing is Lee doesn't have to hide his emotions \
at all like you have to when playing a human opponent, he can \
just talk aloud when he plays lol
trippin [2k\]: doesn't lee sedol know computers play strangely?
njs [1d\]: Sedol smokkes?
robsclone: he's learning, trippin
hondra [1d?\]: next w move will be brutal
Lilou [1d\]: weed 
goren22 [2k\]: q9 and ascend to godhood
golgo13 [7k\]: q8
rsun [-\]: that's why I autokibitz when playing bots
Bahji [4k\]: Some people should ask questions from here to promote \
the KGS go server...
gogonuts [4d\]: he has no previous bot experience i think
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Liptos - Google is working on the natural language \
translation... give it some time before it can even read your \
thoughts
helioxxx: I dont understand , B is losing points by doing this \
?
fanweiqi [8d\]: it may not be good, but
rsun [-\]: b has a grand plan
fanfan [3d\]: Lee is trying to deconcentrate alphaGo
superpal1 [1d\]: its influence
Lilou [1d\]: crete walls dont lose points
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: helioxxx - Seems like it, but let's see
Sweetrip [9d\]: as a strong tygem 9d myself, i believe alphago \
is decisively stronger than top pros now
feeldabern [4d\]: the right side points aren't important since \
the right bottom corner is soooo strong
trippin [2k\]: no prior bot experience??
liptos [3k\]: XiJinping haha true, just waiting for Skynet to \
take over
Matrok [3k\]: blunder or kami no itte ?
Ephidel [1k\]: decisively??
fanweiqi [8d\]: it's got something good
Sweetrip [9d\]: i cant believe i thought i can beat it
rsun [-\]: e13 is a shining spot next
fanweiqi [8d\]: lol
robsclone: i keep wondering about that. could we say that AlphaGo \
has "plans"?
golgo13 [7k\]: chick on badukTV is super cute
robsclone: or is each move considered, on its own
feeldabern [4d\]: you can beat it when it played fan hui ^^
bababob]
;W[oi]
C[Kolie34A: he played
LongLost [7k\]: p11 ugly shape..
isbhal [-\]: noooooooooo
blau3: yeaahh
kaliya [-\]: bah
highhand [5k\]: b p7
aham [8k\]: :)
Ephidel [1k\]: p11 is anti-zen style
Rankachan [6k\]: ..
gogonuts [4d\]: 2 for 2 for gogo
njs [1d\]: white is losing
manta [3d\]: lee trying too hard?
helioxxx: it means fight right ?
heather [1k\]: I think redmond is a little annoyed by the Chris, \
he's almost interviewing Redmond instead of aiding Redmond's \
commentary
aham [8k\]: mettre dix minutes pour ça!
robsclone: oh yikes
Jumadan [?\]: now black p7 awesome
Koons [?\]: ke jie link: http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fsports.letv.com%2Fmatch%2F122342003.html%23live%2F1020160303211940&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFOXsHA9HNU2jyRzRl13oPNaTjYEA
pierrot1: when aga streaming?
ranyee [3k\]: why q10 bad?
ranyee [3k\]: for 
kafkaesque [-\]: Just got here. Is Lee doing better this game?
Mig [6k\]: what??
fluidistic [-\]: no
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: perriot1 - Do you meant this? https://www.youtube.com/embed/l-GsfyVCBu0
rsun [-\]: q10 is moving to a small area
fluidistic [-\]: lee is below sea level
IlanKeshet [-\]: heather -- i think everyone is annoyed by chris
Koons [?\]: http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fsports.letv.com%2Fmatch%2F122342003.html%23live%2F1020160303211940&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFOXsHA9HNU2jyRzRl13oPNaTjYEA
kadoban [?\]: It's unclear thus far I think kafka
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Will b respond or tenuki?
Uberdude [2d\]: thx
njs [1d\]: Je pense que Lee sedol en mettant beaucoup de temps \
parce que il ne veut pas faire un autre mistake avec les groupes
GoIngo [?\]: crazy stone proposes o10 or n10 for white now
GoIngo [?\]: sorry, for black
BobWhoosta [2d\]: rsun, so you think that white will come out \
intho the N12 area instead of R9 after O10 by black?
DarkRaist [3k\]: Can someone tweet at garlock
adfafdsfaf: p10 some kind of strange asking move?
DarkRaist [3k\]: and ask him to chill out
zavion [2k\]: no, looking for myungwan kim commentary on aga youtube
okiol [1k\]: heather, no reason to think that - they have done \
a huge amount of commentaries together, and they always seem \
to get along, this is a big deal, and they're both trying to \
promote go - and they both recognize that they have different \
roles
aham [8k\]: no contact!
glasszee [3k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s advanced \
american commentary up
okiol [1k\]: one is the host, and one is the expert
pierrot1: no, the one on AGA channel
Kolie34A: 01o
jockey: i think the pros are just trying to figure out if alphago \
has a playing pattern. not so much to define the playing style.
rsun [-\]: sorry bob I can't see the rest of your sentence
Jumadan [?\]: i was thinking o10 for b
superpal1 [1d\]: even if LSD is losing, he should do it with style
Mars [10k?\]: o10
gomathgo [1k\]: thanks glasszee]

;B[nj]
C[rsun [-\]: the line breaks are gone
gomathgo [1k\]: so much better than the other one
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Oh, if you don't have the screen maximized, \
it will all show up.
About11kyu: thanks koons
okiol [1k\]: losing with style is great - but i'd prefer winning \
with style
jugi: p10 is testing move from sai to akira toya
zavion [2k\]: thx glasszee
IlanKeshet [-\]: was P11 a good exchange?
rsun [-\]: it's maximized already...
liptos [3k\]: aga is live
BobWhoosta [2d\]: No, unmaximize it.
fengitreon [2k\]: nice
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Then adjust.
IlanKeshet [-\]: where do i go for aga
rsun [-\]: oh
gomathgo [1k\]: can anyone else not hear myungwan though
BobWhoosta [2d\]: You will be able to see it all.
gomathgo [1k\]: on the aga one
gomathgo [1k\]: scroll up for the youtube link
Ahamay [7d?\]: yay Myungwan
okiol [1k\]: will it be m17 or r17?
liptos [3k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
trippin [2k\]: woooo AGA link
trippin [2k\]: =D
rsun [-\]: didn't know that until now
trippin [2k\]: stream*
rsun [-\]: thx a lot
IlanKeshet [-\]: yaaaaaaaaaaaah AGA
BobWhoosta [2d\]: No problem.  I just figured it out yesterday.
Koons [?\]: try this one for ke jie: http://sports.letv.com/match/122342003.html#live/1020160303211940
Blindspot [1d\]: https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
svgo [2k\]: p7 now?
okiol [1k\]: i'm guessing r17, because it doesn't give away as \
much strength
Blindspot [1d\]: this is better
Jumadan [?\]: whaaat
Jumadan [?\]: n12
Mars [10k?\]: n12 played.
njs [1d\]: he is setting up for m16
rsun [-\]: hmm it still doesn't work very well]
;W[mh]
C[Kolie34A: why does he play here? I don't understand
aham [8k\]: need to capture this 2 stone
IlanKeshet [-\]: what account is playing the aga board
LordTushi [9k?\]: And that's where we just stop following Lee \
Seedol's thinking
js13 [1k\]: Lee will win this time.
Moshudan [3d\]: this is pretty normal
okiol [1k\]: hmm i don't think this line of reasoning is that \
difficult to follow
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Kolie, this move sets up invasions on the top, \
pressures the O10 stones, and settles the Q14 group in an area \
that is more interesting.
blau3: W needs to be a Player rather than a Spectator in the \
center
fengitreon [2k\]: n12]
;B[gp]
C[Kolie34A: g4
fengitreon [2k\]: ?
rsun [-\]: some lines have line breaks but others don't...
superpal1 [1d\]: redmond seems stronger than OLSD
aham [8k\]: slow
fluidistic [-\]: LOL
TheCaptain [3d\]: ,
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Because the R6 stones are so alive, white doesn't \
want to just take points on the right side.
TheCaptain [3d\]: j
fluidistic [-\]: g4!!!!!!!!
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: So who are you rooting for? AI or Sedol? :D
glasszee [3k\]: outclassed
trippin [2k\]: g4 seems fun
glasszee [3k\]: it's over
LordTushi [9k?\]: Tenukiiiiiiii!!!
njs [1d\]: g4 IS IMPOSSIBLY AMAZINg
oldguy [4d\]: nice move for b
fengitreon [2k\]: how is n12 and g4, if on the video it had not \
been played that yet
fengitreon [2k\]: ???
LordTushi [9k?\]: Where's rsun's prediction of that move?
Anatoly [2d?\]: Alpha is simply beyond Lee
js13 [1k\]: Lee Sedol!!
fengitreon [2k\]: seems like the video is lagging
aham [8k\]: n12 is very nice
fluidistic [-\]: yeah it's 9d vs 20 d
IlanKeshet [-\]: What board is Myungwan ?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Probably G4 is not crazy amazing, right?
aham [8k\]: it's like a butterfly
okiol [1k\]: i'm a humanitarian, i root for w ofcourse
fengitreon [2k\]: and this is the real deal at present time
dangerdoom [2k\]: the captain speaks
rsun [-\]: I only predicted a genius move 10 s before alpha played \
p10
eatramen [?\]: http://sports.letv.com/match/122342003.html#live/1020160303211940
njs [1d\]: g4 is so amazing
njs [1d\]: best move I've seen
cxcv: mind-boggling moves here and there
eatramen [?\]: ke jie commentary ^
bababobo [1d?\]: takes sting out of o7 so b can play on the top
Kolie34A: tough game
Sweetrip [9d\]: where is ke jie commentary?
fluidistic [-\]: okiol you mean alphago right?  so when it wins \
google can start working on solving cancer instead of go
LongLost [7k\]: AGA commentator properly respectful, praise virtue.
eatramen [?\]: the link i posted 
okiol [1k\]: fluid, i always root for humans!
BobWhoosta [2d\]: G4 is forcing, but is it aji keshi?
Jumadan [?\]: f5?
Naphthalin [10k?\]: is myungkwam kim commenting?]
;W[gq]
C[eatramen [?\]: in about an hour he will
somniferus: g3
EOC: Napth: yes
okiol [1k\]: i don't want AI, it will cause way more harm than \
good
eatramen [?\]: maybe less
LongLost [7k\]: Already commenting..
trippin [2k\]: Napth, he is commenting now
Tako [-\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
Bovido [6k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
Sweetrip [9d\]: eatramen, i have no audio for that link
fluidistic [-\]: that's what im saying okiol.  if alphago wins \
many more humans could survive sure death
lajhfn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
Sweetrip [9d\]: is ke jie commentating in text, or...?
hondra [1d?\]: no, on tv
Kolie34A: the same link......
Moshudan [3d\]: if b were human, i would say he shows a lot of \
self-confidence. You need some to play g4 and p10
Sigrosa [7k\]: lee sedol nodded before that move like he understood \
or was satisfied with the board
eatramen [?\]: no, he is talking, he has a board 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: If you let AlphaGo win now, He will be more \
lenient to us later
hondra [1d?\]: http://sports.letv.com/match/122342003.html#live/1020160303211940
hondra [1d?\]: that's ke jie
eatramen [?\]: just wait, the camera will switch
threeoone [?\]: hmm
KobeGote [6k?\]: Has anybody found any live Japanese commentary?
blau3: 600 observers reached
njs [1d\]: white is SO GODANG OP
okiol [1k\]: fluid, i understand, but i don't agree... GO LEE!
eatramen [?\]: same link hondra
GoIngo [?\]: yes, AlphaGo is not a child of fear
trippin [2k\]: I wish had three brains, so I could listen to both \
commentaries and read KGS chat at the same time
Sakka [4k\]: jh
ranyee [3k\]: looks like b's territory only on top, b's center \
is open and low territory also
Tictactoe [-\]: please refrain from to much talk, thus players \
can find these website links easier
cxcv: The top pros seem finding P10, G4 ridiculous
fluidistic [-\]: h4 or h3 here?
Kolie34A: great center for black?
Eggplant [2d\]: anyone else feel that board is too high hard for \
Lee to get a birds eye view. is that normal. This kind of thing \
would drive me bonkers
Ahamay [7d?\]: here we go
manta [3d\]: tenuki 
feeldabern [4d\]: d6
feeldabern [4d\]: here we go
shashwat [7k?\]: d6 played
rsun [-\]: after game 1, I know top pros' opinion don't matter]
;B[dn]
C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: I like G3 for white.  I thought E6 at first, \
but it seem submissive, and black can tenuki.
Madzilla [1d?\]: B is still playing strong moves, so it doesn't \
believe it's winning yet...
fluidistic [-\]: wow 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Black will play around K12/L12 area now?
njs [1d\]: d6
njs [1d\]: omg
Azal [2d\]: ready to fight
USSRMan [3d\]: lee sedol loves these games
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Oh no black played D6
fluidistic [-\]: time to sweat for se dol
Jumadan [?\]: now its getting funny
njs [1d\]: Did Lee sedol not consider d6
cxcv: D6 says, 'ready to fight?, dude?'
njs [1d\]: Omg
Kolie34A: oh
fluidistic [-\]: g3 group so weak
Azal [2d\]: I don't like d6
gogonuts [4d\]: d6 confident or desperate? so hard to tell with \
bots
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Njs lol
oldguy [4d\]: this game looks more vigorous than game 1 to me
fluidistic [-\]: g3 is almost dead?
threeoone [?\]: wow ... soooo ... heavy ;-)
Ahamay [7d?\]: G5 now?
blau3: W can E7, but B gets three kikashis for this
Azal [2d\]: this game looks deeper 
superpal1 [1d\]: h4
Ahamay [7d?\]: or maybe just H4
bababobo [1d?\]: i think o7 again becomes interesting for w
GoIngo [?\]: crazystone beliees 50 %
LordTushi [9k?\]: this game is very interesting
threeoone [?\]: take all play h4 nidan bane W
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: njs - Lee Sedol is probably not concentrating \
on the game, and is more worried about what life will be like \
toiling away in the mines to expand hollow earth space for more \
AI circuitry in the future dystopian AI world
Ellyboo [9k\]: how long before he resigns and refuses to play \
another game?
dangerdoom [2k\]: hes not gonna do that
fluidistic [-\]: 180 minutes
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: You can't beat Lee Sedol if he refuses to play
gogonuts [4d\]: if cs doen't prefer the bot then the human is \
better :-)
Moshudan [3d\]: was p10 a proper way to prepare the center fight \
?
Sweetrip [9d\]: 2-0 is the same as 5-0
Sweetrip [9d\]: a win 
Sweetrip [9d\]: doesnt matter what lee sedol does
KobeGote [6k?\]: Myungwan just called AlphaGo rude. Rude is just \
one step away from humanity enslaving
superpal1 [1d\]: 2-0 is not the same as 5-0\\
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Moshudan - "Proper" is a matter of opinion, \
but the AI calculated a highest percent chance of success there
Long [?\]: this is a big blow 
Jermelle [?\]: LSD is doing well this game
njs [1d\]: Lee sedol is getting rekt
Sweetrip [9d\]: sure it is
njs [1d\]: Seriously
Uberdude [2d\]: g3 looks rash
Sweetrip [9d\]: 100% win rate
threeoone [?\]: alpha go doesnt know how to win with black
Uberdude [2d\]: lee played it too fast
Moshudan [3d\]: @xijinping : with this kind of argument you don't \
think  anymore. "The bot did that so he has calculated so it \
is good"
bababobo [1d?\]: reach 3-0 and it's over
Trevoke [?\]: Folks, if you're going to make snide remarks about \
AI, please consider Roko's Basilisk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LessWrong#Roko.27s_basilisk
fluidistic [-\]: lee regrets the N12 move now
DonValley [6d?\]: sweetrip vs alphago?
covert [?\]: well, with all the LoL talk earlier, maybe someone's \
going to report AlphaGo for BM
Rukas33 [11k\]: Oh my god
Rukas33 [11k\]: The shoulder hit was prep for this fight
cxcv: O10: after 97 moves these two stones provide ladder
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Moshudan - The Google dev came out and talked \
about how the AI prioritizes moves to play in a basic manner \
and how it's different from how human players prioritize moves
gluiwiya [4k\]: h4
ranyee [3k\]: is h4 possible?
trippin [2k\]: "Alphago is free now"
rsun [-\]: lee sedol may win if he can switch colors
trippin [2k\]: -- Fan Hui
superpal1 [1d\]: Alphago supporter makes lot of noise after the \
first win
fluidistic [-\]: LOl rsun
Jumadan [?\]: what the?
Jumadan [?\]: d7
Moshudan [3d\]: xijin : if we try to think about the moves, we \
have to do in our human way.
Kountch [1k\]: Hi. Does anyone knows where I can watch Ke Jie's \
live comments?
Jumadan [?\]: d7 played
fluidistic [-\]: w bugged]

;W[dm]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Moshudan - You're right
njs [1d\]: f5..
njs [1d\]: obviously
gogonuts [4d\]: they need to stop calling the pathetic pile of \
silicon "she" :-)
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Moshudan - A lot of high dans were surprised \
by P10 when it happened
trippin [2k\]: It's fine to use a pronoun
threeoone [?\]: is there any live commentary today ? myungwan \
kim maybe ?
Kolie34A: hmmm]
;B[fo]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Moshudan - So maybe that's a better answer \
:)
medical [-\]: yes there is
Trevoke [?\]: Live commentary by Kim: https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s&feature=live-chat-promo
Kolie34A: uh
Trevoke [?\]: Live commentary by Redmond: https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
Azal [2d\]: mmmmmm
isbhal [-\]: i feel bad
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I like the Redmond commentary
Kolie34A: e5
njs [1d\]: Does Kim think Lee Sedol is losing
ranyee [3k\]: is f3 completely alive?
gluiwiya [4k\]: ??
danielhast [?\]: W made an interesting face at that move
Sweetrip [9d\]: i think alphago is much better than lee sedol \
in combat
glasszee [3k\]: njs: kim would prefer w on this board
cxcv: F6
manta [3d\]: what is this
itsurmove [1k\]: lee resigns
njs [1d\]: it's white getting absolutely rekt
njs [1d\]: Obviously
kaliya [-\]: Who is Kim?
playerx [1k?\]: why for each stream there is a guy who play the \
stupid guy ? (or really is?) kind of boring
blau3: W k3 and a bit of magic to make sabaki?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Sweetrip - Why do you suppose that is? If you \
had to guess?
Kolie34A: white can live
SoloWay [3k\]: AlphaGo is actually the GLADoS and it's testing \
Lee :) 
murky [?\]: Chen Yaoye 9p thinks these B move do not make sense
gogonuts [4d\]: must e5 :-)
glasszee [3k\]: myungwan kim 9p, commenting
Sachan [?\]: how many games do you think alphago played since \
yesterday? Thousands at least.
Sweetrip [9d\]: do you know how alphago works?
gogonuts [4d\]: ?
SoloWay [3k\]: Portal 3 confirmed]
;W[hp]
C[rsun [-\]: which move did aja play loudly?
Sweetrip [9d\]: it simulates millions of variations
Moshudan [3d\]: (xijin : when we saw p10 we were thinking about \
the right. But it was directed somehow toward the left. That \
all what i meant when i realized it, maybe i said it awkwardly)
njs [1d\]: Can white cut off d5
zavion [2k\]: h4 and then push through e5?
USSRMan [3d\]: this fight favors white imo
USSRMan [3d\]: but not sure against a super computer
Kolie34A: I've never think of this move
glasszee [3k\]: all this hype about alphago,  h4 is very tactful
Sweetrip [9d\]: and those variations are already "preapproved" \
by its value network
eatramen [?\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZtZdAaInEM
lcc [4k\]: even Alphago can play 300M games, that's still tiny \
number comparing to the possible games
Ahamay [7d?\]: I don't like white in this fight
eatramen [?\]: japanese commentary
Sweetrip [9d\]: so you know it doesnt waste time simulating moves \
at say 1-1
gomathgo [1k\]: it's a combination of deep learning and monte \
carlo tree search]
;B[ho]
C[jijii: ladder is good for b
Falcon89 [5k\]: this might lead to a big B outside moyo
njs [1d\]: Yes Sweetrip... that's how alphago works
shabazz [?\]: The pont is alphago not only simulates millions \
of variations, but also store the result of previous simulation \
in a network that catches essential information (intuition like)
Ellyboo [9k\]: white dies
rsun [-\]: smoke, this looks terrible for w
njs [1d\]: ^ no he doesnt
zavion [2k\]: w dont need ladder, it can cut off and connect. \
then b is floating
Kolie34A: alphago will become stronger and stronger after playing \
many games
lcc [4k\]: Alphago plays with itself won't improve a bit
hihi [6d\]: e5 
gogonuts [4d\]: i think its strange for w too - suddenly w under \
pressure]
;W[eo]
C[superpal1 [1d\]: j4 j5 e5 e6 f6 e7 g6 
njs [1d\]: white will cut
covert [?\]: lcc: not actually true – the strongest chss engines \
have got stronger through self-play
BobWhoosta [2d\]: I think this looks pretty alright for black.
goren22 [2k\]: no b f6 for massive sente lead
goren22 [2k\]: now
jijii: b playing like a kyu player
BobWhoosta [2d\]: No covert, they don't have neural network and \
heuristic learning.
njs [1d\]: e6 f6 e7 g6 g5 f8 e8 e9 d8 c8 
jijii: they mixed the programs, gave kuy player instead of top \
pro
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Chess programs are written code, they don't \
learn.
jijii: b trolling lee sedol
feeldabern [4d\]: kyu player possessed by sai
zavion [2k\]: b might just sacrifice
Azal [2d\]: yes
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: AlphaGo possessed by Sai
USSRMan [3d\]: sac is really bad
njs [1d\]: black h3
BobWhoosta [2d\]: I don't see the sacrifice being good.
Ephidel [1k\]: oh shoooott]

;B[en];W[fn]
C[Jermelle [?\]: LSD is in some trouble, but he's gonna fight lol
indogo [11k?\]: sai :)
njs [1d\]: LSD isn't working well atm
lcc [4k\]: Black is dead here
USSRMan [3d\]: refer to leesedol as lee, jermelle or you will \
get booted by mod
njs [1d\]: Watch alphago tenuki lmao
Ellyboo [9k\]: white dies
blau3: W nidan bane J5 looking better and better...
Le0na99 [5k\]: great Lee
goren22 [2k\]: g6 now.  gotta sack it.  Huge sente after
cxcv: :o)
Nam [-\]: w will not
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Can't sacrifice.
zavion [2k\]: no, w is fine]
;B[em]
C[njs [1d\]: White isn't going to die
BobWhoosta [2d\]: If black sacrifice there, it was a bad line.
Ephidel [1k\]: oh dang
murky [?\]: ladder favors W
chansiukit [1k\]: ladder
Le0na99 [5k\]: g6
asd: omg ladder works
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: This is neat
Moshudan [3d\]: goren, you should not sacrifice so easily. Same \
before for f6
Rankachan [6k\]: ....
hondra [1d?\]: Redmond 9p misread ladder lol
kirtar [23k?\]: wasn't there a way to kill it off earlier anyways?
Rankachan [6k\]: ladder ??
Kolie34A: white group must live
Jermelle [?\]: LOOL
jijii: i like it when bot takes time before playing the only \
move
njs [1d\]: Guys, there is no need for a ladder
Ephidel [1k\]: maybe it can't read the ladder!!]
;W[el]
C[jijii: gives human player some hope
Ephidel [1k\]: that would be so funny
kirtar [23k?\]: you can force it into the N12 stone right?
wolvie [?\]: ladder hypu
Moshudan [3d\]: sacrifice it, but the hard way
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Do you guys remember the Cho Chikun game where \
Cho played out a LONG ladder across the baord _that died_ and \
it was part of Cho's winning strategy?
Jumadan [?\]: how its work for w?
royu [4d\]: i wonder if alpha can read the entire ladder
Nam [-\]: nice job
Jermelle [?\]: LSD ladders XD
Ahamay [7d?\]: ah this one
trippin [2k\]: oh man
Azal [2d\]: FB bot, today, did not read a ladder pattern......
USSRMan [3d\]: alpha definately read the ladder
hondra [1d?\]: That was Lee Sedol
trippin [2k\]: they have custom code for ladders
Azal [2d\]: FB bot 5d
trippin [2k\]: right?]
;B[fm]
;W[gn]
C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: I think black will sacrifice the G4 stones.
Ahamay [7d?\]: this will be a trade, both captuire something and \
will be alive
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: hondra - Was it? I'm sorry
Rankachan [6k\]: omg
cekalo [1k\]: omg
cxcv: ladder appears :D
Jermelle [?\]: LOLOLOL
jijii: g5 
feeldabern [4d\]: ladder doesn't work for w
cxcv: 80 moves left
Rankachan [6k\]: genius move ?
Nam [-\]: g7?
Jermelle [?\]: If it connects imma laugh
jijii: g5 h6 then net
Ephidel [1k\]: ladder works
Ellyboo [9k\]: white dead
KazeDoukei [5k\]: ladder works
jijii: ladder works for b, but net works for w
highhand [5k\]: early game finish?
cekalo [1k\]: ladder workd they just showedthat
njs [1d\]: Yes... the ladder works. We know.
apple2 [2k\]: does work . see original comment
buhaypa [3k\]: Michael Redmond says it works 
Uberdude [2d\]: what about g7?
kirtar [23k?\]: it works
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: This game is amazing
ght [3k\]:  white has h6
Nam [-\]: g7 h6
rsun [-\]: alpha can read ladders!]
;B[fl]
C[Jermelle [?\]: aww...
feeldabern [4d\]: ladder doesn't work but h6 does work
Rankachan [6k\]: -0-
cxcv: ?
cekalo [1k\]: omg omg
sum [3d\]: BTW the other ladder works for B:: j5 j4 h3 j6 k5 l5
ZhugeLiang [2k\]: lee sedol vs dumpling
Ephidel [1k\]: lol
Azal [2d\]: i like w a lot now
KobeGote [6k?\]: Is g5 too slow for white?
Ephidel [1k\]: looks good for white
hondra [1d?\]: only 50% of kgs watching
superpal1 [1d\]: h6
Moshudan [3d\]: this is very good for w, isn't it ?
njs [1d\]: This looks bad for back
njs [1d\]: blackj
Rankachan [6k\]: interesting ?
zampa [-\]: Anyone have the link to the 'normal' stream?
njs [1d\]: The tables have turned
shashwat [7k?\]: i really hate how igoogle's stream suddenly goes \
from pointing out aji to explaining bamboo joint.
sum [3d\]: B intentional sacrifice
Azal [2d\]: sweetrip, comments????
hondra [1d?\]: no, hurts w left side and w still not alive
Long [?\]: what????
BobWhoosta [2d\]: White can E9 here?
Nam [-\]: b doing good
shashwat [7k?\]: it clearly looks like redmond hates it too
goren22 [2k\]: which is why b had to sac earlier.  Whay have this \
heavy group?
somniferus: no commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8Ppdntupg
rsun [-\]: pros have no clue until the fight is over
zampa [-\]: sorry the redmond stream.
LongLost [7k\]: AlphaGo needs to train left commentator in manners.]
;W[go]
C[jijii: d8 ?
heather [1k\]: ladder worked without h6 bern
njs [1d\]: Alphago did badly in this exchange
superpal1 [1d\]: LSD settles his group
njs [1d\]: ouch
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I wonder what will happen
BobWhoosta [2d\]: I like white now.
trippin [2k\]: alphago loses this game?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Redmond just explained what black is aiming \
for
murky [?\]: Chen Yaoye 0p thinks B is shattered now
murky [?\]: 9p
blau3: B E9 and re-trying to build some kind of center
glasszee [3k\]: alphago is just experimenting with LSD
shashwat [7k?\]: how's black's territory around o7?
goren22 [2k\]: b q7 now
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Black didn't gain, and white reduced the center. \
The white side is a little reduced, but black is weak in the \
center now.
Eggplant [2d\]: where is the redmond commented game?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Black is aiming to threaten white on the left \
side, and then link up with E16 stones
cxcv: E7 is to provide ANOTHER ladder for future fight
GoIngo [?\]: crazystone still thinks: balanced chances
superpal1 [1d\]: AG influence is still big in center
cxcv: You can't see it :D
Jumadan [?\]: not that big now
Long [?\]: is there a tesuji at b7
Long [?\]: after e9]
;B[ek]
C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: I disagree, alphago is weaker in the center, \
F8 is still not alive, and P10 can be separated and attacked.
feeldabern [4d\]: b would just play at c8]
;W[dk]
C[zavion [2k\]: i like b
Long [?\]: b7?
AhSayuni [5d?\]: what is ke jie saying?..
KobeGote [6k?\]: I kind of miss the loud rumbling stones from \
the last aga broadcast :(
trippin [2k\]: b7 works?
kaliya [-\]: Trying to setup a ko?
trippin [2k\]: oh nvm
Long [?\]: nvm
dangerdoom [2k\]: ;ee sedol is looking good
robsclone: commentators called D8 for next move
icecream99 [1d?\]: Why w not h6 instead of g5?
robsclone: by b
zavion [2k\]: errr i like w i meant. center moves look unefficient \
now and b is floating]

;B[dl];W[cl]
C[manta [3d\]: pros like honte moves like g5
Kolie34A: h7
lcc [4k\]: Alphago looks like a beginner now
Jermelle [?\]: LSD doing well :D He won't let us down
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yeah, g5 prepares for future mayhem by containing \
aji and reducing forcing moves.
Long [?\]: b shape is so bad
Jermelle [?\]: LSD never let's us down
robsclone: interesting
Kolie34A: I support Sedol
Prime [2k\]: LSD
playerx [1k?\]: Kim is confident for white
Long [?\]: e10
ThePooka: where can i watch with commentary?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I'm rooting for the AI
BobWhoosta [2d\]: I like his quote from his book "You must have \
a thick position for proper planning in the middlegame."
cxcv: super heavy black group
BobWhoosta [2d\]: (paraphrased).
Akechi [4k\]: I support the Person 
LongLost [7k\]: Commentator on left is precisely fatuous Silicon \
Valley excess influence, inferior merit.
goren22 [2k\]: is b gonna h3?
robsclone: sorry for noobness: how do you see how many people \
are spectating, right now?
robsclone: (on KGS client)
Kashomon [2k?\]: Chris isn't a programmer
rsun [-\]: looks like the moment for another kami no itte
feeldabern [4d\]: is j7 possible
Fubini [1k\]: here 610
blau3: time for B S15?
Kashomon [2k?\]: He edits the AGA journal.
womack [2k\]: Where Redmond commentary tonight?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Robsclone - Look at the chat window where you \
found this game to join
feeldabern [4d\]: or h6 then h8
eatramen [?\]: go to "Active Games" tab
Fubini [1k\]: in youtube avode 50K
rsun [-\]: man I know things are coming
ranyee [3k\]: i dont understand why b made it
JohnNothaf [23k\]: in the active games tab. it will say rhere
Fubini [1k\]: above*
robsclone: thank you XiJingping2!
BobWhoosta [2d\]: H5 and then H8 for black?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Wow, black had the same idea Redmond said black \
had
Prime [2k\]: over 100k watching on china stream i believe
cxcv: all of white groups are solid now]
;B[eh]
C[ookwrd [11k\]: exciting game again
cxcv: not much chance for bot
jijii: b troll
Azal [2d\]: wow
eatramen [?\]: e12..
Jermelle [?\]: e12 seems interesting, trying to go for the middle, \
common
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: No prob, Robscolioni
gogonuts [4d\]: another cool move
Kolie34A: i don't understand
bromeas [2k?\]: bot thinks less than 10 stones are aji
BobWhoosta [2d\]: D12 seems proper now.
cxcv: Lee is a tough player too
njs [1d\]: black loses this game
njs [1d\]: Good game alphago
Falcon89 [5k\]: u see this..TicTacToe        Ob 611
rsun [-\]: gogo, how many goosebumps you've got now
jijii: alphago playing like zen
pagapont [6k\]: can someone give me link to commentated version?
forobaduks [8k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Michael Redmond commenting live --> https://www.youtube.com/embed/l-GsfyVCBu0
BobWhoosta [2d\]: M3 aji is open still too.
pagapont [6k\]: ty :)
ThePooka: thanks!
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: This is such an exciting game
ranyee [3k\]: looks li b watchs for center but its very open
gogonuts [4d\]: i feel for lee, because i know all bots are tyrants \
at heart
Akechi [4k\]: in China you is blocked
BobWhoosta [2d\]: So black's territory is the upper left and lower \
left, and white has lower right and left side.
Akechi [4k\]: youtube*
GoIngo [?\]: f11 now for white, proposes cs
blau3: Can W afford to F11?
Tictactoe [-\]: a tictactoe game attracting over 600 observers, \
call the newspapers ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
Falcon89 [5k\]: haha
icarus451 [4k\]: Does anyone have the link to the Kie Jie commentary?
Kolie34A: yesterday over 700
KobeGote [6k?\]: You're my hero tictactoe :)
azblueeyes [8k\]: myungwankim is commentating (9p) on aga youtube \
site
eatramen [?\]: I would for the Ramen Times
KobeGote [6k?\]: I wonder what the record number of observers \
is for a KGS game
Tako [-\]: http://www.douyutv.com/533882
Le0na99 [5k\]: stop
hondra [1d?\]: Alpha looking at C9 :D
icarus451 [4k\]: thank you!
Tako [-\]: yw
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Were computers predicted to beat professionals \
right around this time? Or were software developments boosting \
it ahead of its time?
somniferus: no
Iniesta [2k\]: what ke jie is thinking so far ?
Madzilla [1d?\]: the future came early...
hondra [1d?\]: A French student of Remi Coulom's started it all \
with MCTS
voevius [5k\]: CS guy reporting, we thought we were safe from \
AI takeover for many more years
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Interesting
indogo [11k?\]: e13?
trippin [2k\]: apparently it was somewhat expected by some of \
those who were very closely following the field
jijii: a few months ago facebook was proud to beat 5d amateurs
Le0na99 [5k\]: black resigned?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: XiJinping, common thought was perhaps another \
10-15 years before computer go could progress to this level.
rsun [-\]: b certainly has momentum now
azblueeyes [8k\]: f11 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: BobWhoosta - Thanks
Le0na99 [5k\]: white resigned?
Kolie34A: no
Prime [2k\]: guys black resigned
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Maybe go just had way less development from \
major programming teams, unlike more popular Chess?
elsky [2d\]: you resigned
Madzilla [1d?\]: why would he, this is still balanced
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Which caused go predictions to be off by so \
much
Kolie34A: no one resigned in this game
Madzilla [1d?\]: that's not really the case
Prime [2k\]: sorry im just being a troll :)
BobWhoosta [2d\]: No XiJinping, it is the problem of the large \
game tree.
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Once serious development started, the software \
caught up to the hardware
Moshudan [3d\]: isn't white supposed to be ahead after G5 ? 
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Chess has on average 30-40 move choices on each \
move.
KobeGote [6k?\]: I heard that positional evaluation is easier \
in chess because you can count material
TAZZ [6k\]: 1-1 now ?
Madzilla [1d?\]: this is the result of a new (and unexpected) \
approach
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Go has almost 400 at the start.
hondra [1d?\]: chess is 20 on average
Kristas [3k?\]: Какими играет ли седоль? 
BobWhoosta [2d\]: So it is exponentially bigger in the options.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: hondra, thanks for the correction.
kaliya [-\]: Kristas: Белые
goren22 [2k\]: each chess move, however, is more important than \
each go move (on average)
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Bob - Right, but go programs got strong years \
before predicted to become strong
trippin [2k\]: in 2012, some predicted 3 more years. publicly \
visible progress slowed in 2013 - 2015 until alphago beat Fan \
Hui (trying to remember this from an article Ir ead)]
;W[di]
C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: In chess, you can basically make a super strong \
calculator, that sees all the options.
Kristas [3k?\]: Спасибо
Moshudan [3d\]: white very cautious
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Bob - And it wasn't hardware that had a revolutionary \
leap... so that leaves software improvements
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yes, but they have found a solution to the big \
game tree.
Jermelle [?\]: Hm? no fighting. 
BobWhoosta [2d\]: They had to approach it in a far different way.
Jermelle [?\]: I know he's ahead but he isn't that ahead
hondra [1d?\]: now watch b go all zen moyo on w
Madzilla [1d?\]: combining two deep convolutional networks and \
MTCS in the way AlphaGo did is a completely new idea, and training \
this kind of compound system is also at the front of AI research. \
That's why they got published in Nature, not because they beat \
a pro.
goren22 [2k\]: is it gonna be b13?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: That is why they thought it would take so long.
Moshudan [3d\]: b is good at controlling the flow of the game
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Bob - Oh, interesting, what did they do differently?
jijii: q5 means alphago has no concept of aji keshi?
kaliya [-\]: B F11]
;B[pj]
C[Madzilla [1d?\]: read the Nature article
BobWhoosta [2d\]: There are a few ways.
Azal [2d\]: w not getting sente
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: BobWhoosta - Or do you have a link to a nice \
write-up?
kaliya [-\]: Oh no, Alpha extended
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Hmm, anyone have a good link?
Kolie34A: p7
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Madzilla - Is it this one? http://www.nature.com/news/google-ai-algorithm-masters-ancient-game-of-go-1.19234
TAZZ [6k\]: how much time atm, for each player?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: I only have a basic understanding of how it \
works.
Prime [2k\]: q10 seems weird
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago all over the place
KBAC [2d\]: yaa
Jermelle [?\]: pls f10 lee sedol, go hard lol
jijii: b playing with fire
blau3: just another nice kikashi, isn't it?
Goceman86 [-\]: 1hr for lee 1hr 23min for alpha
Madzilla [1d?\]: yes, and if you're a computer scientist you can \
read the actual paper
Azal [2d\]: f10 not so good i guess
rsun [-\]: b stones are much more efficient than w
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Madzilla - Thanks a ton, same to BobWhoosta
goren22 [2k\]: w gotta peep at o5 no?
jijii: r11 
Jermelle [?\]: hmm. he played r11
Moshudan [3d\]: "much more" is a bit difficult to believe, rsun
cxcv: black is thin
njs [1d\]: black can ignore o5
USSRMan [3d\]: r11 is thick
Kolie34A: really? r11?
njs [1d\]: What choice does he have USSR
Tictactoe [-\]: Sedol spend almost a full hour on his game so \
far, alphago played quicker and has 22 minutes more
kaliya [-\]: Yes R11
njs [1d\]: r10 is worse
cxcv: the upper side is just moyo
TAZZ [6k\]: m17?
goren22 [2k\]: so now q7?]

;W[qi]
C[trippin [2k\]: last game lee sedol didn't make full use of time
Eternal6k [6k?\]: S14
jijii: lee sedol, don't be afraid to attack
Fubini [1k\]: s14 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: There are two reasons GNUGo plays so many tenukis: \
1) Because it is smarter than you, or 2) Because it realized \
that your unpredicted moves are much smarter than itself and \
it's hopeless to continue playing there
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Maybe those two reasons are the same for AlphaGo \
:)]
;B[rf]
C[njs [1d\]: This isn't Gnugo
js13 [1k\]: now alphago behave like a truly bot, there r some \
move that we could learn from bot
Garp [11k\]: given the fact that ggl bought this compagny because \
they made an AI that could play well at Space Invaders, and they \
reused that for Go, does that means that I should play old Atari \
games to improve my go level ? ;-)
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: But probably the former rather than the latter....
njs [1d\]: What does that have to do with anything
Prime [2k\]: woah
Moshudan [3d\]: good call eternal !
Kolie34A: oh
KobeGote [6k?\]: GnuGo's tenuki's are almost always bad in my \
experience
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Responding to people saying AlphaGo is all \
over the place
Jermelle [?\]: huge...
robsclone: anybody happen to have a link to the korean commentary?]
;W[rg]
C[Jermelle [?\]: Now black feels a little more ahead
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Robsclone - I don't, but it's on "BadukTV" \
channel
rsun [-\]: now do you see how w stones are not efficient
Kolie34A: white will play around l16 soon,I think
kdbaby14 [6k\]: W has less territory
Moshudan [3d\]: what are pros opinion about the game now ?
njs [1d\]: Just wait till white invades
Lasagne [6k\]: should Lee invade the top soon?
lofuchi [3k\]: he must I think, otherwise too big
Kolie34A: yes
njs [1d\]: White will play o7
njs [1d\]: or something
lofuchi [3k\]: but how to invade I don't know
kdbaby14 [6k\]: will attachment at O-17 work?
glasszee [3k\]: b believes she is winning, begins endgame?
GoIngo [?\]: tenuki with h6 now?
highhand [5k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bATCEcRbBzE
kaliya [-\]: L17
rsun [-\]: alpha is making pro opinion as unreliable as se
goren22 [2k\]: d14?
highhand [5k\]: korean commentary?]
;B[kd]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha rsun
eatramen [?\]: yeah @high
robsclone: thanks again, XiJiNiPinIng2!
njs [1d\]: o7!
USSRMan [3d\]: damn this is like a stone budda level calm move
Jermelle [?\]: B saying: I want points, not sente
Lasagne [6k\]: i think the US commentator (DeepMind channel) on \
the left should talk faster ;)
Moshudan [3d\]: somehow, alpha is a bit like Lee changho. 
blau3: W R17 still possible? If so, it looks urgent
jijii: alphago is confident!
Prime [2k\]: dannnggg
hondra [1d?\]: r17 q17 s15 s16 
shashwat [7k?\]: Lasagne, and talk less
rsun [-\]: b got 40 more points after 2 moves
Lasagne [6k\]: well if it's faster it's not so annoying ;)
kasoud [?\]: Lee w !
Azal [2d\]: w seems short on territory
Kolie34A: concentrate
lofuchi [3k\]: w really is so patient
Lasagne [6k\]: you can see it on Michaels face
lofuchi [3k\]: or is that just lagging behind
kasoud [?\]: Lee w ?
kaji82 [3k\]: I don't like white now
Falcon89 [5k\]: ya
Long [?\]: se b 77+
Kolie34A: defensve alpha
Lasagne [6k\]: Lee taking a lot of time, 57 mins left
Cassiopeia [3d\]: something like o7
cxcv: se lol
kasoud [?\]: Thks
lugubrious [5k\]: alphago thinks its in the bag
Kolie34A: don't trust se
cxcv: se can give alpha 4 handicaps
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Trust SE when AlphaGo is the technology behind \
it :)
shashwat [7k?\]: why are people saying alpha has it in the bag?
robsclone: can AlphaGo get "overconfident"?
Kolie34A: maybe
Long [?\]: alphago lives for 1000 years already
itsurmove [1k\]: seems going to be 5:0
USSRMan [3d\]: course not, computers dont have feelings
lofuchi [3k\]: i don't know why SE isn't improved at all while \
alphaGo already can reach such heights
cxcv: In SE, we trust
njs [1d\]: First of all
njs [1d\]: AlphaGo takes many programmers each day working nonstop
Lasagne [6k\]: SE is nostalgic ;)
njs [1d\]: KGS doesn't 
rsun [-\]: what are you talking about, se has perfected random \
number generation
feeldabern [4d\]: Alphago needs to improve to reach SE level still
KobeGote [6k?\]: SE is just playing on a higher level. It doesn't \
understand why we can't achieve its predicted scores
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Robsclone - Good question, probably the answer \
depends on how they programmed its "calculate chance of winning \
from this board position" routine]
;W[hn]
C[njs [1d\]: KGS stopped programming stuff
kadoban [?\]: lofuchi: I don't think anyone actually works on \
SE, it's just the same crap code that was first implemented.
Moshudan [3d\]: ! This looks so damn slow
lofuchi [3k\]: i also think so
njs [1d\]: Is h6 really the biggest move
Jermelle [?\]: He's gonna try and start a fight.
njs [1d\]: what about o7
gogonuts [4d\]: cool h6
Jermelle [?\]: f10 or f11 soon
rsun [-\]: w aiming at swallowing f8 stones
blau3: W aiming at re-attacking the Black F8 dumpling
feeldabern [4d\]: if you don't play it, black can play it for \
some nice influence
rsun [-\]: alpha may sacrifice those stones
rsun [-\]: those stones are not useful now
Moshudan [3d\]: most of us KGS players would rush and try sthg \
at the top ^^
feeldabern [4d\]: but locally it's the only move for w
lofuchi [3k\]: i would invade top as well
Rayoz [4d\]: p7 ?
rsun [-\]: see?
Codexus [7k?\]: h6 is either 20k or 9p move
Uberdude [2d\]: o7?
Kolie34A: lol
threeoone [?\]: tenuki for sure
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: White can't eat those, N12 is still unsettled \
and R8 can break out
kaji82 [3k\]: can white invade top ?
USSRMan [3d\]: why not d17?
lofuchi [3k\]: doesn't look good if I G17
rsun [-\]: w spent too many moves locally
danielhast [?\]: W planning to pressure E7 to launch invasion \
of top?
sprouts [1d\]: Loi because money 
njs [1d\]: yes o7
delinda [1d\]: L12
njs [1d\]: Why not Uberdude
Azal [2d\]: b going to tenuki
lofuchi [3k\]: w just play so strange to me :)
USSRMan [3d\]: j8
Jermelle [?\]: p7 
lofuchi [3k\]: can't understand why he is so patient
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: danielhast - I don't know, but really creative \
good idea
Prime [2k\]: i feel like lee sedol might just go ham soon
mement: Lee win
eatramen [?\]: hmmmm
Padraik [8k?\]: Black P7
js13 [1k\]: h9, p7 miai for white
Moshudan [3d\]: I would like for w to play Q7, to make the fight \
bigger]

;B[om]
C[tam1998 [1k\]: b played p7 alright i think
blau3: W RHS has S15 and S9 miai, so it's safe.
tam1998 [1k\]: oh well :D
njs [1d\]: See
njs [1d\]: Black got p7
USSRMan [3d\]: why p7
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Moshudan - Too slow haha
njs [1d\]: p7 is huge
njs [1d\]: Think about if white played there
elsky [2d\]: p7 terrible
danielhast [?\]: P7 protects P10 group
highhand [5k\]: w m10
Eternal6k [6k?\]:  S15
fdasdsfa: actually w would play o7]
;W[re]
C[danielhast [?\]: now B has one less weak group in center
eatramen [?\]: @bobwhooosta stop hitting onhaylee
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Michael Redmond and AGA commentator said P7 \
was fine
crate [?\]: oh no L16 and P7 
kadoban [?\]: P7 about fixing possibility for weak group?
Jermelle [?\]: Lee going for 3-3 aji...
blau3: This game constitutes a lesson about proper moves (honte).
ruby [2d\]: Zen prefers b
mement: s15 coz P10group be strong?]
;B[rd]
C[Bombil [2d?\]: Lee is white?
hemster [-\]: zen is biased]
;W[sf]
C[robsclone: Lee is white
Kolie34A: k7
USSRMan [3d\]: this is big
Lasagne [6k\]: KGS just shows who's who :)
USSRMan [3d\]: but gote
fengitreon [2k\]: .
robsclone: hmm
blau3: W R17 quite a threat
qzx1198 [?\]: L12?
kaji82 [3k\]: I think AlphaGo hate KO
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Wait......... is Lee Sedol his real name or \
one of those honorific "bestowed" names? Because I just realized \
"Sedol" is a homophone in Korean for "Strong Stone" lol
weiqidevil [-\]: why is lee playing so many slow moves?
dxxd [1k\]: h6 seems nice
GoIngo [?\]: crazy stone also prefers black now: 56 %
highhand [5k\]: instead of w t14 , why not m10 for w?
Moshudan [3d\]: now R11 looks a bit overconcentrated, doesn't \
it ?
robsclone: where's teh big move for white?
ruby [2d\]: Zen suggests F11]
;B[fi]
C[gejimayu [2d?\]: wow. :)
adfafdsfaf: Kim learned something from alphago. Q5 exchange might \
be good.
KobeGote [6k?\]: Myungwan says AlphaGo read this from the beginning, \
and that is why she played Q5
js13 [1k\]: now b have f7 group to settle 
njs [1d\]: Lee is missing huge moves
USSRMan [3d\]: calm thick move
danielhast [?\]: S15 worth giving up sente?
njs [1d\]: He could've played f10 first
Jermelle [?\]: Yeah. I felt like B was gonna protect or lee would \
kill
Sweetrip [9d\]: i think q5 is not good
USSRMan [3d\]: it changes style midgame
Jermelle [?\]: The bot is getting busy...
Sweetrip [9d\]: white should play 2nd line kosumi
Sweetrip [9d\]: i never understood why people connect
dfhdff: q5 = r5?
feeldabern [4d\]: myung showed it makes p2 for b almost sente
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Interesting that you think Q5 not good, Sweetrip
blau3: W H6 turning out to  be sort of sente, after B F11
dfhdff: q5 is a b stone
Sweetrip [9d\]: it is good in this case
feeldabern [4d\]: because of r2 threat
njs [1d\]: Sweetrip
adfafdsfaf: If you play S6, then P2 is sente.
Sweetrip [9d\]: but if lee sedol played s7 instead
njs [1d\]: How much you think white is losing by
adfafdsfaf: Sorry, s7
Sweetrip [9d\]: p10 would not be as effective
gejimayu [2d?\]: time to invade
Jermelle [?\]: 3-3
glasszee [3k\]: wow b l12 after this would be devastating
feeldabern [4d\]: after s7 then black has p2 somewhat sente was \
a reason given
Kolie34A: can white invade on top anymore?
Blindspot [1d\]: g9
danielhast [?\]: S17 reduction is big
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Hmmm, left commentator says black probably \
sees a way to win and it's just checking all the boxes now... \
but Michael Redmond didn't really take to the idea
BobWhoosta [2d\]: F11 was pretty nice locally.
cxcv: black L12
Sabbaticus [6k\]: who's winning, by the way?]

;W[gk]
C[mement: where is next hand
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Maybe Redmond believes game is still up in \
the air
trippin [2k\]: i don't think q5 -> p10 -> p7 was read from the \
beginning no way
blau3: CHAAARGE
rsun [-\]: time for kami no itte
Kountch [1k\]: Does F11 defend G17?
Moshudan [3d\]: like in the first game, sedol doesn't find the \
time to invade Alpha's framework
eatramen [?\]: R10 like moe incoming?
kaliya [-\]: W R17
js13 [1k\]: b is in trouble 
eatramen [?\]: *move
trippin [2k\]: more like p10 became more probably after q5 already \
existed
glasszee [3k\]: leggo g9 
hondra [1d?\]: b is fine
njs [1d\]: Guys
Eternal6k [6k?\]: H7
njs [1d\]: If white can kill this whole thing
Codexus [7k?\]: more like robotto no itte
Jermelle [?\]: bot played h7
njs [1d\]: Its gg
Kolie34A: f9
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: trippin - It's possible, what do you think \
pros spend 15-30 minutes on each fuseki move for? :)
njs [1d\]: I have a feeling black will play h7
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Lol
trippin [2k\]: perhaps
Sachan [?\]: did a minute ago
Kolie34A: maybe
helioxxx: why does w not attacking?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: trippin - AlphaGo can't predict everything \
perfectly, but surely it can read a bunch of likely possibilities \
in different areas of the board and see how they interact, and \
then make move 1 and 3 and 5 moves accordingly
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Using the force h7.]
;B[hm];W[in]
C[Moshudan [3d\]: @heliox : this is attacking
Kolie34A: responding so fast?
helioxxx: yeh i told thta to myself when i published it x)
icecream99 [1d?\]: s15 seems kind of slow
helioxxx: thanks tho
cxcv: L12 go go go
icecream99 [1d?\]: w so strong there
kadoban [?\]: I'm sure he's already read this out, h7 was a pretty \
obvious move to look at I think.
Kountch [1k\]: All is shape for humans
goren22 [2k\]: h8
Kolie34A: why l12
Azal [2d\]: L12 for b seems huge
Tictactoe [-\]: timing of the moves isn't acurate, i have a cat \
you know
threeoone [?\]: B winrate 65%
seattle [1d\]: playing 5 matches is a waste of time, if Alpha \
is at a level it out calculate lee, which from yesterday seems \
that way, then what's the point of 5 matches... 
blau3: quite a concession for B, this H7. W J6 renders the whole \
lower center worthless
rsun [-\]: is redmond from the midwest?]
;B[hl]
C[Trevoke [?\]: rsun: IIRC, yes
Herod [-\]: California
danielhast [?\]: Kim says B is okay right now
oldguy [4d\]: ignore ur cat first tictactoe lol
rsun [-\]: great, I can tell from his accent
Kolie34A: still mv77,I thought it was already 100moves
KobeGote [6k?\]: He talks like he's from the midwest
danielhast [?\]: so I guess neither clearly ahead right now
glasszee [3k\]: this is alphago's first bamboo joint in the lee \
sedol series i believe
Moshudan [3d\]: It is as if sedol doesn't have any use of the \
top. At least some prob would be expected, in order to do sthg \
of this attack
blau3: Huh? W J6 = toothpaste shape now
azblueeyes [8k\]: e10 
kdbaby14 [6k\]: this game is too hard for Lee
heather [1k\]: w peeping at both sides of bamboo
josh858: 65% winrate is a much higher win probability than 65%, \
right?]
;W[ko]
C[GoIngo [?\]: right
njs [1d\]: I knew black would play h7
gejimayu [2d?\]: L5? Why not M3?!
Ilyo: Does Alpha go remind any of you of Takemiya a little bit?
GoIngo [?\]: at 65-70 % things become extreme
Ellyboo [9k\]: ticctactoe, thanks very much for making viewing \
of tthis game possible. much appreciated!
goren22 [2k\]: will b j3?
kdbaby14 [6k\]: will black try to kill all the black on right?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: This is COMPLICATED
kaliya [-\]: Preparing something around O5?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: All of a sudden
danielhast [?\]: Ilyo, Andrew was saying the same
Moshudan [3d\]: @llyo : not at all
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago reminds me of crazystone
USSRMan [3d\]: or mc bots
goren22 [2k\]: or ignor?
Kolie34A: alphago stronger,for sure
cxcv: The bot seems to have swooshed back
USSRMan [3d\]: leaves a lot of unsettled groups, and tenukis a \
lot
kdbaby14 [6k\]: AlphaGo 9p
GoIngo [?\]: crazystone nopw gives 61 % for black
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: So... we will probably find out shortly who \
has the better moves once this gets resolved shortly?
bromeas [2k?\]: alphago  reminds kato
dxxd [1k\]: e14
kdbaby14 [6k\]: next is Iyama Yuuta for kisei title
threeoone [?\]: g6 + g9 both peeping at a bamboo joint, what a \
bad shape
ruby [2d\]: Zen gives 67
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: AlphaGo reminds me of tartrate :)
Codexus [7k?\]: AlphaGo is about 50% mc
njs [1d\]: Tartrate is a human
njs [1d\]: Alphago is a computer
njs [1d\]: GG not similar at all
lofuchi [3k\]: can't b K5?
dfhdff: the bots always like each other
Zombie [-\]: Tartrate is a god
robsclone: this reminds me of some of my first games with my \
very aggressive friend
covert [?\]: tartrate is currently discussing alphago, right? \
P)
dfhdff: winrate doesnt mean much at this point
kaliya [-\]: G9 bad
Ilyo: He doesn't have the same sort of opening, but his use of \
the center and creation of moyo seems kind of similar..
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: njs - Nobody's ever met tartrate in person \
though
njs [1d\]: That's true
GoIngo [?\]: yes, they are incestuive
njs [1d\]: But tartrate is worse than lee sedol
covert [?\]: isn't there a solid rumor as to tartrate's true identity?
Tictactoe [-\]: thank you for mentioning tartrate, but the fairytale \
has ended
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Fairytale ended? How so?
feeldabern [4d\]: we know who tartrate is]

;B[kp]
C[goren22 [2k\]: b m3 actually is the right move no?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Really?]
;W[gc]
C[helioxxx: ENFIN :D
Kolie34A: I hope sedol can win
Moshudan [3d\]: at last !
covert [?\]: invade!
rsun [-\]: smoke
kdbaby14 [6k\]: invade that???
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Awesome!
Kolie34A: invade
huni [?\]: Oh war 
Moshudan [3d\]: @heliox : ^^
Kogolo: go for it !
AnthonyC [3k\]: oh
gejimayu [2d?\]: what was L5-L4 exchange good for?
kdbaby14 [6k\]: he does not have support any side?
rsun [-\]: this game will end soon
kaliya [-\]: Go Sedol!
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: WHAT is black's next move??? Standard move, \
or CREATIVE AI move next??
Ilyo: WOAAAH
BobWhoosta [2d\]: This will be a thing, a big thing, a huge honkin' \
THING!
USSRMan [3d\]: now we see the terminator side of alphago
Trevoke [?\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Tartrate
iskatel [3k\]: banzaaaiii
helioxxx: @Moshudan :D
Ilyo: The invasion!!!
feeldabern [4d\]: game deciding fight
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Thanks Trevoke!
Ilyo: BANZAI!
Maneko [7k\]: OK, finally!
gogonuts [4d\]: deepmind board lagging on the aga channel ...
KBAC [2d\]: b e17
Kolie34A: whats their time now?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: This move has very little risk because if we \
consider the top to be black's already, then white is only testing \
to see where the aji is.
royu [4d\]: "the transistor reddening move" 
kdbaby14 [6k\]: G-15?
USSRMan [3d\]: so incorrect
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Oh, haha, tartrate is literally Kim Myungwan? \
I didn't know. What a coincidence
njs [1d\]: Lee getting desperate
lodestone [4k\]: lol royu
BobWhoosta [2d\]: So this stone at G17, may well die, but if he \
can get forcing moves it will serve a purpose.
rsun [-\]: smoke
helioxxx: lol da response
GoIngo [?\]: what an entertaining game ...
rsun [-\]: d14 - "I win"
Rankachan [6k\]: d14  ...
cxcv: R17 is gaining power
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Wow, AlphaGo thinking hard now!]
;B[df]
C[skillup [5d\]: wow
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Wow, d14.
kaliya [-\]: What!
kdbaby14 [6k\]: wow
Codexus [7k?\]: what?
kdbaby14 [6k\]: this move 
Prime [2k\]: DANG
glasszee [3k\]: b kill all
BobWhoosta [2d\]: "I kill you on a large scale.  Die now in peace, \
and resign."
Rankachan [6k\]: why d14
USSRMan [3d\]: lol completely counter intuitive
kdbaby14 [6k\]: he tries to protect the D-17 peak?
ISH094080 [3k\]: 三小
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Uh oh. Black thinks it can kill or almost kill......
Maneko [7k\]: G15!
Kolie34A: owow
Moshudan [3d\]: alphago attacking on a very large scale.
kdbaby14 [6k\]: he tries to protect D-17 peak?
blau3: Wow, B afraid for his F8 group. W J6 is really shining!
rsun [-\]: w cannot live locally, and b thinks he can profit from \
chasing
kaliya [-\]: Protects against D17
gogonuts [4d\]: b bid to turn the center trash into thickness
Moshudan [3d\]: b not afraid. Attacking on large scale is the \
most ambitious attack
BobWhoosta [2d\]: This is the most amazing move of the game thus \
far.  Deep intuitive move, and quickly played!
cekalo [1k\]: machines dont fear
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I like P10 :)
Trevoke [?\]: BobWhoosta: what about P10?
superpal1 [1d\]: machines sweat
cekalo [1k\]: they have nothing to lose
Kolie34A: because machines don't have feeling
feeldabern [4d\]: when we see d14 we know lee has no chance
Moshudan [3d\]: true. I mean, the meaning of this move is much \
more about attack than about defense, imho
njs [1d\]: White loses
njs [1d\]: no doubyt
njs [1d\]: doubg
njs [1d\]: doubt*
BobWhoosta [2d\]: P10 was great, but it was not like D14 imo.
kdbaby14 [6k\]: I think this move protect the D-17 weakness, and \
it is really hard to W to run to N-12 stones
BobWhoosta [2d\]: It's attacking the G17 stone on the largest \
scale possible.
Uberdude [2d\]: d14 = you are already dead
Komachi [?\]: does white e10 work?
dopingg [11k\]: biggest largest terrain stone 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Interesting, BobWhoosta
rsun [-\]: honestly, w has lost this game
Kolie34A: sedol.....
rsun [-\]: in my humblest opinion
aham [8k\]: why he's playing so bad?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: This is where I would panic and play J18.
kdbaby14 [6k\]: he probably under the stress from yesterday
Azal [2d\]: w will live at the top and b gets moyo ?
Prodigious [-\]: how has w lost this exactly
Sachan [?\]: If Alphago thinks shes winning does she just start \
playing a teaching game?
GoIngo [?\]: a strong opponent lets look you bad
BobWhoosta [2d\]: aham, he's not playing badly, alphago is just \
really good.
adfafdsfaf: if white G17 is killed, then alphago is amazing. \
Didn't even respond to that.
aham [8k\]: g17 is good?
aham [8k\]: now?
LordTushi [9k?\]: Myungwam Kim says G17 lives no matter what happens
BobWhoosta [2d\]: G17 should live.  But D14 is looking to make \
a huge profit while G17 runs.]
;W[id]
C[GoIngo [?\]: crazy stone stable at 59-60 % for black here
Trevoke [?\]: Lee has only seen, by now, 6.7 games by AlphaGo. \
He might have decided to use the first two games as learning \
games where he tests the boundaries of AlphaGo
kdbaby14 [6k\]: oh
Rankachan [6k\]: j16 by lee
kdbaby14 [6k\]: J-16
BobWhoosta [2d\]: D14 says "You can't live locally anyway, so \
I will extend my thickness and let you run".
kdbaby14 [6k\]: he wants to fight to live
gogonuts [4d\]: bansai
adfafdsfaf: lee left the table
dxxd [1k\]: hopely not another attachment fail
USSRMan [3d\]: people seriously underestimated alphago's strength \
by its october games.
Ellyboo [9k\]: and the building
USSRMan [3d\]: not enough sample size
BobWhoosta [2d\]: USSRMan, that is because alphago is better now.
kdbaby14 [6k\]: Lee'll win if he wins this fight]
;B[jc]
C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Pros were pointing out bad moves left and right \
in october.
USSRMan [3d\]: well, it wasnt even playing at its very top level \
in oct
kdbaby14 [6k\]: lol Alpha Go was like... nah, 
gejimayu [2d?\]: W is busy, B solidifies his territory
dfhdff: its not a fight just w living
eatramen [?\]: alpha plays safe
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Oh, USSRMan, because it was always leading?
kdbaby14 [6k\]: alphaGo was like nah...no fighting, i'm ahead
BobWhoosta [2d\]: So it chose the safe approach, which seemed \
slack?
fengitreon [2k\]: interesting
DrSFBrains [1k\]: Wow.  Looks very scary for W...
Prime [2k\]: maybe probe the corner?
blau3: W F14 kikashi?
DrSFBrains [1k\]: G17 is very lonely
BobWhoosta [2d\]: G15 looks natural.
Kolie34A: don't abandon!
Moshudan [3d\]: is there an agreement that b is winning ? I don't \
think so
hondra [1d?\]: b putting on a clinic on how to handle invasions \
like that
rsun [-\]: lee sedol smokes
kaliya [-\]: I bet that Alpha will F17 later
njs [1d\]: Lee has to live
Aram [3k\]: They trained Alphago from scratch in about 7 weeks \
according to the scientific paper they published, since those \
games they've had 16 weeks mroe. Of course it's going to be stronger \
now and will make less bad mistakes
Ellyboo [9k\]: G17 was 10k stone
feeldabern [4d\]: i agreed with myself that b is winnning
USSRMan [3d\]: d14 was too calm of a response to an invasion 
kdbaby14 [6k\]: will G-15 sufficient support?
Jacksuji [3k\]: AlphaGo was much weaker in Oct. Fan actually played \
10 games with it, 5 official, 5 unofficial games between them. \
Fan won 2 of the unofficial games.
rsun [-\]: if lee doesn't smoke, why is his game smoking so bad
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Interesting break discussion from Redmond
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Stuff you don't hear about often
lemur [9k?\]: The scariest part is that this isn't even AlphaGo's \
final form
lemur [9k?\]: Lee is playing the single machine version at the \
moment
Sachan [?\]: the unofficial games were also fast games werent \
they?
goren22 [2k\]: there is no final version of alphago
liptos [3k\]: ah, yea 7 weeks to beat fan hui means 16 more weeks \
could mean vast improvement
Aram [3k\]: the "single machine" is 48 cpu cores and 8 GPUs
josh858: are you sure? he's not playing the 1200 cpu version?
Uberdude [2d\]: no he isnt lemur
lemur [9k?\]: There's a multiple machine version that has a 77% \
win rate vs the single machine version
Aram [3k\]: so not very single...
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Redmond says 3-3 still a big invasion concern
Kolie34A: how can they make alphago that strong
Doli [7k?\]: Its ELO level is over 9000!
Aram [3k\]: and its strength drop something like 6-7 stones if \
you moved alphago to 1 GPU instead of 8 GPUs, even when having \
48 cpu cores
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Wow, lemur
josh858: fan hui played the 1200 cpu version
Fumbar [17k\]: i thought this was distributed?
kdbaby14 [6k\]: it seems stronger than yesterday
Aram [3k\]: fan hui played the single computer one
cxcv: c12 exchange is on the spot
njs [1d\]: g14
LoneStar [3d\]: so dudes whos winning atm, for me it seems b is \
in the lead like by 4.5 ?
Goceman86 [-\]: whos winning at this point?
njs [1d\]: g14
Fumbar [17k\]: no he did not
njs [1d\]: g15*
Aram [3k\]: according to the paper in nature
Uberdude [2d\]: no aram
dfhdff: w win
Fumbar [17k\]: i do not think fan hui played the non distributed \
version
robsclone: w is strong base, but not in battle
Aram [3k\]: uberdude, no what?
Uberdude [2d\]: both pro games are with disstributed
Tictactoe [-\]: guys please refrain from spam-messages, there \
are many lectures online available about alphago
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Goceman - People say the AI is winning, but \
Sedol is smart too and it isn't that obvious yet probably
Prime [2k\]: spam
Uberdude [2d\]: no fan hui did not play the single machine one
Moshudan [3d\]: who are "people", xijin ?
dfhdff: keep in mind w has sente this move
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Moshu - People in this kibbitz
blau3: question: remaining time for both (I can't see the streams)?
Moshudan [3d\]: lol. I'm not !
fengitreon [2k\]: moshi moshi
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Moshu - Correct me if I'm mischaracterizing \
:)
Trevoke [?\]: Lee Sedol 40 minutes, AlphaGo 70 minutes
Aram [3k\]: ah, i stand corrected, you're right Uberdude
Codexus [7k?\]: LSD already used 30 min more than AG
goren22 [2k\]: people in this kibbitz are basically woodpushers, \
if you adopt chess terminology
farmshare [9k\]: so if g17 dies, then lee loses?
Kolie34A: 83 moves now
heather [1k\]: not sure that white wins even if it lives
Aram [3k\]: So over 1000 cores and 200 gpus
cxcv: ko fight is coming..
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I wonder if AlphaGo can suddenly use LOTS of \
time on a key move or not.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yes goren, and hopefully we will push with somewhat \
more accurate, more like children with markers instead of crayons.
Moshudan [3d\]: ^^ . People here are fine but i'd like to have \
pro's opinions
kadoban [?\]: It has before in the last game, used lots of time \
on some moves
cxcv: the soft underbelly of AI
BobWhoosta [2d\]: One day we will become finger painters, although \
none will participate in a masterpiece such as this game.
BongoBob [-\]: I don't think alphago cares much about time as \
it does about probability for a win
Bursar [1d\]: G15 Jump
JohnNothaf [23k\]: there is abyo yomi right?
LoneStar [3d\]: i just dont think lee has enough resources to \
overcome the series of good moves from this tireless machine
Bursar [1d\]: ~~~~ G15 ~~~
kadoban [?\]: Yeah, byoyomi is 3x60s
jimmyl97 [2d?\]: where is lee
BobWhoosta [2d\]: 3 x 1 min byo yomi.
Bursar [1d\]: ~~~ G15 please ~~~~
USSRMan [3d\]: Maybe facebook will create a rival for AlphaGo
EOC: G15
Ilyo: G15..
herp [-\]: lol facebook
EOC: played
njs [1d\]: g15
Goceman86 [-\]: apple gotta make it
hemster [-\]: fair game would need to be 4 hours each side at \
least
USSRMan [3d\]: AlphaGo vs DarkForrest2026]

;W[ge]
C[Moshudan [3d\]: i believe b lost points aroung g5, while white \
move seem fine. So i think w should be OK
Kolie34A: bot vs bot
farmshare [9k\]: fb's ai is... really behind from what my friends \
said 
njs [1d\]: white has to live
Kolie34A: 2026?
USSRMan [3d\]: OmegaGo vs DarkForrest2026 maybe
mark: facebook's bot plays on KGS, i thought
robsclone: what is this attack going for?
goren22 [2k\]: in the facebook version you'll have to update your \
status every 5 moves
BobWhoosta [2d\]: R17 still has a lot of aji, it should be easily \
reduced, so if white lives here black will be short on territory.
julbla [4k\]: d13
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha goren
USSRMan [3d\]: AlphaGo will 5-0 sweep Lee Sedol
robsclone: D13: expected....just, later
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: And log your location using 4-4 Square ;)
hemster [-\]: is Lee sedol the gutsiest man alive?
Sachan [?\]: g16 Id love to see even if its not good]
;B[dg]
C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: J14 seems natural for black now.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Ah, after this exchange.
LoneStar [3d\]: yeah i think the time remaining for lee would \
play a very important role for the result of this game
robsclone: ouch
Sachan [?\]: interesting move from alphago
JohnNothaf [23k\]: I bet if the AI had a person that was able \
to give it some minor direction, it would be great, with decisions \
of aggression, or defense, or allowing it to take mroe time for \
a play. A Cyborg player would be amazing
oonicks: ..
Kolie34A: Actually i couldn't see sedol play some very bad move \
in this game
Long [?\]: alphago play like chitoku
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: John - Maybe a human would only hold it back \
from its full strength
cxcv: J14 looks evil
USSRMan [3d\]: D13 is so calm 
JohnNothaf [23k\]: that's true as well
USSRMan [3d\]: not worried about invasion at all
Sabbaticus [6k\]: Better than a cyborg, I think AlphaGo should \
just go full human, and the 23 GPU become, like 23 people all \
slaved together in a tank
Sabbaticus [6k\]: It would be like the Matrix, man
Moshudan [3d\]: D12 or C12 ? This is the kind of move i never \
know how to play
blau3: W must feel very reluctant to response -- might even sacrifice \
his LHS group and go for a trade
oonicks: it is not really fair this is such a short match is \
it? imho a human needs a few hours to beat immense voltage
JohnNothaf [23k\]: i would think the hane
robsclone: hmm
robsclone: Kim "...don't feel good"
cxcv: c12 seems better for me..d12 leaves B13 for white
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: oonicks - The computer gets more thinking time \
too, then... and it will use it
BongoBob [-\]: oonicks, the human should just stay positive and \
in the flow.
LoneStar [3d\]: b14
oonicks: that is what you think but i have seen it does not need \
its time
BongoBob [-\]: so he can keep moving
GoIngo [?\]: Lee Sedol running down on time]
;W[cf]
C[Ephidel [1k\]: whoaa
sprouts [1d\]: Hi dad
Ephidel [1k\]: bold move!!!
robsclone: where are our rulings on "relativity-enhancing architecture"
Kolie34A: sedol thinks for a longer time in this game than the \
last game
oonicks: thx that is interesting
LoneStar [3d\]: haro sonny
blau3: This appears to reinforce the W D17 threat
Ellyboo [9k\]: google will issue dan certificates in future
njs [1d\]: c14 omg
superpal1 [1d\]: redmond seems to be supporting LSD
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Lol Ellyboo
LoneStar [3d\]: have u got enough bean sprout today?]
;B[ch]
C[goren22 [2k\]: c15 iss still sente, so b will unleash after c15, \
d12
robsclone: it's a few points, right
Moshudan [3d\]: C12 and w sacrifice ?
Sachan [?\]: c12 hahah
Moshudan [3d\]: oh
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: C12 huh]
;W[bh]
C[robsclone: ooooo, c12
robsclone: wtf
wolvie [?\]: huh.
robsclone: er, hmm.
Moshudan [3d\]: no sacrifice
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Ohhhhhh white played DIFFERENT from what Michael \
Redmond predicted
Moshudan [3d\]: what did he predict ?
Rephos [23k\]: poor lee
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: wD8 I think unless I missed what he was explaining]

;B[dh];W[bi]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Maybe I missed what he was saying actually
USSRMan [3d\]: i think g17 will die
gejimayu [2d?\]: are there pros who want to be the next challenger \
of alphago?
oonicks: the half point
USSRMan [3d\]: we will see AlphaGo's talent at killing
AnthonyC [3k\]: ke jie
Jazzman [1d\]: probably g17 already dead
LoneStar [3d\]: michael redmond commentary commentary is a lot \
nicer to listen than myungwan kims for sure
Moshudan [3d\]: wd8 ? you really missed it, i guess ^^
USSRMan [3d\]: its a terminator that destroys all invaders
BongoBob [-\]: Michael redmond makes for a fine commentator
kaliya [-\]: I'd prefer seeing Ke Jie playing AlphaGo
Ellyboo [9k\]: time to call alpha go honinbo
blau3: now B L14 or K14 or so?
Kolie34A: Will lee sedol get money after winnig this game?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: LoneStar - Yeah....... that's why I'm on Redmond, \
it's decent commentary and very very nice background noise for \
the game too
GoIngo [?\]: without semeai and ko-fights white will not survive \
this
Azal [2d\]: b going for the kill?
BongoBob [-\]: Tengen Honinbo Alphago
JohnNothaf [23k\]: kim almost rambles too much for mw
adfafdsfaf: Kim:Chance of LS winning less than 50/50.
Moshudan [3d\]: Kejie and Sedol difference is so small. Ke jie \
won for a matter of rules in their last game
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Hahahaha BongoBob]
;B[hd]
C[Trevoke [?\]: I think one of the key differences is that Kim and \
the ... Caucasian presenter?, well, in any case, these two are \
teacher and students, so their banter is fairly specific to them, \
not really meant to be broadcast
adfafdsfaf: H16!
kaliya [-\]: Ke Jie dominated Li Sedol in their last game
kadoban [?\]: Andrew Jackson
oonicks: zen still doesnt play that move;)?
Kolie34A: ohh
Sabbaticus [6k\]: Somebody plays too much chess (!) (!) (!) 
ingen [?\]: why can't I go back over old moves?
USSRMan [3d\]: Ke Jie is not much better than Lee Sedol
AnthonyC [3k\]: ke jie is 8-2 against lee though
eatramen [?\]: lee using a lot of time
dartagaluc [3d\]: I count black 55 , white 38
USSRMan [3d\]: too small sample size
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: ingen - Hit OPTIONS --> "Clone Game" and then \
you can go back and forth. 
ArcticDawn [6k\]: wow right in the middle of white stones!!
ingen [?\]: thanks !
dartagaluc [3d\]: Black influence
crate [?\]: lol drop and catch
dartagaluc [3d\]: White komi
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: ingen - Or hit OPTIONS --> "View Offline", \
same thing for your purposes
BongoBob [-\]: h4 is the doghead's shape point
ArcticDawn [6k\]: how accurate is SE right now?
BongoBob [-\]: h16*
ArcticDawn [6k\]: SE so roboist
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: ArcticDawn - SE totally wrong
dfhdff: b leading 40+
Ahamay [7d?\]: While Ke Jie is clearly stronger at this moment, \
Lee absolutely deserved the honor to play first
dfhdff: its right
profan [-\]: can w sacrifice g15 and live in corner?
robsclone: how?]
;W[he]
C[ingen [?\]: thanks Chairman!  yea, haven't been on KGS since 2004.. \
had to remake my account O_O
pCeitin [2k\]: SE just has a crush on AplhaGo
GoIngo [?\]: agree ahamay
Kolie34A: b+15
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: ingen - I haven't been here in like 5 years. \
Made a new account a week or two ago :)
TheWolf [2d\]: is there a live commentary for advanced players \
on youtube? 
Moshudan [3d\]: @profan : yes, i was thinking the same. But b \
center will get huge
eatramen [?\]: SE is also AI
grolich [-\]: SE's true name should be "Stochastic excrement"... \
I wouldn't trust it  :P :)
Uberdude [2d\]: thewolf
robsclone: ooo, i like b center
enki [?\]: who is ahead?
Uberdude [2d\]: https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s&feature=live-chat-promo
robsclone: dangit
cxcv: Gu Li suggested the bot move J14 :o
kaliya [-\]: Black plays first, and White, the stronger one, plays \
second
robsclone: @enki balanced game]
;B[gd]
C[USSRMan [3d\]: what the
Moshudan [3d\]: exchange
GoIngo [?\]: g16 expected by other bot
Kolie34A: alpha.........
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Such and interesting game.
TheWolf [2d\]: Thx Uberdude
Ellyboo [9k\]: obvious]

;W[fd]
C[kaji82 [3k\]: no chace for Lee
ArcticDawn [6k\]: H17?
oonicks: this is quite beautifull both:)
dopingg [11k\]: w has to kill upper left corner or f8
Ellyboo [9k\]: white dies
robsclone: Kim has good stuff right now
Sachan [?\]: h17 is obvs yeah
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: It must be weird to be sitting at the board \
with another person, except the other person isn't playing aginst \
you or thinking or anything... he's just relaying moves from \
the computer to the board
profan [-\]: what about pro commentary did Lee Plaay a wrong move?
ArcticDawn [6k\]: haha yeah Xijinping]
;B[hc]
C[BongoBob [-\]: I doubt the operator for Alphago is not thinking \
about the game.
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Lee Sedol hasn't made any big mistakes this \
game that I've heard
GoIngo [?\]: sorry, the operator of alphago is strong amateur
Kolie34A: 1K?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha GoIngo
azblueeyes [8k\]: wow china pro think w good now
KobeGote [6k?\]: Aja is going to pull a Hikaru and take over the \
game
Sabbaticus [6k\]: No Go.
robsclone: didn't somebody just call H17?
kaliya [-\]: What if due to a bug, Alpha plays F4
farmshare [9k\]: @Kobe: I hope he does. I have $60 on Lee for \
the series
Moshudan [3d\]: white has been good since g5's fight
BongoBob [-\]: didn't watch the first game, but apparently when \
Alphago made a real strong move, the operator did put a lot of \
extra snap into the move
blau3: Give Aja some blond bangs ;-)
LoneStar [3d\]: a lot of uncertainties in the centre , and alphagoo \
gets better as the games go deeper , thus i predict this game \
will bethe 2nd win for alphago 
adfafdsfaf: @farmshare you are going to lose your money
kaji82 [3k\]: can g15 group live ?
farmshare [9k\]: I made this bet in January.]
;W[fe]
C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: White seems to be doing well now.
Eternal6k [6k?\]: F15
robsclone: i'm digging white
trippin [2k\]: frisky
robsclone: deep
azblueeyes [8k\]: farmshare....how did you hear about al;phago \
in Jnauary?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: If black E17, then K14?
skillup [5d\]: black is really kyuish
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Because F17 seems heavy.]
;B[ec]
C[royu [4d\]: i would love to see b e17 here..
Kolie34A: getting the corner?
royu [4d\]: whoa
oonicks: really kyuish it is w -2
skillup [5d\]: lol..
BobWhoosta [2d\]: This seems to be the most natural move.
Anubis53 [1k\]: w in trouble
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Taking the base of the white group.
goren22 [2k\]: w m15
royu [4d\]: this is one of those feelings when AI knows it can \
kill all
GoIngo [?\]: crazystone giving 62 % for Black now
kaji82 [3k\]: White seems dead
Ilyo: center now?
farmshare [9k\]: alphago was publicized since last october...
Trevoke [?\]: I kinda like Redmond going "See, if I were AlphaGo, \
I'd play E17 .... Oh, AlphaGo played E17, see, that's a good \
move."
Trevoke [?\]: :D
profan [-\]: seems that alphago declared slam
cekalo [1k\]: j13
robsclone: ohi wouldn't say dead
oonicks: unless he can find 16 pts f17 looks ok
blau3: Now we have three huge endgames left: F17, R17, and R9 \
(or S9 or so)
farmshare [9k\]: also the deep learning community was speculating \
about it since forever
LoneStar [3d\]: dudes , can lee save 1 game from alphago?
Rankachan [6k\]:  Redmond > lee sedol
BobWhoosta [2d\]: F17 gives white a stick in black's influence. \
He needs to get out.
ingen [?\]: AlphaGo is watching Redmond and using his moves
BobWhoosta [2d\]: So K14 area looks best.
Ellyboo [9k\]: redmont vs alphago next
robsclone: lol
Ilyo: Agreed Bob
Ilyo: k14 looks strong
GoIngo [?\]: Lee has to adopt before getting true winniing chances
Trevoke [?\]: You shouldn't underestimate the psychological pressure \
of being the one in front of the board. It's SO EASY to comment.
kaji82 [3k\]: where did you get the winrate of crazystone ?
BigDoug [-\]: that's correct Trevoke
Trevoke [?\]: "so easy" is relative. I'd look like a baboon if \
I had to do 1/10 of what Redmond is doing
GoIngo [?\]: I have crazy stone running
goren22 [2k\]: who does he need to adopt?  a cambodian baby?
GoIngo [?\]: on my laptop
kaji82 [3k\]: ok
Reym [-\]: let's say it's much easier
Ilyo: g12 played
GoIngo [?\]: he has to adopt to specific bot weaknesses]
;W[gh]
C[goren22 [2k\]: adApt
USSRMan [3d\]: This bot has no weakness
BobWhoosta [2d\]: G12 looks nice.
GoIngo [?\]: ok, right ;-)
Kolie34A: bot won't get tired'
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yeah, this bot doesn't play like a bot.
aghartism [?\]: check the se now
Ilyo: It's weakness is water USSRMan
voevius [5k\]: But bot might have high energy bill :-)
BobWhoosta [2d\]: She plays like a top pro, with a lot of exceptionally \
original moves.
Sabbaticus [6k\]: BobWhoosta, what do you mean by that?]

;B[fc]
C[LoneStar [3d\]: how old is redmond san? i think hes been around \
quite for a long
Sabbaticus [6k\]: It plays like a real person?
annago [?\]: To be fair, in the right circumstances water is Sedol's \
weakness too.
ingen [?\]: @LoneStar born in 1963
USSRMan [3d\]: nope bot lives in google cloud
Kolie34A: lol se
Moshudan [3d\]: still the way black handled the invasion is worth \
remembering
USSRMan [3d\]: water cant kill it
farmshare [9k\]: "A computer once beat me in chess, but it was \
no match for me in kickboxing"
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yes Sabbaticus, I cannot tell the difference \
between this bot and a human.
LoneStar [3d\]: thx ingen sir
Ilyo: Sort of Sabb... It plays some odd moves, but they make \
sense..
Kolie34A: world champion bot
oonicks: counts like 4 6 g12 , its pretty scary
profan [-\]: g12 is good but f17 is game over
Sabbaticus [6k\]: That's pretty amazing
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Except for a few moves, and they all have relevance \
to the position.]
;W[gi]
C[Eternal6k [6k?\]: Go Turing passed
Slowmotion [4d\]: the game seems already over for w
Sabbaticus [6k\]: Is it because humans are guiding the bot's development?
Ilyo: idk about that slowmotion
BobWhoosta [2d\]: No, actually they allowed it to learn on its \
own.
Poney [1d\]: Why does everybody says it's over, it looks close \
actually
Ilyo: White is looking a bit better than before. 
Naphthalin [10k?\]: nice, redmond was so sure w would play g11 \
that he just left the demonstration stone there
blau3: Now it's W who is going for center territory... amazing!
BobWhoosta [2d\]: They programmed the potential for a neural network, \
but the bot played itself to learn.
InMedio [10k?\]: could alphago play soccer in a alpha-soccer-team-like-sorta-thing \
?]
;B[ii]
C[Kolie34A: but sedol can't mak much on center
leachy [2k\]: i'm sure, partly because it uses a huge database \
of human games to generate the neural net pattern search parts \
of its algorithm, ie. it is to some extent a mimic for the reason \
that it does actually mimic
Aram [3k\]: the bot was first trained for many weeks before it \
started playing against itself
pCeitin [2k\]: It was a mix between guided and unguided learning
BigDoug [-\]: please stop the random comments and keep the comments \
about the game
oonicks: in general terms, can w do about the right top?
cxcv: wooshhh
kgsgogo: who is leading??
Ilyo: but Sedol can reduce any points alpha is going for in the \
center. 
Naphthalin [10k?\]: only 666 viewers here
LoneStar [3d\]: redmon saying b is winning
kaliya [-\]: J11? Looks on a bigger scale
BobWhoosta [2d\]: BigDoug, are comments about the AI considered \
random?
Poney [1d\]: I'm wondering if W will have the time to play S17
BongoBob [-\]: w still has r17 peep kinda.. but it's a little \
rough
indogo [11k?\]: black more than 10 points
Ilyo: It's rather close kgsgogo
profan [-\]: if black connects w has chance but if black read \
out j11 seems nasty
GoIngo [?\]: crazy stone does not understand j11: costing 4 % \
in its opinion
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Wow, black is attacking all the things.
goren22 [2k\]: man, this is scary for w
Sabbaticus [6k\]: I know, why is it wrong to comment on AI in \
a game against a computer?
Sachan [?\]: michael seems really impressed with this move
USSRMan [3d\]: counter attack?
royu [4d\]: wow, this j11... 
BongoBob [-\]: ouch.
Slowmotion [4d\]: b has more point, no weak group and center potential
Ellyboo [9k\]: black is thinking lee is just hoping for the bell
BobWhoosta [2d\]: This game looks better for black now, yeah.
Azal [2d\]: not sure of j11
royu [4d\]: this j11 is fantastic... so deep
Rankachan [6k\]: j11 = shusaku ear reddening game
LoneStar [3d\]: b has much better feel for centre than any other \
pros
Kolie34A: I think sedol will resign soon if the game go on like \
this
goren22 [2k\]: wonder how lee is gonna take this probable loss...
superpal1 [1d\]: he's used to it
Dom [6d\]: watching this makes me feel like beating Lee Sedol \
is so easy
royu [4d\]: lol superpal 
oonicks: cut it on the head or capture the loose stone
Ellyboo [9k\]: his second must throw in the towel now.
leachy [2k\]: j10 
Dom [6d\]: b didnt even had to read much in this game
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Dom, I know what you mean.
godiva [2k\]: w f10?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: It's surreal.
royu [4d\]: i wonder how Go theory will be in ten years
Ilyo: I feel like black might still have some weakness on the \
left.
Naphthalin [10k?\]: b is analphabet
Cycling [6k?\]: j7
Naphthalin [10k?\]: *an alphabot
Goceman86 [-\]: man that J11 i would be sooo drained after seeing \
that move played against me
goren22 [2k\]: also, when can we buy alphago?  I think many a \
go teacher will end up jobless
Hellhuman [1d?\]: Is b alphago?
feeldabern [4d\]: 2 stone handi next? :S
RyanQu [2d?\]: how much rest time lee have?
candala [2k\]: e10
leachy [2k\]: f10 not sente though
candala [2k\]: f10
m1m [1k\]: j10 is a losing move
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Notice that black conspicuously avoided tengen.
Kolie34A: alphago the best bot ever
yoyoma [2d?\]: There could be a huge trade here...
Doli [7k?\]: 28 minutes
Trevoke [?\]: Lee has 28 minutes left
robsclone: I'm liking this for W
Cycling [6k?\]: hmm k13 on this board
Trevoke [?\]: AlphaGo has 59 minutes left
Dom [6d\]: for sure you cant buy alphago for  long time
Rephos [23k\]: lee 30+ min behind now
wolvie [?\]: 28m for Lee, 59m for AlphaGo
Naphthalin [10k?\]: @ryan: in the first game, alphago needed komi \
to win, so no 2 hc
BobWhoosta [2d\]: So we can conclude that Battousai's games are \
in the database.
leachy [2k\]: j10 leans for attacking h7
robsclone: when do we get to buy our AlphaGo plushie ;) :-p
Sachan [?\]: goren22 alphago wont replace a good teacher, I doubt \
it will be able to do teaching games. There is some merit to \
playing against an opponent that can easily crush you but that \
will only take you so far.
oonicks: did alpha go play tengen last time?
Dom [6d\]: first, just think about how much hardware you need \
if you want to run it
profan [-\]: h9 or similar seems only chance to counter attack \
black now 
Ilyo: lol bob
feeldabern [4d\]: alphago didn't play it's strongest @naph
Hellhuman [1d?\]: What color is LSD?
Sabbaticus [6k\]: Red
DrSFBrains [1k\]: AlphaGo Studied all of the games played by TheCaptain, \
obviously.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: White
leachy [2k\]: lee is white
robsclone: \\i think that we'll realize eventually that AlphaGo's \
play-style is strong but has many weaknesses
Trevoke [?\]: Hellhuman: the KGS game has the info properly configured
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Now white should cut.]
;W[hk]
C[farmshare [9k\]: @Bob: cut at f10?
LoneStar [3d\]: lee gets tired while alpha is gonna get stronger \
from now
farmshare [9k\]: nvm
goren22 [2k\]: also gonna be fun to witness go cheating at the \
top levels
Dom [6d\]: anyway its not a teacher bot, but people so many times \
taking lessons because they are enjoying that a human teaching \
them
Hellhuman [1d?\]: Then teach me how to find this in the mobile \
appp
BobWhoosta [2d\]: That's what I thought, but Lee is preparing \
the cut here.
Hellhuman [1d?\]: Thanks.
Naphthalin [10k?\]: if TTT finds some time, he could add "Lee \
Sedol (white) vs AlphaGo (black)" in the game title
blau3: W  aiming at both F10 and K10
Naphthalin [10k?\]: because android app users can't see the names
Ellyboo [9k\]: how many big weak groups can live?
robsclone: lol, he called that whole right-corner deal too early, \
i guess
kaji82 [3k\]: nice move h9 
KobeGote [6k?\]: Aiming to cut off J11?
oonicks: since this is maybe good i would guess it is good not \
ovcer yet
Ilyo: Yeah it looks like a cute @kobe
shashwat [7k?\]: j9 j8 played
w1nless: who is ahead?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Ellyboo, generally one weak group at a time \
can live.
ingen [?\]: Black
DrSFBrains [1k\]: TheCaptain is winning.
profan [-\]: ù
BongoBob [-\]: lee sedol's face after j11.... I can't even understand \
the emotion that he expressed..
EOC: j9 j8
robsclone: loaded question w1nless
LoneStar [3d\]: teaching professionals wont welcome this machine \
at all for sure ,a lot of them lose their jobs
BobWhoosta [2d\]: It is very hard to kill just one group.  Two \
weak groups, and you will lose something.
oonicks: i didnt count in a long time 
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Or your opponent will gain something big somewhere \
else.
python111: who's leading?
Trevoke [?\]: Hah, Redmond just said "I'm not too sure of myself", \
examining variations on this position.
kadoban [?\]: It may make their jobs easier as well too though \
LoneStar, not that I suspect they'll welcome it immediately.
Rankachan [6k\]: redmond > alphago > lee sedol
Long [?\]: when will  we get home pc version of alphago
BobWhoosta [2d\]: LoneStar, I can't see Alphago replacing teachers \
anytime soon.
Ilyo: j9 played]
;B[ik]
C[profan [-\]: w need to care e10 connection]

;W[il];B[im]
C[Ilyo: j8 played]
;W[ij]
C[Trevoke [?\]: And whoa at the ne new moves
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Even chess programs haven't replaced teachers.
robsclone: hmmmm
kaliya [-\]: Wow the way W came out from the invasion
Tictactoe [-\]: did you mean this naph?
robsclone: skill
Dom [6d\]: lonestar doesnt really understand this topic i think
Jermelle [?\]: tryna make that moyo
KobeGote [6k?\]: Seems like it would be tough to be AlphaGo's \
disciple. How should I improve teacher? Play yourself 1 milliont \
imes.
igoAggie [2k\]: After the j9 hane, w could connect. f10 e10 e11 \
f12 f9 e8 g8 
robsclone: "this is all stuff that AlphaGo is not going to do"
igoAggie [2k\]: Am I missing something?
Sabbaticus [6k\]: Alphago would be your teacher Skynet style, \
I'm sure]
;B[jl];W[jj]
C[oonicks: b is safe in the centre for now my guess is b is ahead
dsaun [-\]: alphago 56 min; lsd 27
RyanQu [2d?\]: maybe W better
goren22 [2k\]: b r16 now for saftey and the win
blau3: B suddenly re-getting chances of quite some lower right \
center territory
Ilyo: w is feeling a bit stronger here, but it seems like this \
is really the only move set left for this scenario..
blau3: in exchange for W's upper center
Moshudan [3d\]: @goren :locally r17 better
kaliya [-\]: W is slightly leading...
j3rry [3k\]: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
skillup [5d\]: l5 is in good position
USSRMan [3d\]: l6?
RyanQu [2d?\]: the only worry is about the time limited
goren22 [2k\]: yeah, that makes sense.  that stops t16 from being \
sente right?]

;B[if]
C[Ilyo: It's been really back and forth it feels.
Trevoke [?\]: j14 
Kolie34A: black is leading 1-5pts
Moshudan [3d\]: yes
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yeah, L5 for L4 is a really nice exchange now.
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Redmond did a quick and dirty count and had \
black leading 1-5 points, but it was still uncertain
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: About 5 min ago
BobWhoosta [2d\]: White still has the cut at F10 for later.
kaliya [-\]: I'm not sure about this peep
DrSFBrains [1k\]: ignore!  Go after the dragon!  Go Cappy style!
RyanQu [2d?\]: who's redmond?
blau3: but F10 not that threatening anymore, now that B's F8 \
group may live on its own
shashwat [7k?\]: 9d professional
marseye [9k\]: I'm wondering if Alphago can be sold for running \
at a decent level with, say, an Intel I7 as it's core. And speculating \
about the pricing...
BobWhoosta [2d\]: The peep makes white heavier, but black shouldn't \
really move out the stones until an opportune moment.
oonicks: called e12
goren22 [2k\]: redmond's like god 
Ilyo: This feels a bit poorly timed doesn't it?
Slowmotion [4d\]: after something like l6 b will close the center
BongoBob [-\]: Redmond is the 9d commentator on the youtube live \
stream
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Drsf caps PR agent
DrSFBrains [1k\]: :)
goren22 [2k\]: 9p not 9d
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Why do they have so many close-ups on Lee Sedol \
deep in concentration but NO close-ups on AlphaGo?
DrSFBrains [1k\]: L7
Rankachan [6k\]: 3p or 9d
Rankachan [6k\]: 9p*
BongoBob [-\]: apologies. 9dan pro :)
DrSFBrains [1k\]: Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!!!
ingen [?\]: @XiJinping2 hahaha that would be great -- just a video \
feed of the server room
kadoban [?\]: They should splice in some stock footage from WarGames \
for alphago
kadoban [?\]: That'd be awesome.
Ilyo: AlphaGo is really Jie at home on kgs.
Trevoke [?\]: My favorite Redmond quote is from a US Go Congress, \
reviewing a dan-game from people at the congress. "See, here, \
you chose the taisha, which is a joseki so complicated that even \
the pros don't understand it."
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha
Slowmotion [4d\]: first play around m10 in sente
Aram [3k\]: marseye, nope, it can't. Google Deepmind did tests, \
on a single computer it runs at 48 cores and 8 gpus, dropping \
to 48 cores and 1 gpu made it loose somethinig like 700 elo ranking \
points.. so a lot. Apparantly the alogrithms it uses are several \
magnitudes slower than traditional go bo tones, so they have \
to have huge parallelism to make it work
annago [?\]: They should have resource usage graphs for Alphago.
Sabbaticus [6k\]: Uh, because AlphaGo's thinking would just look \
like a rainbow unicorn running on repeat
annago [?\]: That's *like* a close-up.
Kolie34A: where should W play now
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Aram - Very interesting
Jumadan [?\]: r17
goren22 [2k\]: imagine alpha go on a supercomputer like crayfish \
or something
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Geez, how do pros learn to count like Redmond \
is doing now???
Ahamay [7d?\]: Any updates on Ke Jie or Gu Li commentaries?
blau3: r17 / r9 miai still looming large, but it still has to \
wait until later
Poney [1d\]: Very complicated setting here
RyanQu [2d?\]: Not very familar with the western go palyers...
Cody [2k\]: Given google's resources, what do you think it's running \
on now goren?
kadoban [?\]: Pros are kind of gods of counting ... it's scary.
adfafdsfaf: Kim: Game 3? That's already over. 
Kolie34A: Does Sedol have enough time to play?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Exactly, kadoban
Eternal6k [6k?\]: W sneezed and the board went flying
RyanQu [2d?\]: Guli is on live in Chinese now
oonicks: called e17 i meant to say< 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I wonder how they practice counting like that
goren22 [2k\]: stated hardware which is nowhere near a supercomputer
rubicon [-\]: omg, is alphago ahead?
SoloWay [3k\]: AlphaGo should write a book, but if it writes, \
there will be not enough time for person to read it
Sachan [?\]: counting isnt that bad, just takes practice
adfafdsfaf: Kim: I am afraid alphago will win all 5 games
josh858: 1202 CPUs isn't a supercomputer?
BobWhoosta [2d\]: "If Lee only made this one mistake, what does \
that say about Game 3??" -Andrew Jackson
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: rubicon - It's close, but 15 minutes ago Redmond \
counted AlphaGo as ahead by 1-5 points... but Redmond said it \
was still up in the air
BobWhoosta [2d\]: "Oh, that's already over." -Myungwan Kim.
DrSFBrains [1k\]: Counting is impossible... Trust me: I am a math \
professor.  :)
rubicon [-\]: kim said B ahead?
darkrmgc [3k\]: yes
Sachan [?\]: l7 
Jumadan [?\]: l7 played
kadoban [?\]: My old club's procedure for correct counting: 1) \
Shutup 2) Count.  But I never seem to be able to manage it correctly.
adfafdsfaf: Kim just thinks that alphago is too good. she will \
win.
DrSFBrains [1k\]: He played my move.  Yay!!!
bitzi [-\]: the chinese stream said this alphago won against fan \
hui with giving handicap (didn't say how many)
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: White played L7 already
R [5d\]: l7 already
Ilyo: I like L7
EOC: Kim says scary for both b and w here
Kolie34A: It's quite difficult to win alphago in this game for \
sedol.
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Tictactoe - L7
hominid: problem of induction is a killer, eh Dr? :)]
;W[km];B[kl];W[lj]
C[Ilyo: Oh hot damn!
oonicks: time
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: DrSFBrains - Lol Michael Redmond just said \
"oh! he played my move" haha
Ilyo: about 20 for lee
Rankachan [6k\]: redmond is awesome
DrSFBrains [1k\]: :)
Ilyo: 50 for alpha
goren22 [2k\]: a supercomputer has like 200000 cpu's btw
python111: W is winning
profan [-\]: big ko in the air?
ingen [?\]: Google has stated that it's quite a fair amount of \
attrition if they added more CPUs and GPUs -- that AlphaGo won't \
obtain much additional strength
ingen [?\]: unless it's a ridiculous amount, of course
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Very interesting, ingen
CloD [?\]: up to slowing down google searches :-)]
;B[lk]
C[kadoban [?\]: Yeah you get pretty bad diminishing returns of course \
for this kind of thing.
hominid: lol. IGS score est: B + 56.5, KGS has B + 0.5. Can we \
have a score estimator tourney?
cxcv: byo-yomi
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Michael Redmond admits to helping AlphaGo cheat \
haha
Kolie34A: lol
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: On live broadcast
Ilyo: There is a good paper talking about the stacking of resources \
in relation to understanding board presence for go, and how it \
has dimenshing returns.
kadoban [?\]: KGS's SE gets lost on the way to the tournament \
and ends up counting chess games instead.]

;W[lo]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Ilyo - Scientific paper or readable paper for \
non-compsci?
BigDoug [-\]: no more SE comments please
kaliya [-\]: What is M5 aiming to?
SIscurge [5d\]: this move?
Ilyo: scientific paper @xiJinping
Prestige [1k?\]: what is SE
BobWhoosta [2d\]: M9 is such a simple yet brilliant move.
USSRMan [3d\]: well m3 open
goren22 [2k\]: threatens m3?
lodestone [4k\]: threatens m3
LoneStar [3d\]: o2
USSRMan [3d\]: but kind of small
BongoBob [-\]: SE = Score Estimator
RyanQu [2d?\]: I heard the Korean said alphago played like Lee \
Changho
DrSFBrains [1k\]: SE = Score eradicator
oonicks: alphago is very compliant i think now i want to see \
the fuseki:)
Azal [2d\]: remember.. that AG plays the safest win awnser against \
the oponent, not the best 
goren22 [2k\]: or even m2
USSRMan [3d\]: he plays very calm like lee changho imo
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Is Lee Changho still playing in the pro series?
LoneStar [3d\]: i bet my house on O2 for the next move
Kolie34A: black will win
cxcv: SE= super einstein
bitzi [-\]: ke jie said it's over already, black won :p
kdbaby14 [6k\]: Lee sedol reduces the gap
goren22 [2k\]: I say p2
kadoban [?\]: Really bitzi?
kaliya [-\]: Really Ke Jie said that?
bitzi [-\]: yes on the chinese stream
Rankachan [6k\]: gg
eatramen [?\]: is ke jie's vision that amazing?
RyanQu [2d?\]: Ke jie on the air? Which platform
Ellyboo [9k\]: J5
profan [-\]: o2 r9 ?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: bM11 o_o
bitzi [-\]: http://sports.letv.com/match/122342003.html#live/1020160303211940
storn [2k\]: Sedol white?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Yes, storn
Ilyo: yes storn]
;B[li]
C[storn [2k\]: Thx
Jazzman [1d\]: Lonestar, please move out :)
Isla [?\]: wow]
;W[kj]
C[miai [1d\]: yes storm
jugi: no rasis storn
BobWhoosta [2d\]: To even see AlphaGo play like this, it's so \
amazing.
Sachan [?\]: m12 
Ilyo: White is feeling a bit hopeless now..
blau3: this feels like two expert swordsmen fighting near an \
abyss
LoneStar [3d\]: lee should try real amateur style jus to test \
the machine if all other professional style play dont stand a \
chance vs alphago  hehe
USSRMan [3d\]: this is overly aggressive
USSRMan [3d\]: black is behind actually
danielhast [?\]: Kim says it's very close
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yeah, this move is very aggressive USSRMan.
EOC: kim having trouble counting
GoIngo [?\]: crazystone at 65 % for black now
goren22 [2k\]: again, this match doesn't matter.  In 5 months \
more, no matter the result here, Alpha will be the ultimate player \
on earth.  Just a question of months
Naphthalin [10k?\]: i hope lsd will do white manego
Ilyo: What makes you think that Goren?
Prestige [1k?\]: i see chance for lee
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Basically, goren
kaliya [-\]: Yeah Goren bud I'd love to hurt Google's ego
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Just like Deep Blue
BobWhoosta [2d\]: goren, this match matters because the point \
at which the A.I. surpasses all human ability should be catelouged.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: It's historic.
Azal [2d\]: goren it's 1 million match :P
hutian [4k\]: who will win?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: kaliya - If Google loses, maybe Facebook will \
win
BobWhoosta [2d\]: hutian, it is so close right now...
Sachan [?\]: if google loses now, betago will win later
kaliya [-\]: I'd prefer Facebook :)
goren22 [2k\]: sure, but the ultimate idea - man vs machine - \
is basically lost for humans with such an evolving and adapting \
program]
;B[ci]
C[goren22 [2k\]: which accomplished, according to pros, so much \
in a few short months
BongoBob [-\]: but even machine will lose vs entropy in the end.
oonicks: mayb lee sedol wins, it seems to me that alphago is \
still sensitive to tunnelvision, perhaps it is a professional \
affliction;)
kaliya [-\]: Lol BongoBob
Ilyo: AlphaGo is probably getting near the limit of deminishing \
returns on learning.
Dom [6d\]: the next would be more interesting with 2 handi
BongoBob [-\]: but nobody writes books about the theme of machine \
vs entropy
Dom [6d\]: next game*
Prestige [1k?\]: deminishing returns on learning lol !!!
goren22 [2k\]: check out neutron decay if you want to understand \
where it's all going, Bong]
;W[cj]
C[Slowmotion [4d\]: pls let kie jie plays the other games
USSRMan [3d\]: Someday, lee will take 2 stones from alphago
KurataSan [3d\]: b is leading
Hoshiman [2k?\]: Isaac Asimov wrote that
wolvie [?\]: It may be diminishing gains, but gains nonetheless
Ilyo: Neural networks tend to trend downward exponentially, there \
are some great papers which talk about this issue. 
BongoBob [-\]: will do, goren
Dom [6d\]: or lyama
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: goren - You mean proton decay. Free neutrons \
decay after like 12 minutes :P
kaliya [-\]: I'd expect B J5 instead
kookkokf: next game alpha go will pass 9 times in the beginning
eatramen [?\]: iyama doesn't perform well outside of Japan
goren22 [2k\]: yeah, proton decay.  my bad
Dom [6d\]: but Ishida would win easily :)
WinPooh [3k\]: Even black holes decay
Dom [6d\]: its about style
Naphthalin [10k?\]: only hot ones
Naphthalin [10k?\]: @win
cxcv: I think 3 stones is the maximum that the God of Go can \
give to a top human player.
Eternal6k [6k?\]: So if Lee sedol takes 2 stones it mean he 8p \
or AG 10p?
Naphthalin [10k?\]: why should he take 2 stones? game yesterday \
was within komi
kadoban [?\]: That's not really how pro ranks work
LoneStar [3d\]: w should play a very good yose game to make this \
gme close, and lee is running out of time , dudes , this is over
EOC: kim says "hmm.. complicated"
Eternal6k [6k?\]: IF
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: cxcv - That's an interesting concept. How many \
handicap stones would a perfect go computer have to give the \
top human for a close-to-even game?
Dead [1k\]: is black ahead
Dead [1k\]: ?
oonicks: funny:) sort of an opposite endgame pointer
Ilyo: What's perfect xijinping?]

;B[mj]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Ilyo - Solved go, or similar
aitkensam [-\]: can anyone say what crazystone evaluation is currently?
Eilinen [-\]: Pardon, but who is this Kim some of you guys been \
refering to?
KobeGote [6k?\]: Kim = Myungwan Kim, doing the AGA broadcast
ingen [?\]: Kim is 9p on another stream
Trevoke [?\]: Myoungwan Kim, most likely, the commenter here: \
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s&feature=live-chat-promo
danielhast [?\]: Kim says it's too close to predict who will win
Trevoke [?\]: oops: Myungwan. Sorry.
cxcv: Assume there was really a case that the God of Go existed \
and he could see through everything
azblueeyes [8k\]: Elinen , myungwankim is commenting on aga youtube \
site
LoneStar [3d\]: myung kim is the match made in heaven for andrew \
jckson 
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Lee Sedol will grow as a player through playing \
AlphaGo.
azblueeyes [8k\]: 9dan pro
EOC: kim shocked by n10
Prestige [1k?\]: sai
Garp [11k\]: XiJinping2 : I read pro says it to be 2-3 stones
USSRMan [3d\]: no lee sedol will retire because of alphago
kookkokf: yi sedol wanted to retire anyway
cxcv: But the question goes too deep and somehow it becomes philosophical
oonicks: there is a proverb for the n10 :)
GoIngo [?\]: Lee sedol will join DeepMind team
Eternal6k [6k?\]: He's coming to America
usaocean: yeah, hope this doesn't affect his actual tournament \
play
heather [1k\]: does andrew jackson play on kgs?
GoIngo [?\]: in their preparatin for Ke Jie
Garp [11k\]: cxcv : "perfect game" exists (theorem in game thory, \
pretty general, apply here).
Reym [-\]: Bob is right
Ellyboo [9k\]: pity to retire on a losing streak
shashwat [7k?\]: this isn't toya vs sai. sedol will want to play \
more through this game
goren22 [2k\]: Lee will tackle chess and bridge next, accroding \
to his stament
dfhdff: bridge?
dfhdff: lol
Ilyo: bridge?
Codexus [7k?\]: sudoku
BongoBob [-\]: How about a nice game of thermonuclear war?
kaliya [-\]: Probably Lee could tackle Janggi
Ellyboo [9k\]: Ludo?
goalie [13k?\]: can center w die ?
WinPooh [3k\]: There was ancient Chinese pro who was 13 dan... \
Can't remember name
Doli [7k?\]: Time to commit sudoku now.
Reym [-\]: alphago will tell aya, now i'll disappear so you can \
get stronger by yourself, and some will cry
Trevoke [?\]: Huang Longshi ?
WinPooh [3k\]: Yes
kadoban [?\]: Lol reym
Ilyo: "baduk star Lee Sedol says he is off to master the game \
of basketball"
storn [2k\]: Hey, Lee! Othello waits!
Trevoke [?\]: He and Dosaku are generally regarded as "the strongest \
Go players yet".
heather [1k\]: basketball isn't fair, there's no komi
profan [-\]: Lasker was good at bridge and go also
Trevoke [?\]: Lee Sedol is down to 16 minutes.
Krithalith: wow lol
ingen [?\]: AlphaGo new solitaire champion]
;W[nr]
C[USSRMan [3d\]: 5-0 sweep and lee will retire
GoIngo [?\]: basket ball has komi: higher baskets ;-)
hemster [-\]: 2 hr too short for human for sure
WinPooh [3k\]: Plus Shusaku and Go Seigen 
Tictactoe [-\]: Dr. Emmanual Lasker indeed
hemster [-\]: make it 9 hrs series then we're talking
LoneStar [3d\]: 5 straight is much more exciting than go
Ilyo: Kim dropped the bomb
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Huang Longshi was the name of the chinese "13 \
dan", so named by Go Seigen.
Morkrumbo [12k\]: is this their first game?
Trevoke [?\]: Redmond saving face "I did see it! This is just \
harder to explain!" :D
Ilyo: second
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Redmond says 2hrs is norm for modern go
storn [2k\]: 6.5cm komi
ingen [?\]: Komi is 7.5
kookkokf: 7.5!
goren22 [2k\]: just n3?
Morkrumbo [12k\]: did AlphaGo win the first?
Ilyo: yes
BongoBob [-\]: Mork, yes
robsclone: yep
Moshudan [3d\]: where can we find the games of Huang Longshi ?
SIscurge [5d\]: w can connect through F10
Trevoke [?\]: Morkrumbo: this is game two. Game 1 can be found \
here: https://gogameguru.com/alphago-defeats-lee-sedol-game-1/
storn [2k\]: Ok. 7.5cm basketball komi)
Tictactoe [-\]: in my game profile i will store them
Morkrumbo [12k\]: thanks Trevoke
cxcv: Is the white dragon at centre alive yet?
oonicks:  i would rather have all the time i wanted if i played \
it
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Moshudan, I've only seen one, on gocommentaries \
on youtube.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Very fun game.
Codexus [7k?\]: lee shaking there
ingen [?\]: "Chris, are you paying attention?" lol
RedLeaf [5d\]: who is the man placing the stones for AlphaGo?]
;B[mr];W[lq]
C[eatramen [?\]: aja huang
GoIngo [?\]: not fun, but entertining
BobWhoosta [2d\]: And btw, if you turn on youtube close caption, \
you won't be able to stop laughing.
Moshudan [3d\]: Ouch...
oonicks: yeah its a good moves again
RedLeaf [5d\]: i see, thanks eatramen
LoneStar [3d\]: p2
eatramen [?\]: yw
Trevoke [?\]: I have some Huang Longshi SGF available here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/648fhm9ctoagi6w/AABt9gYFDc93XZm2SSFq1yK_a?dl=0
skillup [5d\]: go p2
LoneStar [3d\]: i bet my cottage on p2 for the next move
Ilyo: "And then he just let alpha go.... do whatever it is alpha \
go does" ~ Kim
Moshudan [3d\]: is the loss on the corner more than the gain in \
the side ?
ohiioi: who is ahead ?
Tictactoe [-\]: hard to say who leads
danielhast [?\]: Kim says it's very dangerous for W center group
shashwat [7k?\]: who's the other dude talking to mtungwan kim?
USSRMan [3d\]: just m4
Ilyo: black by the way Kim is talking
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Yeah, too much unsettled right now to count.
storn [2k\]: Friendship will win
goren22 [2k\]: you already lost your house Lone
kadoban [?\]: That's andrew jackson
RyanQu [2d?\]: I like to play W
kaliya [-\]: Here I would like to be W
oonicks: purely in theory it is on the wrong side of the equation \
the corner
NinjaSpin [2k?\]: P2
oonicks: but its very small
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago doing some deep computation on which move \
is more valuable
eatramen [?\]: tenuki
EOC2: m4 n3 played
eatramen [?\]: 100%
Ilyo: Kim in a nutshell "I need to count"]
;B[lp]
C[kaliya [-\]: B M12]

;W[mq]
C[Moshudan [3d\]: @trevoke : ty. I'm trying to get them but dropbox \
is not good to access in China
USSRMan [3d\]: yeah this is standard
superpal1 [1d\]: only 705 obs today]
;B[np];W[lr]
C[Trevoke [?\]: Moshudan - give me a minute
Adin [1k\]: is there a live stream on youtube with kim?
kookkokf: only half of kgs
danielhast [?\]: Kim says B wins if she takes G15 group
oonicks: i only read about it before , and untill today i actually \
thought lee seedol would win
goren22 [2k\]: now b f10 and goodbye
covert [?\]: adin1k: search for AGA Youtube Channel
covert [?\]: and you'll find Kim's commentary
Moshudan [3d\]: trevoke : as much time as you want ^^
Ilyo: Kim's commentary is my favorite.
cxcv: black's critical move
BobWhoosta [2d\]: F10 for white is really good, gets a nice hane \
in sente to help settle the middle stones.
Becubio [3k\]: this will be the move of b
LoneStar [3d\]: why kim refer alpha s  a female  all the time \
, its not right
Ilyo: Andrew does as well
Ellyboo [9k\]: becuse she is winning
kaliya [-\]: I noticed that many korean baduk books translated \
into English, report black as she and white as she
RyanQu [2d?\]: how to settle down the middle area is the most \
important part
Trevoke [?\]: Moshudan: how about http://trevoke.net/sgf/
ingen [?\]: AlphaGo needs kawaii anime face
dfhdff: ^
eatramen [?\]: it's because of yin and yang
Tictactoe [-\]: You should consider Fritz Lang's old movie
danielhast [?\]: there's a tradition in go commentary of referring \
to one player as male and one as female
leachy [2k\]: s9 might be a better sente move if you think b p7 \
group needs eyes
Azal [2d\]: it seems ke jie things g15 can live
danielhast [?\]: (when both are anonymous)
Codexus [7k?\]: Alpha-tan!
kaliya [-\]: M7 is not something I like
Azal [2d\]: thinks*
ingen [?\]: @Codexus LOL
kadoban [?\]: alphago needs to borrow the AI's body from ex machina
Trevoke [?\]: When Myungwan reviewed the early games, he said \
AlphaGo "felt" like a female player to him
oonicks: i think it got closer
jugi: e10 and white connect
Ellyboo [9k\]: winning player is always female]
;B[lm]
C[superpal1 [1d\]: lol
leachy [2k\]: yes but myungwan also thinks alphagot is omniscient
Ellyboo [9k\]: she is god]
;W[kh]
C[Reym [-\]: it
TheWolf [2d\]: jeez calm down people
Migrulos [2d?\]: r17 ?
About11kyu: ??? what is L12 doing
leachy [2k\]: living
blau3: Defending
Reym [-\]: nice move
chruluv [16k?\]: saves the group
danielhast [?\]: L12 protects center
kaliya [-\]: Excellent L12
LoneStar [3d\]: females dont like play boring games like go  , \
alpha go should be a male
RyanQu [2d?\]: strenth The middlw
python111: L12 awesome
Ilyo: Gives great pressure.
Elios: i missed last nights game did it go to counting?
jugi: there is miai at e10
danielhast [?\]: and maybe also has potential for a little territory \
in center?
Ilyo: Elios, resign towards the end
lodestone [4k\]: no Elios.
danielhast [?\]: anyway, Kim suggested that in some variations \
earlier
crestfalen [1d\]: j5 looks as nice yose
Elios: ty
Azal [2d\]: hope w gets r17
azblueeyes [8k\]: lonestar...that was no comment a gentlemean \
would make in the presence of a Lady
danielhast [?\]: so it's not an extraordinary move
BigDoug [-\]: lonestar was booted for that
GoIngo [?\]: Lee fightin with nails and teeth - but likely it \
will not suffice
ingen [?\]: What is current crazystone estimate?
GoIngo [?\]: 64 %
GoIngo [?\]: for black
ingen [?\]: OK thank you
RyanQu [2d?\]: R17 maybe not alive now..
blau3: As for B defending the lower right: imagine the disaster \
if W had managed to make R9 sente and get both this and R17
Ilyo: You think so Ryan?
Moshudan [3d\]: @trevoke : it works ! WOnderful. Thanks so much.]

;B[hg]
C[oonicks: well there was no more point on the board i think yesterday
kaliya [-\]: Easy kikashi
ohiioi: is commentator american ?
trippin [2k\]: redmond says r17 for b simplifies teh game, and \
puts w slightly ahead
Ilyo: H13?
Elios: o.o
heather [1k\]: if w slightly ahead by pro count, it is highly \
possible that b wins by alphago's count
kaliya [-\]: No way that B could carry a more severe attack? Like \
G13
bitzi [-\]: kejie: white lost big time
Kobor42 [?\]: Born american. Lives in china for a while
ohiioi: tx
gejimayu [2d?\]: Wwill pay there
Kobor42 [?\]: Nationality unknown
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Redmond lives in Japan?
GoIngo [?\]: crazy stone % were around 50 until move 70, then \
started to climb
Ellyboo [9k\]: K6
Kobor42 [?\]: Or that...
RyanQu [2d?\]: I'm in Project Management class. Professor give \
up the class and watch the game with me...
RyanQu [2d?\]: lol
GoIngo [?\]: good professor ;-)
danielhast [?\]: Kim: if W wins, then M11 was losing move
gejimayu [2d?\]: first things first, ryanqu :)
python111: nice professor
KobeGote [6k?\]: It's a Time Management class you say?
oonicks: 4pts
RyanQu [2d?\]: he did it
RyanQu [2d?\]: like a kid
GoIngo [?\]: yes, is pretty sure now
KoyoToya [-\]: Who's winning
Tictactoe [-\]: sorry, i just came back from the bathroom
Azal [2d\]: kim : w is winning by a little
Doli [7k?\]: operator
Ilyo: Hard to say Koyo Kim says white by a little
blau3: KoyoToya: you should know, of all people
Naphthalin [10k?\]: @TTT: you only missed g13
RyanQu [2d?\]: maybe time limit is the main problem
bitzi [-\]: ke jie said black is winning big
ingen [?\]: Sedol's time controls getting dangerous
ohiioi: how many 9p in the world ?
danielhast [?\]: Kim says B is winning now
trippin [2k\]: kim mispoke
trippin [2k\]: he thinks w wins
danielhast [?\]: mispoke, W winning
Rankachan [6k\]: kim >> white win by komi
cekalo [1k\]: time...
Azal [2d\]: kim says ... w wins
oonicks: well i would be annoyed by this move , it cost time
Tsuijin [1d?\]: What does Redmond say?
Ellyboo [9k\]: white dies in centre
Poney [1d\]: Maybe w will ignore here and play the top right corner
kaliya [-\]: How much time is Lee taking to connect!
Rinnon [7k?\]: Redmond still says he doesn't know.
Aram [3k\]: redmond also just quickly counted it to be more or \
less even on board (+komi for white of course)
gitpush [5k?\]: Deep still pretty amazing whatever the result \
:-o 
USSRMan [3d\]: really white won?
Trevoke [?\]: Redmond says g13 doesn't work
KoyoToya [-\]: I think he's considering surrounding
python111: Still, he has little time
USSRMan [3d\]: i trust crazystone 
oonicks: oh w has komi how much?
Doli [7k?\]: 7.5
ingen [?\]: 7.5
KurataSan [3d\]: 7.5
Ilyo: Kim seems so confident, but Lee looks very stressed
RyanQu [2d?\]: what's the meaning of crazystone?
kadoban [?\]: Why are they talking about a stream tomorrow? Isn't \
there a break day?
miai [1d\]: 7.5
feeldabern [4d\]: black has j5 to capture some stones in the center
feeldabern [4d\]: i really doubt b is losing
oonicks: 7.5 he is okish still i would say
ingen [?\]: @kadoban tomorrow is rest day for the human
ausrussell [4k\]: I wish Redmond had a real Go player to talk \
to
Naphthalin [10k?\]: lsd didn't play g13 yet?
icecream99 [1d?\]: j5 j4,no capture
USSRMan [3d\]: game is very very close
gitpush [5k?\]: If it is even before yose it will be hard for \
Lee 
SIscurge [5d\]: Kim didn't say w win by komi
SIscurge [5d\]: The idea was w can win by half point because its \
7.5
kadoban [?\]: Yeah I don't understand what AJis talking about \
with the scheduling ...
oonicks: no but by my last count with 3.5 uh:)
GoIngo [?\]: maybe very close in score, but not in %
heather [1k\]: russell, Chris seems to be an ok player but I think \
he is gushing too much at Redmond and trying to tailor the commentary \
for beginners too much
lodestone [4k\]: Kim said W wins because of the komi.
USSRMan [3d\]: well what is %?
ingen [?\]: they need side by side Lee and Computer 
ingen [?\]: staring at each other
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Are we moving into yose right about now?
GoIngo [?\]: winning percent of monte carlo tree search
oonicks: its not decided
lodestone [4k\]: But did someone say Ke Jie claims B is way ahead?
USSRMan [3d\]: sure do you know the current %
RyanQu [2d?\]: Lee have how much time rest?
About11kyu: li running out of time
Kolie34A: what is sedol thinking now?
DarkRaist [3k\]: Anybody watching teh chinese stream? What is \
Ke Jie's read?
oonicks: mayb it is , but i dont think it si
Ilyo: about ten mins ryan
HeartXiao [4k\]: Kim said W is ahead because chinese rules are \
7.5 komi as opposed to 6.5
GoIngo [?\]: yes they are running on my machine
bitzi [-\]: yes the ke jie stream is quite certain black won
ausrussell [4k\]: Yes Heather, I am being harsh.... I've just \
heard Korean commentators seem to cater better to all levels
eatramen [?\]: Demis Hassabis was a pro poker player? dang
Aram [3k\]: heather, it's not like go is being overwhelmed with \
new players, and this is a stream that many people who don't \
know much about go might be asking, so i think it's quite good \
it is geared towards beginners and towards explaining
About11kyu: how long is the byoyomi
GoIngo [?\]: 63-64 % for blkack
df1276: computers should be limited to the volumina of a human \
being on contests
shashwat [7k?\]: what's ke jie saying?
Prestige [1k?\]: i think lee is counting 
KoyoToya [-\]: Didn't someone say ke jie misspoke
RyanQu [2d?\]: Ke Jie said B win a lot
USSRMan [3d\]: yeah, this is not close at all
df1276: also no external energy
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: About11kyu - I think 5x60sec I heard, don't \
quote me
df1276: except muesli bars
ingen [?\]: 60x3 byoyomi
kaliya [-\]: 3x60 no?
USSRMan [3d\]: white a 2-1 dog here
Takamusan [4k?\]: where is ke jie stream ?
shashwat [7k?\]: a lot = ?
Naphthalin [10k?\]: 3x60, yes
Ilyo: IS there another move for lee sedol here?
Tsuijin [1d?\]: Ke Jie thinking human resigns soon...
Rankachan [6k\]: ke jie > black win  kim >> white win]

(;W[qc]
C[ingen [?\]: Sedol shoudl fight to the bitter end
Codexus [7k?\]: yes!
gitpush [5k?\]: Wow 
bitzi [-\]: ke jie thinking sedol will resing soon
Tictactoe [-\]: game-line
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: It would be mean if AlphaGo saved some difficult \
moves for endgame when Lee Sedol was low on time... :)
GoIngo [?\]: Lee Sedol should make more moves for the audience
Kolie34A: 3-3
Shanti [1k\]: Mmmh
Turnipsi [1k\]: all right!
ausrussell [4k\]: cool
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: GoIngo - That's what AlphaGo is doing
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: With moves like P10 or D14
Ilyo: corner huh?
GoIngo [?\]: right, my bot too
GoIngo [?\]: I mean crazy stone
GoIngo [?\]: I am only useing it
kdbaby14 [6k\]: tenuki at R-17
KoyoToya [-\]: Ok i think this is desperate
oonicks: all the rest so miai.. 
USSRMan [3d\]: i dont think giving up g15 for corner is good
oonicks: the right and the bottom
kaliya [-\]: Now B cuts G13
Trevoke [?\]: There is NO chance of this game ending before 3am, \
is there.
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago is master calculator, it knows what is \
bigger
leachy [2k\]: 5 junk stones aren't as big as sente
GoIngo [?\]: no, r17 best move according to crazystone]
;B[qd];W[rc]
C[saiiii1k: by the way... what are the bioyomi rules in this match? \
Since Lee doesn't have much time left
yoyoma [2d?\]: 3x1min
Ilyo: Kim seems to think this may be as big, possibly bigger.
wolvie [?\]: 3x1min 
schtroumpf [?\]: lee sedol is black or white ?
Ahamay [7d?\]: this game Lee really gave his best, and if we can \
believe Ke he still got smashed... this is disturbing
Kolie34A: white
KoyoToya [-\]: W
ausrussell [4k\]: Is tictactoe playing variants?
Ahamay [7d?\]: maybe we are seeing the hand of god after all :)
schtroumpf [?\]: ok thx
USSRMan [3d\]: lee miscounted
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Last night they said 30x6
shashwat [7k?\]: nope. real game situation
RyanQu [2d?\]: I don't like Kejie
kadoban [?\]: No, this is the game as far as I see.
Tictactoe [-\]: i went to the bathroom and accidently thought \
g13 was played
mcsquared [5k\]: How did Lee miscount?
ausrussell [4k\]: thanks
KurataSan [3d\]: ke jie is currently the strongest player
Codexus [7k?\]: According to the BGA page it should be 3x60
USSRMan [3d\]: g15 stones
KurataSan [3d\]: it doesn't matter if you like him
oonicks: gives lee time to think about g13 seems
AnthonyC [3k\]: ke jie is pretty likeable
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Lee didn't miscount, he is doing the best he \
can]
;B[pc]
;W[sd]
C[Kolie34A: oh
Ilyo: What did Andrew just whisper?
Ilyo: Did anyone hear?
goalie [13k?\]: G13 now :v
goalie [13k?\]: i want to see why 
KurataSan [3d\]: w has r9 
InMedio [10k?\]: seems like he spoke to haylee
GoIngo [?\]: 66 % now for Black according to CS
KurataSan [3d\]: and k2 
Aram [3k\]: the points around g15 is, what, 2-4 points smaller \
than this corner?
leachy [2k\]: g13 too small....it has no follow-up moves
buhaypa [3k\]: Isn't b at n11 very severe?
Sachan [?\]: black ahead still?
Azal [2d\]: g13 is huge for b
USSRMan [3d\]: crazystone thinks black will win]
;B[gg]
C[leachy [2k\]: yes n11 a real issue
kaliya [-\]: Finally...
baabe [4k\]: j3 many points?
baabe [4k\]: for w
USSRMan [3d\]: not big
Turnipsi [1k\]: m12 better than n11
USSRMan [3d\]: r9 bigger
leachy [2k\]: r9 area bigger
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: USSRMan - What is Crazystone?
RyanQu [2d?\]: N11..Not very critical
USSRMan [3d\]: xijinping, use google
mcsquared [5k\]: can lee n11 now, or is that not critical enough?
feeldabern [4d\]: m12 and n11 are coming alive now
leachy [2k\]: yeah i guess bot must think it's winning
baabe [4k\]: r9 is big yes
blau3: can W afford to b15 or c15 in sente?
baabe [4k\]: more than R17
GoIngo [?\]: cs thinks, a win with 15 pointsa for black is within \
reach now
Ilyo: n 11 is becoming ripe now
KurataSan [3d\]: this game is over though
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: USSRMan - Found it
Turnipsi [1k\]: surely anything threatening the life of k10 is \
critical
Kolie34A: big move
mcsquared [5k\]: @Kurata: you think w too far behind?
KurataSan [3d\]: yeah
Ellyboo [9k\]: K6
joh2345 [4d\]: no
ArcticDawn [6k\]: huge trade.
SIscurge [5d\]: Can someone send me a link to the chinese stream \
with Ke Jie please?
joh2345 [4d\]: close
shashwat [7k?\]: c5]
;W[ce]
C[TheWolf [2d\]:  w might be slightly ahead
bitzi [-\]: ke jie stream: http://sports.letv.com/match/122342003.html#live/1020160303211940
blau3: yeeaah
SIscurge [5d\]: Thank you
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: The big yose are happening now
joh2345 [4d\]: close game guys :)
USSRMan [3d\]: i wonder what alphago's internal mc says
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Then medium yose
Ilyo: white might be fine
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Then tiny yose, and game finished
Garp [11k\]: ussrman: is the opinion of CS any useful as cant \
win against neither of players before at least 4 stone of handicap \
? If it was reliable, it would play the winnig estimate and win \
always...
Ellyboo [9k\]: white Could be ahead......... but not in this game
GoIngo [?\]: 69 %]
;B[bd]
C[Kolie34A: black's winrate,you mean
GoIngo [?\]: right
oldguy [4d\]: I am just curious if alphago would get desperate, \
and how
Reym [-\]: thanks for the link bitzi
Kolie34A: nearly 70...
USSRMan [3d\]: well if we just play random moves, black wins 70% \
of the time
TheWolf [2d\]: n14 also seems pretty big no?
ingen [?\]: would like to see AlphaGo's confidence in moves, like \
with Watson in jeopardy
Kolie34A: Is lee sedol in byo-yomi yet?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Interesting that AlphaGo is taking just as \
much time on these early yose moves as it did on most other moves
oonicks: 5 dead stonesis a bit much
chruluv [16k?\]: @kolie sedol has about 5 mins
Codexus [7k?\]: he still has  5 min
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Kolie - 5 minutes left, live stream here https://www.youtube.com/embed/l-GsfyVCBu0
Elios: imgen that would be nice to see
GoIngo [?\]: cs: 69 % and stable histogram
RyanQu [2d?\]: Q18 maybe the biggest
oldguy [4d\]: from my experience, when bot gets desperate, they \
would play ridiculous moves
DarkRaist [3k\]: what program is givin the 69% win rate?
Kolie34A: thx
leachy [2k\]: maybe w n15 or so is a good way to defend against \
the possibility of n11?
KobeGote [6k?\]: It is good for Lee if Alpha Go spends a lot of \
time reading this :\\
oonicks: b16 is a good move to learn sth to ppl on kgs;)
danielhast [?\]: Kim says C15 might be big mistake
GoIngo [?\]: crazy stone, editiion 2013
About11kyu: one day humans will challenge bots, taking 9 handicap \
against them
oonicks: not very desperate i call it:)
KurataSan [3d\]: i really don't understand c15
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: danielhast - Interesting, I'm watching Michael \
Redmond, thanks for relaying
DarkRaist [3k\]: thx goingo
mcsquared [5k\]: why is c15 a huge mistake? was b15 better or \
something?
oonicks: 1 point free sente for the dead stones]
;W[qb]
C[mcsquared [5k\]: would b15 be sente?
botBot: w seems to lose points from c15
ingen [?\]: Redmond such a baller
BrentoBox [4k\]: behg move. behg move.
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha ingen
oonicks: yes it is mayb too slow
Nam [-\]: oh is r18 big?
oonicks: i mean ..
DarkRaist [3k\]: Redmond is way better than what I'd expected
Ilyo: .-. waht
physics [2k\]: What is Se
leachy [2k\]: if w b15 b16, this is better than w c15 b16 is the \
idea since now black has b15 etc.
mcsquared [5k\]: r18 instead of q18? 
blau3: r18 big due to O19 sente followup
DarkRaist [3k\]: did not expect 9d to be so damn clear and sure \
of himself
Kolie34A: alphago should respond
USSRMan [3d\]: q19
Codexus [7k?\]: Redmond is awesome, no question there
Jahfab [1k\]: quelqu'un devrait dire à Redmont qu'a chaque fois \
qu'il devine un coup il doit boire 
dfhdff: same
shashwat [7k?\]: 3x60
GoIngo [?\]: Redmond is really the best theycould get 
physics [2k\]: Do you know Se? I am on phone
Moshudan [3d\]: (@trevoke : did i thank you properly ? I lost \
my connection right when i answered you. It did work, thank you \
!)
ausrussell [4k\]: Time
GoIngo [?\]: for us in the west
Trevoke [?\]: Redmond is a caucasian who reached a high rank in \
a Japanese world. Other people who achieved similar things had \
to be significantly better than the Japanese to get there
Nam [-\]: w wanna attack with p18?
DarkRaist [3k\]: Can we tweet enough to get rid of Chris
DarkRaist [3k\]: he really sucks
Trevoke [?\]: Moshudan - I hadn't gotten the thanks. You're welcome! \
:)
dfhdff: se says b+3.5
Aram [3k\]: redmond is excellent for english commentary in my \
opinion
Nam [-\]: b must def q18
crate [?\]: no no not this game please add time
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Yeah, Redmond is doing a great job
BongoBob [-\]: Redmond's doing a real fine job. It must be a real \
challenge to discuss a game like this while analyzing it as well \
as he's doing it
Eternal6k [6k?\]: He's the best
ausrussell [4k\]: Add 5 Minutes
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago's endgame is perfect according to lee sedol
USSRMan [3d\]: game 1
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: His partner on the left isn't terrible either, \
despite the criticism he got in the beginning lol
Yumi [8d\]: AI's tend to have good endgames]

;B[hi]
C[Nam [-\]: next w q10?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: USSRMan - Interesting to hear, and really not \
so surprising
BongoBob [-\]: I can understand the need for his partner based \
on the media presence in the audience
Nam [-\]: oh
leachy [2k\]: he apparently commentates a lot in japan (in japanese)
Nam [-\]: cut
Codexus [7k?\]: time destroying tesuji
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: "I hadn't looked at that move" re: bH11
cekalo [1k\]: omg
USSRMan [3d\]: huh?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: From Redmond
Nam [-\]: b11
Nam [-\]: n11
mcsquared [5k\]: is h10 ok response?
mcsquared [5k\]: or too passive?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Wow, the AI discovered a move that surprised \
Redmond
ingen [?\]: Anyone understand this move?
DarkRaist [3k\]: wow time to resign after H11
USSRMan [3d\]: if white ignores and p18?
GoIngo [?\]: endgamer
Aram [3k\]: lee sedol with 2 minutes 30 seconds and a possible \
new fight in the center :/
ingen [?\]: I am ~5k, so no idea
USSRMan [3d\]: is it big enough
nananana: Sounds like most chinese pros think black is slightly \
more hopeful to win.
blau3: mcsquared: w surely will look hard for any excuse to tenuki
oonicks: probably not with f12, everyone is thinking for white \
(v redmond:)
Kolie34A: danger?
Ellyboo [9k\]: alphago understands this mov]
;W[jg]
C[aitkensam [-\]: bad time to be going into byoyomi :s
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: "White played the safe move here" says Redmond
gitpush [5k?\]: Looks big if w tenuki 
Nam [-\]: nice
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Hmm
goalie [13k?\]: he tried it milion times before show us
leachy [2k\]: h11 was weird
danielhast [?\]: Kim says it's very close
Azal [2d\]: mmmm
Elios: Alpha GO cares not for your time troubles 
oonicks: nice heh,, i agree lee is playing amazing
kaliya [-\]: Amazing W answer
Ilyo: Wow
Yumi [8d\]: nice
MofioL [3k\]: magad i though of that move
leachy [2k\]: lee should have made the game time longer.....a \
bit longer games would help him a lot and not help the machine \
at all
ingen [?\]: what a swing -- crazystone estimate now?
Nam [-\]: good job
Rankachan [6k\]: k13 is awesome ?
Ilyo: This is an increadible game
Seijuro [3k\]: Lee starting to go in transe mood
leachy [2k\]: or rather not help the machine much at all
GoIngo [?\]: cs now thinks: score +20 +-10 for black
Nam [-\]: k13 so good
Ilyo: It looks like Lee is hitting a groove.
Gotham88 [4k\]: chinese viewer says black winning
DarkRaist [3k\]: any word from kie jie?
USSRMan [3d\]: should just q18 maybe
DarkRaist [3k\]: damn ok
Elios: id think more time would help the AI more
shashwat [7k?\]: black still winning?
Azal [2d\]: i could watch these kind of match every night
Elios: more time to read
KurataSan [3d\]: what is so awesome about this move?
RyanQu [2d?\]: K13 means D15 can connected
Nam [-\]: g12 is support now
dfhdff: b+20 is clearly wrong...
Ilyo: Kie Jie will say black is winning even if white wins -.-
shashwat [7k?\]: Redmond and Kim are saying W can win
botBot: they are using japanese rules?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I'm surprised the AI isn't making fuller use \
of its time
python111: not much time
ingen [?\]: Chinese rules for scoring
Ilyo: chinese rules
Turnipsi [1k\]: why can't I see anything wrong with h10?
leachy [2k\]: after this exchange, suddenly that looks possible
DarkRaist [3k\]: anybody watching the korean commentry?
w1nless [?\]: chinese rules
Beleragor [7k\]: guys, i just arrived, how is going?
oonicks: oh funny:) 
Azal [2d\]: if AG thinks it loses ... it takes more risky moves \
to try to win
Codexus [7k?\]: the AI is probably running on a huge cluster, \
so it's like it has lots of time in a way
leachy [2k\]: xijinping, it's not AI....hence it can't reason \
in such fashion
Hyaki [6k\]: white do is best
lodestone [4k\]: M12 is a danger after h10 I think Turnipsi.
mcsquared [5k\]: @Beleragor: white made a bad yose move, then \
an okay one, and now a fight's about to start
Tictactoe [-\]: pretty exciting, sedol fought harder this time
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Interesting, Azal
JBoutte [5k\]: @Belgator : black just did something aweome
lofuchi [3k\]: w's patience seem to profit at the end
df1276: so playing strength will be measured in iso-cpus later?
ausrussell [4k\]: humanity fights back
botBot: if the first match was played to the end.. what will \
be the result if w didnt resign?
kadoban [?\]: Haha it just cut
Nam [-\]: like w r9 or p18
XioLyTu: what a game :)]
;B[hj]
C[GoIngo [?\]: agony now
DarkRaist [3k\]: Yup - hell of a game folks]
;W[ob]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Yes, this is SUCH a good game
USSRMan [3d\]: pretty average game imo
Bruno [1d\]: who is winning? 
Tictactoe [-\]: big furikawari going down
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Lol, left commentator
tengen9001: this there any alphaGo vs alphaGo match online?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Bruno - It's close
KobeGote [6k?\]: Does black making these exchanges in the middle \
mean that white was ahead?
Rankachan [6k\]: lee is awesome
Bruno [1d\]: ok
Elios: USSRMan it was 2 high level humans... but one is an AI \
here
Elios: if ^
Ilyo: hawt damn
Codexus [7k?\]: maybe alphago is just getting desperate and trying \
everything it can
jugi: g10 isnt g10 a big key point?
USSRMan [3d\]: what is crazystone reading?
python111: AlphaGo playing like a human, omg
GoIngo [?\]: sorry, not running at the moment
GoIngo [?\]: needs a rest
KurataSan [3d\]: alpha playing like a god
Gotham88 [4k\]: alhpago is amazing
ingen [?\]: AlphaSai
Gotham88 [4k\]: the computer.
oonicks: i remember some bots cr3w up when moves like p18 get \
played:)
Gotham88 [4k\]: AI
tengen9001: AlphaGod
Gotham88 [4k\]: yea. it's a computer
Gotham88 [4k\]: i'm watching the link provided.
superpal1 [1d\]: huh
leachy [2k\]: i think lee will win :)
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: AlphaGo using a lot of time again
XioLyTu: hope Lee can win this :)
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Well, a bit more
Rankachan [6k\]: lee will win this
hojyosoun [1d\]: who is leading ?
none [8k\]: Who is ahead
Ilyo: *shrug*
Ilyo: that's who
Tictactoe [-\]: nobody knows
Aram [3k\]: pros seem to think its close
Aram [3k\]: on different streams
Gotham88 [4k\]: commentator kept saying white should resign
Azal [2d\]: lee going into byo
XioLyTu: q18
leachy [2k\]: no humans don't play 2 moves going after 4 stones \
and allowing your opponent to enter your crazy big territory
Ilyo: Most pros think white by a little, Jie thinks alpha go \
is the messiah
XioLyTu: was played
jugi: g10 is pretty big
kaliya [-\]: Is Jie sponsored by Google?
Ahamay [7d?\]: Does Ke Jie still say B wins big?
Ilyo: I think Jie secretly is Alpha Go.
XioLyTu: q18, q19]
;B[pb]
;W[pa]
C[Elios: lol
oonicks: that centre is dead so:/ when i count now i get b ahead
kaliya [-\]: Lee is going to enter in byoyomi
jugi: g10 g10, my whish
dfhdff: its not dead yet
Turnipsi [1k\]: yesterday AlphaGo revealed it thinks it's winning \
by playing some subotimal stuff
Tictactoe [-\]: Ke Jie is praising alphy into heaven to get a \
chance on a million perhaps
Rankachan [6k\]: Ke Jie >> b wins big   , kim >> so close
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Not dead
ingen [?\]: would be amusing if AlphaGo resigns
botBot: w lose big in the center...
python111: what's byo-yomi??
GoIngo [?\]: cs says 71 % for black
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Would a human have played Q18 just now?
shashwat [7k?\]: 3x60
Beleragor [7k\]: how moves left to restart byoyomi?
Turnipsi [1k\]: today it's playing sharp and even risky so it \
probably doesn't think it's ahead
Nam [-\]: o 18 really
shashwat [7k?\]: per move
JBoutte [5k\]: Is there a byo yomi time ?
cxcv: Bots are stronger than human players at this stage
Ilyo: I would of probably XiJin
eatramen [?\]: google is gonna pull an IBM and retire AG if it \
beats lee
Reym [-\]: 3x 60s
mcsquared [5k\]: white gave up g9 and g11, but is k10 dead? Doesn't \
n11 save?]
;B[nb]
C[JBoutte [5k\]: thanks
Yumi [8d\]: i wonder if they'll ever let common players play alphago
dfhdff: w center is not dead....
Yumi [8d\]: i'd like to go up against it
Nam [-\]: o19 n18p17
RyanQu [2d?\]: Before I use the KGS, i really don't know that \
go is familar in western country...
BongoBob [-\]: well, facebook did with their robbit.
Eternal6k [6k?\]: D15
lofuchi [3k\]: allowing me to play with it will drag it down
Kolie34A: still black ahead
Reym [-\]: must be too expensive to run the supercomputer
lofuchi [3k\]: polluting its database
Elios: they need to let it lose on the go servers
DarkRaist [3k\]: ok yeah - black wins
trippin [2k\]: b thinks it is quite close
Gotham88 [4k\]: wow, the chinese pro are discussing the moves.. \
it's exactly how it's being played out.
eatramen [?\]: at this point, FB should make darkforest public \
so everyone can play and let it learn from those games
DarkRaist [3k\]: after O18
Gotham88 [4k\]: n18
ingen [?\]: come on Lee!!  HWAITING !
tengen9001: timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Gotham88 [4k\]: for white
Ilyo: Facebooks robbit is always poking me and messaging me for \
more games
BongoBob [-\]: hmm, youtube stream down for me.
eatramen [?\]: they already lost one race to google
danielhast [?\]: B in byo-yomi now
AnthonyC [3k\]: ko according to kim
katiuska [4d\]: ko coming
Azal [2d\]: kim: w needs go for the ko
danielhast [?\]: sorry, W
Gotham88 [4k\]: http://sports.letv.com/match/122342003.html#live/1020160303211940
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: ingen - AlphaGo hwaiting :)
Codexus [7k?\]: byo-yomi hype!
lofuchi [3k\]: but can w win the ko
skillup [5d\]: ko? how?
lemur [9k?\]: Our games wouldn't pollute it, in fact it was trained \
pretty exclusively on KGS games
katiuska [4d\]: attach at n18
df1276: now already hjalf of the chess players got a heart attack
lemur [9k?\]: It was fed 30 million positions from KGS matches
skillup [5d\]: n18 o19??
Nam [-\]: o19 n18 p17 p16o17 n17 p19 n19 r9
XioLyTu: and we have byo
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Like I say
lemur [9k?\]: then played itself a bajillion times, trained on \
those games, and played itself some more
GoIngo [?\]: mpove played
Eternal6k [6k?\]: D15
Trevoke [?\]: Redmond thinks W is currently leading on territory
asd: timesuji]
;W[de]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha asd
DarkRaist [3k\]: super timesuji
hojyosoun [1d\]: who is ahead ?
skillup [5d\]: n18 o19 n16 works?
Rankachan [6k\]: kim + redmond >> w leading  , ke jie  >> b win \
big
cheater [8d\]: B+
jugi: no it works
KurataSan [3d\]: redmond is not a dependent source
KurataSan [3d\]: b will win this
botBot: b got center and 2 corners..
oonicks: that is a sad idea eh? that ai can think everything \
over better than we if you just allow it to train on the matter:)
danielhast [?\]: current time: B 19min main, W byo-yomi 3x60s]
;B[ee]
C[kadoban [?\]: Has kim said white is ahead?
Ilyo: Jie after sedol wins "Yeah but black is still leading"
GoIngo [?\]: funny: cs down to 64 %
cekalo [1k\]: time!]
;W[gj]
C[dfhdff: this game is too far above cs level
crate [?\]: lol redmond asks for AlphaGo SE wich is siri ofcoarse
shashwat [7k?\]: cheater, why?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Oh geez. The Redmond commentary is now commenting \
on Lee Sedol's time limits affecting his play a little
Beleragor [7k\]: Lee has a plan we can even imagine :P
axonn: n11
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: crate - Yeah, might as well go and ask Lee \
Sedol too lol
ingen [?\]: improved KGS estimation from W+2.5 to W+6.5
Gotham88 [4k\]: g10?
cheater [8d\]: oh, tis works
hojyosoun [1d\]: i am lucky i am still alive to witness such historical \
moment
Nam [-\]: nice
Bruno [1d\]: that is dead g 10
Nam [-\]: e10 f10...
hojyosoun [1d\]: thanks god
shashwat [7k?\]: yeah, but SE is calculating bottom left incorrectly
Rankachan [6k\]: this game is awesome
glasszee [3k\]: g10 is strong
ingen [?\]: I really want to see what happens when AlphaGo goes \
into time pressure
leachy [2k\]: still don't know how w n18 o19 n16 works out....seems \
critical
Ilyo: I'd love to see a strem with Kim, Redmond, and Andrew moderating.
KurataSan [3d\]: g10 is dead.
Azal [2d\]: g10 seems bad for w
superpal1 [1d\]: \\o/ LSD \\o/
RyanQu [2d?\]: lee can win by shutting down the electrcity..
Nam [-\]: g10 good
Rephos [23k\]: wow
gomathgo [1k\]: omg
baahamut [3k\]: maybe preparing for the ko?
danielhast [?\]: g10 not dead, Kim sees how it can live]

;B[hh]
C[GoIngo [?\]: bots in time pressure are smooth fighters]
;W[ej]
C[KurataSan [3d\]: what
KurataSan [3d\]: the fuk
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago read this already
gomathgo [1k\]: humanity
botBot: g10 = timesuji
danielhast [?\]: D12 too short on liberties to capture
Jingolobaa: Lol RyanQu
Ilyo: Lee has conserved some water in his cup. He's gonna throw \
it at the monitor
Nam [-\]: next w can e1-f10
Gotham88 [4k\]: insane if it can live
Rankachan [6k\]: go go Lee !  take my energy
KoyoToya [-\]: It can
bitzi [-\]: the stream of gu li also thinks black winning
KurataSan [3d\]: it's alive now
Nam [-\]: nice job
gaia001 [5k\]: alive
lofuchi [3k\]: w so evil
KurataSan [3d\]: but i don't understand b
lofuchi [3k\]: :P
Ilyo: Lol baduk spirit bomb
ingen [?\]: lEE-sama, pls
KoyoToya [-\]: Yeah it's alive
XioLyTu: nice
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: KurataSan - But Redmond didn't seem too shocked?
XioLyTu: come on Lee :)
Gotham88 [4k\]: oh
Codexus [7k?\]: alphago also seems to think it's winning
narugo [1d\]: white throws away four stones more
Nam [-\]: f12
Gotham88 [4k\]: cool.
KurataSan [3d\]: oh oops..
Beleragor [7k\]: what happen with the coments talking about the \
wrong side of the board?
Beleragor [7k\]: :P
KurataSan [3d\]: i had a misread
Turnipsi [1k\]: h12 instead of j so weird...
DarkRaist [3k\]: thats game folks :(
Nam [-\]: f12 f10 b got sente]
;B[nf]
C[kaliya [-\]: Alpha Played O14
leachy [2k\]: the idea of c15 is revealed
df1276: if computer loses, it might play more slack?
SIscurge [5d\]: Go for G10 Alpha, try the human out \]:-D
kaliya [-\]: Hahaha
Rankachan [6k\]: o14 ?
skillup [5d\]: o14 is probably to prevent n18?
Gotham88 [4k\]: now white leading?
USSRMan [3d\]: ?
axonn: w11
RyanQu [2d?\]: O14 better than N11?
axonn: wn11
cheater [8d\]: still get black leading
feeldabern [4d\]: w is still doing fine
feeldabern [4d\]: b*
Weishenme [4d\]: O13
aoyagi [2d\]: r10
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: df1276 - Maybe it played too slack this game \
and needs to be more aggressive/risky?
Nam [-\]: o14 nice move
kaliya [-\]: W ahead
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: df1276 - No idea
leachy [2k\]: skillup, bots can't reason like that but surely \
that's what it comes down to
cekalo [1k\]: r9
Gotham88 [4k\]: lol, it lost the g10, now it's aiming for n12
Rankachan [6k\]: kim > w can win   : ke jie b still win big
USSRMan [3d\]: the cut was so werid
oonicks: black just said i was 12 points ahead?
gogonuts [4d\]: o14 avoiding the ko?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Redmond's voice changed, is he uncertain about \
what black is doing?
Nam [-\]: o14 going to fight l12
USSRMan [3d\]: h10 makes no sense
Tictactoe [-\]: sedol spend first period
Reym [-\]: n11?
mate105 [1d\]: CS  current opinion?
narugo [1d\]: does alpha go do as stupid moves as other mc:s when \
losing?
cekalo [1k\]: think faster Lee!
Nam [-\]: w need reply now
m1m [1k\]: we will see
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Tictactoe - That's interesting.... I wonder \
what he is spending extra time on
SIscurge [5d\]: Strange move
Ilyo: Watching sedol hurts my heart. He looks like he's in such \
pain
hojyosoun [1d\]: narugo, of course, and the new AI will make them \
escape from game
cxcv: byo-yomi
lodestone [4k\]: As Andrew said, we've never seen it lose, so \
we don't know.]
;W[mf]
C[Reym [-\]: one byoyomi period gone
Isla [?\]: maybe 65% or 66% for b
GoIngo [?\]: move played
SIscurge [5d\]: there is still N18
About11kyu: how many periods does sedol have
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: What will black do now............
Prestige [1k?\]: is c11 a losing move for b?
goalie [13k?\]: can you please send me youtube url ?
Reym [-\]: 2 left
About11kyu: of byoyomi
botBot: 2x60s left
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: About11kyu - Two periods of 60sec
godiva [2k\]: time for b to resign?
About11kyu: omfg
About11kyu: 2 left
Tictactoe [-\]: started at three periods
goalie [13k?\]: can i have youtube url ?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: AlphaGo has 16min maintime remaining
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: goalie - https://www.youtube.com/embed/l-GsfyVCBu0
GoIngo [?\]: cs 65 % for Black
Kolie34A: B+6.5 I guess
lodestone [4k\]: Lee has 2 BYO left?
wolvie [?\]: yes
Trevoke [?\]: Yes
USSRMan [3d\]: damn
JBoutte [5k\]: yup
USSRMan [3d\]: black will win
botBot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
Turnipsi [1k\]: h12 must mean AlphaGo "knows" it'll win
python111: Now time for AG to risk, or it wil lose
dfhdff: se likes w
sdfsdfdd: myungwan: black winning slightly
USSRMan [3d\]: se's opinion means nothing
danielhast [?\]: Kim: B is slightly ahead, but very close
narugo [1d\]: hopefully lee gets this
Tictactoe [-\]: SE is useless in chinese counting
Codexus [7k?\]: yes, clearly alphago sees itself ahead
XioLyTu: fanqeiqi vs. sweetrip under this game (just 39 viewers) \
:D :D]
;B[me]
C[XioLyTu: fanweiqi*
sprouts [1d\]: lol
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Redmond says "Game still very close"
Mneme [2k\]: so 2-0 ?
Nam [-\]: m14 realy?
trippin [2k\]: how is sweetrip playing a game right now.
KobeGote [6k?\]: Yikes, normally I'd stop whatever I'm doing to \
watch a 9D plan on KGS
narugo [1d\]: still very close sounds bad for lee, alpha too good \
in counting
kaliya [-\]: Last byoyomi period
Gotham88 [4k\]: was d 15 a good play?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Lee Sedol on final byo-yomi period
trippin [2k\]: unfortunate time pressure
Kolie34A: 1 period
Tictactoe [-\]: sedol into last period of byoyomi
adancassan [13k?\]: sorry if this has been discussed, i didn't \
follow the whole chat. do you guys think that they "communicate" \
the time to alphago so it/she can take into cosideration LSD \
time situation?
JBoutte [5k\]: Is the left guy a go player as well ?
Rankachan [6k\]: kim + redmond game still very close  ke jie b \
still win a lot
GoIngo [?\]: Lee running out of time reserves
kaliya [-\]: D16!
trippin [2k\]: I highly doubt it adancassan
narugo [1d\]: it dont care said commentator
Kolie34A: nervous...
Nam [-\]: b 15 got g10 leave that good
adancassan [13k?\]: yes he is, 6D
narugo [1d\]: about time pressure
Kolie34A: 15secs
Elios: o.o
ingen [?\]: I'm on edge of my seat, to be honest
USSRMan [3d\]: lol
Lexical: Redmond is a good commentator :)]

;W[rk]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: "That's a sign that he's having a hard time \
working out all the variations... cuz usually players like to \
leave more than one time period.... it's a decisive point int \
he game and he can't afford a mistake at this point" Redmond \
re:Sedol on last byo-yomi period
Trevoke [?\]: Chris Garlock is 3D, IIRC.
Eternal6k [6k?\]: S9
Ilyo: idk if I've ever seen something like this
Codexus [7k?\]: 2 sec left
USSRMan [3d\]: ok watch black kill!
leachy [2k\]: finally....w got that move
adancassan [13k?\]: i also doubt it, trippin, but it should be \
somehow needed at some point...
Kolie34A: wow,sedol.....
Reym [-\]: my
justhinkin [1k\]: so nervous :D
cekalo [1k\]: omg i will get a heartattack
Naphthalin [10k?\]: last second? :D
Reym [-\]: me too
kaliya [-\]: Whoa
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Naphthalin - Pro moves ;)
XioLyTu: :D :D :D 
Reym [-\]: he looks so calm
Tsuijin [1d?\]: Maybe good guy Alpha will play slower for human.
mate105 [1d\]: Heart attacked
skillup [5d\]: o12 doesn't work?
Beleragor [7k\]: is it gonna be like this move all the game? i \
am gonna die
adancassan [13k?\]: I thought you were asking about Aja
GoIngo [?\]: 67 % says CS
leachy [2k\]: i think after b n11, m14 is enough to defend
Elios: AlphaGo is going to win by attrition
Redjoker [3d\]: o12
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Lee's hair greyer than start of match
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I wonder if Lee Sedol could make tiny mistakes \
at this point?
skillup [5d\]: o12 o13... hmm seems w alive
gitpush [5k?\]: W will missclick 
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: The computer will see his mistakes for sure \
at this point in yose...
iCloud [8k\]: no
wry [3d\]: b will disconnect
Nam [-\]: is s9 biger than d16
Elios: lol
cekalo [1k\]: if alpha wins all pros can retire]
;B[fh]
C[mate105 [1d\]: I cannot sleep tomorrow.
iCloud [8k\]: W can't play at Q9
iCloud [8k\]: I think
iCloud [8k\]: ah
Kolie34A: very close now]
;W[el]
C[Nam [-\]: nice def with f12
Gotham88 [4k\]: @_@
iCloud [8k\]: R9
shashwat [7k?\]: ooooh
Tsuijin [1d?\]: Ko for time!!!
gaia001 [5k\]: gogo leee :D
rubicon [-\]: does anyone know if alphago uses pondering ?
Tsuijin [1d?\]: He can do itt!!
Rankachan [6k\]: go go lee
GoIngo [?\]: 76 % for Black, says CS
kaliya [-\]: Lee can make it
Beleragor [7k\]: KOOOOO
shashwat [7k?\]: how is CS at reading end games?
GoIngo [?\]: medium amateur level
Elios: wow Ko
chruluv [16k?\]: what is the benefit of playing for this ko?
Naphthalin [10k?\]: time
oonicks: it reall is like a human how it plays
feeldabern [4d\]: ko is just a way for lee to get extra time to \
think
USSRMan [3d\]: it uses montecarlo method to calculate probability
mate105 [1d\]: Dam 76% now!
gomathgo [1k\]: time / wasted ko threats
chruluv [16k?\]: tyty
oonicks: that is almost more surprising than when it wins
Beleragor [7k\]: and nobody sure about if AG know how to play \
Kos
gogonuts [4d\]: alpha going up 2:0
Ellyboo [9k\]: white dies
Elios: AlphaGo is just rubbing it in it knows the outcome now
Kolie34A: Why sedol play this ko?
narugo [1d\]: so exiting 3k years of human superiority in ko is \
ending
kadoban [?\]: It's played kos
leachy [2k\]: helps white play k7
shashwat [7k?\]: ko saves G10, right?
gogonuts [4d\]: and lee sedol really tried to play reasonably
ingen [?\]: "elementary"
eatramen [?\]: is lee just bad at chinese rules? sorry if that's \
rude
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha ingen
danielhast [?\]: Kim thinks W lost
Nam [-\]: p13
shashwat [7k?\]: kim thinks w ost
danielhast [?\]: but very close
Kolie34A: yep
superpal1 [1d\]: \\o/ LSD \\o/
Ilyo: Kim thinks W lost.. but Kim didn't take time to count... \
so idk
Anatoly [2d?\]: Kim: "White lost"
usaocean: sorry, but what is CS?
gogonuts [4d\]: that's bot-typical
kadoban [?\]: Strategy doesn't really change between chinese rules \
and japanese rules very commonly, only in really late endgame, \
and it's super small differences.
hojyosoun [1d\]: Counter Strike
GoIngo [?\]: cs thinks black wins by 11 +-7 now
shashwat [7k?\]: o12 o13 played out
Nam [-\]: p13 good sente
gitpush [5k?\]: I cant save thé game with the app ??
GoIngo [?\]: cs=crazy stone
eatramen [?\]: i dont think the difference is small]
;B[nh]
C[ingen [?\]: CounterStrike: Baduk
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Myungwan Kim says that alphago has won the game.]
;W[ng]
C[usaocean: why is cs a reliable estimator?]

;B[lg]
C[botBot: Wow!
BobWhoosta [2d\]: If that's true, I don't see how Lee Sedol can \
win this match.
Kolie34A: oh
ingen [?\]: CS isn't, it's just stronger than most of us
skillup [5d\]: just m12
Woogey [6k\]: guess if w play f9 the whole black group is under \
pressure, or?
Ellyboo [9k\]: kim knows his onions
USSRMan [3d\]: wow this is a pro sequence
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Black played another move that surprised Redmond
Kolie34A: m12,right
feeldabern [4d\]: m13 very nice
narugo [1d\]: oh noes bllack is good in this
BobWhoosta [2d\]: Wow.
BongoBob [-\]: I think people are using crazystone as a measurement \
to gauge the robot side of the equation here.
justhinkin [1k\]: play sedol
rs220675 [2d\]: but how can it be if a moment ago white was ahead?
covert [?\]: I am completely lost. (ScoreEstimator [9d\] reckons \
it's for Black.)]
;W[lh]
C[GoIngo [?\]: hi pippen
Trevoke [?\]: Wow. He's using... Every second.
BobWhoosta [2d\]: That's call I can say, AlphaGo plays really \
human moves, with some startling originality in its play.
Elios: wow AlphaGo's endgame is godly 
rs220675 [2d\]: hi ingo
oonicks: now i am getting scared i will misread things with seedol:/
Tictactoe [-\]: SE{30k} can't count chinese
eatramen [?\]: B+time
Codexus [7k?\]: SE can't count anything
GoIngo [?\]: just in time for final slaughter
botBot: SE is build for japanese rules
gogonuts [4d\]: i think myungwan is right
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: is sedol on his last 60 seconds?]
;B[mg]
C[IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: ie sudden death?
gogonuts [4d\]: s15 was too slow
Reym [-\]: yes
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Yes, barcode
feeldabern [4d\]: this is nice bonus for b]
;W[og]
C[royu [4d\]: there hasn't been a ko yet in either game... i think \
lee sedol should force an important ko next game
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Commentators now say "Lee Sedol has not had \
a happy expression on his face for a good ten minutes now..."
cheater [8d\]: I think Lee Sedol knows, he will lose the match
BongoBob [-\]: I think he was trying to force the Ko this game \
earlier, was he not?
oonicks: sounds like a good trick to me, make 3 4 ko's on the \
board]
;B[kg]
C[cekalo [1k\]: omg
kadoban [?\]: Wasn't there at least one ko in the fan hui matches? \
I don't know why you'd expect it'd have gotten worse at ko in \
the meantime.
Trevoke [?\]: Ah, AlphaGo didn't take the "safe move" that Redmond \
pointed out]

;W[ni]
C[feeldabern [4d\]: big sente gain for b
botBot: b gained!
narugo [1d\]: lee seedol sweat, sounds bad
trippin [2k\]: b wins
Sachan [?\]: b just won
botBot: lee sedol sigh..
Fate [2d\]: alphago is winning this ...
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: oonicks - I *think* the Google engineer said \
that AlphaGo is not programmed to try to take advantage of the \
opponent's short time remaining
USSRMan [3d\]: b completely won
Sachan [?\]: resignation happening soon
Ellyboo [9k\]: by now redmont must know alpha is better than him.
XioLyTu: unbelievable
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: stop pessimism]
;B[jh]
C[USSRMan [3d\]: resign the kgs way
USSRMan [3d\]: wait for timer to run out
ingen [?\]: Redmond activating his own computer mind
Sachan [?\]: not pessimistic, sedol played an amazing game
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: kgs way is just escape\\\\
Ilyo: the kgs way? leaving and not signing in for a week?
cheater [8d\]: he is thinking whether he should resign now or \
later
oonicks: well statistical analyses of 30000x moves on kgs would \
still teach you that:)
Yumi [8d\]: :(
Ellyboo [9k\]: resign after count. hahahaha
royu [4d\]: kgs way would be to leave table and not come back... \
he can do it three times before it counts as loss
Codexus [7k?\]: isn't the kgs way just escape?
Elios: take it counting 
justhinkin [1k\]: n2?
Nam [-\]: k11 sente or n11?
ingen [?\]: @royu rofl
Eternal6k [6k?\]: USSR right]
;W[na]
C[shashwat [7k?\]: b+15 or so, redmond may have said
Anatoly [2d?\]: Kim: "Lee lost again, so sad.. This is over"
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: looks like i may lose some bitcoin
Turnipsi [1k\]: not 15 :)
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Shashwat - Yeah, sounded like it, but he didn't \
seem to completely finish his thought?]
;B[ki]
C[Kolie34A: anyway,black win
rs220675 [2d\]: now i think good chance sedol gets swept the whole \
series]
;W[mi]
C[skillup [5d\]: ？？？
gogonuts [4d\]: resign time
USSRMan [3d\]: bad endgame moves
USSRMan [3d\]: but black way ahead
Sachan [?\]: who would have thought sedol would be losing all \
the games ;x]

;B[ji]
C[BobWhoosta [2d\]: Wow, it's over.
python111: cant believe sedol made that mistake
Kolie34A: oh no
Sachan [?\]: well theres one more game right?
Ellyboo [9k\]: i would have]
;W[nc]
C[Elios: at lest
gitpush [5k?\]: Now the good question will be can Lee win a game
cekalo [1k\]: cool
Tsuijin [1d?\]: Hehe bot doing pity endgame now.
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: rs220675 - Especially since AlphaGo is not \
programmed to maximize score.... it's programmed to win as safely \
as possible by at least 0.5
Hanzo [2k?\]: Would resign early... :(
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: can someone tell sedol that i have bet some \
bitcoin on him
Ephidel [1k\]: oh what?
Nam [-\]: nice change
Yumi [8d\]: lee still has a chance]
;B[mb]
C[tengen9001: this is history of mankind
dfhdff: does cs say b win ?
Nam [-\]: p15
oonicks: if it was programmed not to take advantage of time it \
would have given seedol an hour an hour ago
ingen [?\]: would be "funny" if AlphaGo wins all games by 0.5 \
exactly ;P
Dmitrii [3k\]: p16 
Ephidel [1k\]: oh god. it's going to win half point
skillup [5d\]: p16 is not such big..
USSRMan [3d\]: nope yumi, alphago played millions of games alreeady \
and it will win by 0.5
Kolie34A: more than0.5
Elios: unknown to every one Google left AlphaGo on the Teaching \
game setting 
GoIngo [?\]: cs: 67 % for black
skillup [5d\]: he has to go n17
Codexus [7k?\]: alphago doesn't use dynamic komi in its mcts AFAIK]
;W[od]
C[Nam [-\]: p16
RyanQu [2d?\]: N17 must be
Trevoke [?\]: I'm holding my breath. I'm actually holding my breath.
mcsquared [5k\]: wat
RyanQu [2d?\]: oh no..
shashwat [7k?\]: what
Rankachan [6k\]: omg
JBoutte [5k\]: Nom de dieu  :p
goalie [13k?\]: ?
Nam [-\]: n17 realy
mcsquared [5k\]: wait, i don't see much moku here
gomathgo [1k\]: LOL no way
goalie [13k?\]: i can see this move
gaia001 [5k\]: gooo lee!
mcsquared [5k\]: maybe i'm just a scrub
mcsquared [5k\]: but
Anatoly [2d?\]: relax guys.. Alpha will win by 0.5
XioLyTu: just: WOW
gaia001 [5k\]: :D
feeldabern [4d\]: n19
ingen [?\]: HUMANS !]
;B[mc]
;W[oc]
C[feeldabern [4d\]: or maybe not
Tsuijin [1d?\]: Good guy alpha.
feeldabern [4d\]: not thinking
ohiioi: B wins ?
cheater [8d\]: 14 points doesn't help white
Kolie34A: whoa
Rankachan [6k\]: lee
Meloe [-\]: so nice !!!!
royu [4d\]: alpha just reducing its risk from its point of view
Ephidel [1k\]: whaaat??????
Rankachan [6k\]: Lee !!!
Azal [2d\]: yeah
Tsuijin [1d?\]: If it beats sedol by too much it will get lonely \
at top.
cekalo [1k\]: what did alpha do??
Elios: lol
rs220675 [2d\]: I think alphago is beginning to humiliate sedol^^, \
another step to become like a human^^
GoIngo [?\]: hmm, cs down to 61 %
gogonuts [4d\]: dont get your hopes up
gaia001 [5k\]: LEE CAN DOIT 
skillup [5d\]: good game
XioLyTu: l2
glasszee [3k\]: ...
oonicks: here we see how lee sedol and not ai is destined to \
rule the universe
wolvie [?\]: \\:D/
skillup [5d\]: game over
jazzkatsu [9k\]: its just proof that alpha knows it will win
gitpush [5k?\]: Alpha is nice with Lee playing tutoring game 
shashwat [7k?\]: what's jie saying?
gogonuts [4d\]: this means alphago had reserves
Nam [-\]: why he do p17?
BongoBob [-\]: oh those persistent hallucinations.
Seijuro [3k\]: funny like kim and redmond are saying exaclty the \
same evaluation in the same time
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago is way ahead so thats why its playing suboptimal
lofuchi [3k\]: i don't understand this game anymore
Kolie34A: Their difference is around 10pts
gitpush [5k?\]: Kind of sad 
Nam [-\]: why not use r15?]
;B[kr];W[ms]
C[Ellyboo [9k\]: white dies in corner
Kolie34A: why
Rankachan [6k\]: ..
danielhast [?\]: Kim thinks W winning by a little now, but still \
recounting
Sigrosa [7k\]: this game is so CRAZY
ingen [?\]: reallllly want to see how AlphaGo handles byoyomi
m1m [1k\]: either b wins 0.5]
;B[io]
C[WinPooh [3k\]: Alpha reduces to +0.5 pts
XioLyTu: something like a14? or so?
oonicks: i always think so about this phase the high dans get \
really good at counting
USSRMan [3d\]: "i fail to see why a bad move will have a higher \
winning percentage"
Kolie34A: but b still leading bit :(
rs220675 [2d\]: i also think alpha go plays safe now and gives \
away chances to just carry home the win
Haymaker [?\]: who's ahead?
Azal [2d\]: it is secure 
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: is alphago making mistakes because it thinks \
its so far ahhead it doesnt matter?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: USSRMan - Yeah]
;W[ip]
C[Turnipsi [1k\]: "I don't really see how a bad move might have \
a better winning percentage, but that's my human weakness, I \
guess"
WinPooh [3k\]: I hate this +0.5 thing when playing my mobile phone \
:)
royu [4d\]: anyone who has played strong bots many times, even \
on KGS, knows that these kinds of moves just means AlphaGo has \
already mapped the end out
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I doubt AlphaGo will do anything but flawless \
yose at this point however
Sachan [?\]: she's playing a teaching game obvs ;^)
Codexus [7k?\]: playing suboptimal moves when winning is the computer's \
way to make fun of humans
ingen [?\]: if Lee wins, how hard is he going to party tonight?
cheater [8d\]: Black + 10-15 maybe
InMedio [10k?\]: someone has the link for the "without-comment-game" \
?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: But Lee Sedol may not be flawless yose.]

;B[jo]
C[Trevoke [?\]: Redmond: "Everything is going as I'm foreseeing, \
*of course*"]
;W[jn]
C[Gotham88 [4k\]: what dan level is lee?
Gotham88 [4k\]: anyone know?
BongoBob [-\]: party? he's still got another 3 really challenging \
games ahead.
ingen [?\]: Redmons is the Oracle
skillup [5d\]: j2 rather big
gogonuts [4d\]: lee will be shaken even if he wins
Trevoke [?\]: Lee Sedol is 9P
USSRMan [3d\]: lee has no chance
royu [4d\]: alpha is just reducing its risk from its PoV. if it \
was really losing, it would play crazy moves to increase volatility
Gotham88 [4k\]: 9P?
Kolie34A: yes
Gotham88 [4k\]: that's the highest?!!
Sachan [?\]: lee is 9P I think 2nd ranked in the world?
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago has played so many games at this point, \
and everything says he wins
ingen [?\]: yes 9p is highest
Sachan [?\]: if not first]
;B[ir]
C[ingen [?\]: Lee is ranked in top 5
fx03 [2k\]: Hi, alpha go is 11p?
botBot: AlphaGo = 12p
GoIngo [?\]: cs: 67 % for Black
kadoban [?\]: 3rd of 4th ranked I thought, but he's up there.
Ellyboo [9k\]: lee was 9p now alphago is 9p he is 8p
Gotham88 [4k\]: wow. he's that good!
gitpush [5k?\]: Gotham Lee is a go legend 
Kolie34A: then who is 1st]
;W[hr]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Haha Ellyboo. Them's the breaks
mcsquared [5k\]: ke jie is 1st atm
fx03 [2k\]: What is this, Lee lose again?
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: realisticaly is thre still chance of w win
Ilyo: "I need to count again though"
USSRMan [3d\]: nope
Elios: if the power at Google goes out.... yes
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: lllllllllll0 - Pros are still not certain. \
It must be super close]
;B[ql]
C[Gotham88 [4k\]: when did lee lose?
USSRMan [3d\]: alphago played like 200m similations already, and \
lee loses
tengen9001: when?: first move
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Gotham88 - Yesterday, vs. AlphaGo
Gotham88 [4k\]: oo
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: if i could id like to +3 minutes to sedol
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I think there are a few more games scheduled \
the next few days
Gotham88 [4k\]: okay, tahnks. 
skillup [5d\]: the problem is not whether sedol can win but when \
he resigns
sloy [1k\]: Computer is unbeatable for yose part. 
Gotham88 [4k\]: thanks*
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: lllllll0 - Haha yes.
Yumi [8d\]: maybe lee wins 3-2
Kolie34A: pressure on sedol
Kolie34A: I hope so,yumi
WinPooh [3k\]: Lee can win due to power outage or hardware bug...
feeldabern [4d\]: lee will have to fight hard to win just 1
trippin [2k\]: lee sedol gets a break tomorrow
USSRMan [3d\]: lol optimistic
Mneme [2k\]: hard time for Lee Sedol
oonicks: b only needs to make about two points iut of the whole \
centre where is now playing
trippin [2k\]: no game right?
USSRMan [3d\]: 5-0 sweep
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: or software bug
Codexus [7k?\]: no game tomorrow :(
sloy [1k\]: Pressure can only be an Sedol :)))]

;W[rl]
C[XioLyTu: in last sec 
Yumi [8d\]: have some faith in lee..
XioLyTu: LOL :D
dfhdff: hes so fast with his stone
Kolie34A: 1sec...
danielhast [?\]: B almost in byo-yomi, just 4m left
Sachan [?\]: sedol can win if alphago decides she wants to lose
eatramen [?\]: yes, please have faith in lee
fx03 [2k\]: Alpha will fins weird nove and win
Gotham88 [4k\]: the programmer for alhpago is brilliant
lofuchi [3k\]: would byo-yomi affect alphaGo
RyanQu [2d?\]: Gu li said B got 3pts better
ingen [?\]: AlphaGo resign pls
fx03 [2k\]: Will find
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: redmond is getting frustrated at chris
trippin [2k\]: redmond laying the smackdown]
;B[qm];W[rm]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Michael calm down
trippin [2k\]: haha
trippin [2k\]: "are you looking shocked?"
Hanzo [2k?\]: xDDDDD
narugo [1d\]: black ahead says redmond
USSRMan [3d\]: giving up q17 stones for l10 stones was so kyuish, \
but apparently it gives highest winning probability
guest345: lee is not really using his byoyomi ... just play when \
there are 55 seconds left ...
Answer3 [9d?\]: the exchange Black lost only 1~2 point
Ilyo: HE keeps going down to one second
adancassan [13k?\]: Garlock's face and silence :)
shashwat [7k?\]: black's still ahead
Sachan [?\]: they seem so sad
shashwat [7k?\]: :\\
Elios: "yeah"
KobeGote [6k?\]: Kim says black is ahead as well
danielhast [?\]: Kim also says B ahead by 2.5
botBot: Live youtube video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Redmond "White has 70-75, Black has 90"
Trevoke [?\]: W has about 75, B has about 90 points
botBot: B ahead +10
Trevoke [?\]: According to Redmond
Answer3 [9d?\]: maybe Alpha choose clear way
Tictactoe [-\]: commentators are tired after a 4 hour and 15 minute \
show
ingen [?\]: bad mistake in end?
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: score estimator says sedol wins 4.5
lofuchi [3k\]: perhaps if it is other pros they would have resigned \
already, but not Lee
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: yay!!!!
fx03 [2k\]: Who is alpha b or
Gotham88 [4k\]: w winning?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: I'm tired, too! It's 3:13am here
Asgard [2k\]: ALPHAGO 5-0 ))) win 5 game
goalie [13k?\]: M5 = must
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: This has been a long game
zampa [-\]: its 9:13am here
gomathgo [1k\]: 3:13 am checking in
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: But exciting
gobanhh: what says gu li?
gaia001 [5k\]: 6.12am here
goalie [13k?\]: i mean N5
zampa [-\]: been up all night....
Azal [2d\]: 5:20 am ....
gobanhh: http://www.douyutv.com/533882
Gims [-\]: ~~played B a5 b7 
Trevoke [?\]: 3:13, gonna get a solid 3 hours of sleep. WOOHOO]
;B[ln]
C[JBoutte [5k\]: damn these time zones !]
;W[kn]
C[trippin [2k\]: lee wants to play the game out?
fx03 [2k\]: I vote alpha for 100% winrate forever
MrGimbap [11k?\]: 6 pm for me :)
InMedio [10k?\]: to get lucky ?
Answer3 [9d?\]: I think Black is alead 1.5~2.5 point
JBoutte [5k\]: @Trevoke : same fight here :)
Sachan [?\]: alphago will only get better so yeah..
mcsquared [5k\]: To anybody who might be taking score estimator \
seriously: Please don't, it's seriously so off.
ingen [?\]: hopefully AlphaGo has problem with byoyomi
ausrussell [4k\]: time for bed
USSRMan [3d\]: so where was white's mistake?
Answer3 [9d?\]: but Black's victory is clear
kaliya [-\]: You forgot A5 B7
Ephidel [1k\]: how come W played B7 and not A7
cxcv: maybe Lee is already in denial mode
Nam [-\]: r9
Gims [-\]: ~~~ a5 b7  before m6 l6]

;B[ao];W[bm]
C[Ephidel [1k\]: w needs every point he can get
Gotham88 [4k\]: G10 still alive.
Tictactoe [-\]: true
fx03 [2k\]: Lee lose
XioLyTu: n5
XioLyTu: was played
Hanzo [2k?\]: Defenitly
Gotham88 [4k\]: are u guys trolling? lee winning right?
Asgard [2k\]: I think Black is alead 2.5~4.5 point
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Game is almost over, might as well play the \
last few moves instead of resign
gitpush [5k?\]: Maybe alphago will change the value of komi]
;B[mo];W[be]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: #notafluke
Kolie34A: I think B+3.5
Yumi [8d\]: all these "lee lose" comments aren't exactly helping
gogonuts [4d\]: can lee even win 1?
Yumi [8d\]: i want lee to win
rs220675 [2d\]: i still hope lee plays it through, you never know \
with these bots
BongoBob [-\]: still 3 more games...]
;B[ae]
C[Fate [2d\]: more like human wins
Kolie34A: maybe,possible
js13 [1k\]: bot not getting tired, wasn't it?
goalie [13k?\]: A14]

;W[af]
C[Nam [-\]: why not d16 first?
USSRMan [3d\]: well, where was Lee's mistake? if it played perfect \
and still lost
Ellyboo [9k\]: will lee insist on losing three more?
USSRMan [3d\]: 5-0 sweep it is]
;B[ad]
C[eatramen [?\]: me too Yumi :(
Yumi [8d\]: USSRMan, I think not.
Reym [-\]: let's try a ko next time
Aram [3k\]: i hope lee sedol wins at least one :/
dfhdff: w loses even with sente
Kolie34A: Go sedol
Ilyo: idk if I should be excited or sad..
dfhdff: its not close
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: USSRMan - Suboptimal fuseki or incorrect strategic \
decisions in early and mid-game
Ilyo: Sedol you can do it!
Nam [-\]: d16
ingen [?\]: hm, maybe 4 hour time control next time would be good? \
or better for computer still?
zavion [2k\]: b+3
WinPooh [3k\]: What happened, Lee? You promised to win 5-0
Yumi [8d\]: this is so disheartening
Sachan [?\]: USSRMan Michael thinks the l11 exchange is what killed \
sedol or at least thats what he's talking about now
goren22 [2k\]: .
Codexus [7k?\]: 2 days ago, everbody was expecting Lee to win \
5-0, maybe 4-1
Ephidel [1k\]: nooooo
Nam [-\]: or a13
goalie [13k?\]: D8 big , i think
lofuchi [3k\]: the doom for humanity has arrived
Garp [11k\]: Please win fast Lee, have to go to work...
Gotham88 [4k\]: really?
Gotham88 [4k\]: lee expected to win?
Gotham88 [4k\]: 5 game in a row?]
;W[ma]
C[Kolie34A: yea
gogonuts [4d\]: lrr lost
Nam [-\]: b had a13 
Ilyo: I figured he'd lose the first... But I had high hopes for \
this one
kadoban [?\]: Lee expected it to be 4-1 or 5-0
hemster [-\]: more time for human needed, no doubt.]
;B[la]
C[gogonuts [4d\]: that was precient :-9
RedLeaf [5d\]: i think B+13.5
Seijuro [3k\]: It would be funny that AlphaGo is just so ahead \
that all the not optimal move it plays is just "ok in fact I \
don't care"
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: thanks chris
gitpush [5k?\]: It is no big deal, IA have become better than \
actual humans, someday we will find our heroe :-) 
KobeGote [6k?\]: I think that it's worth pushing AlphaGo into \
Byo-Yomi to test their time management :P
ingen [?\]: yes... like, maybe Lee's move in top right, AlphaGo \
expected it
eatramen [?\]: actually a day before the match, lee was way less \
confident after learning about how alphago works
Hanzo [2k?\]: It's so sad ;(
Ilyo: I think it's around B+4.5 with komi
Elios: Google programed it to not win by to much >.>
RedLeaf [5d\]: not possible for 4.55
Kolie34A: pressure on sedol...
hemster [-\]: don't be sad, human needs more time, thats it
RedLeaf [5d\]: 4.5*
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Lee is still using ALL 59.9 seconds of his \
byo-yomi periods
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: lee should have insisted on like 20 unofficial \
games so he could get a sense of how computer plays
Codexus [7k?\]: eatramen, he didn't research that earlier?
rs220675 [2d\]: i hope alphago really brings it down to .5 - owning \
sedol...and he probably doesn't realize it^^
Kolie34A: 2sec]
;W[oa]
C[IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: not being able to prepare for opponents style \
is disadvantage
trippin [2k\]: kim saying alphago may sweep
XioLyTu: p19
eatramen [?\]: not according to what i read
eatramen [?\]: i think w/e presentation Deep Mind did in Korea \
before the match, must have scared him a bit]

;B[dd]
C[royu [4d\]: Ke Jie challenged Alpha Go on Weibo
Kolie34A: oh really?
gitpush [5k?\]: Maybe he has trained before and that's why he \
was less confident days ago 
gogonuts [4d\]: chris: I'm confident of your counting
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: AlphaGo is in byo-yomi time now
gogonuts [4d\]: micheal: thank you
Ilyo: Yeah of course Jie would challenge alpha go.... JIE IS \
ALPHA GO
Kolie34A: alphago in byo-yomi
Yumi [8d\]: well alphago in byo yomi wouldn't mean much
SimeonG [?\]: Good Guy Micheal
gogonuts [4d\]: i think he would like a different sidekick :-)]
;W[bg]
C[Nam [-\]: r9
bababobo [1d?\]: tempting w m18
RedLeaf [5d\]: hmm, probably B +7.5
Codexus [7k?\]: unless there is a bug that could make it lose \
on time
asd: Redmond is dishing out the burns
lofuchi [3k\]: the game is going to end soon anyway, so AlphaGo \
might already have got the best sequence
ingen [?\]: AlphaGo vs. Sai, who would win?]
;B[lb]
C[eatramen [?\]: i feel sad for lee]
;W[pn]
C[Sachan [?\]: alphago
kadoban [?\]: alphago is sai, heh.
eatramen [?\]: the whole world put so much pressure on him
Yumi [8d\]: lee's pride....
Kolie34A: the ko still didn't finish
cxcv: He is just the scapegoat
hemster [-\]: lee just need more time
ingen [?\]: Lee still playing brilliantly
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Redmond says the ko isn't even enough points \
to change the game so AlphaGo doesn't care
eatramen [?\]: lee sedol is losing to save go in the west
Kolie34A: reducing territory
hemster [-\]: human can't play perfect in 2hr limit
Kolie34A: yea
eatramen [?\]: he is the go savior]
;B[on]
C[ingen [?\]: he shoudl feel good about this, especially within \
2 hours
Madzilla [1d?\]: Looks like Lee was right - it's going to be 5-0 \
or 4-1
enki [?\]: humans suck
RedLeaf [5d\]: 15-7.5, ~7.5, i think lee would resign soon
Madzilla [1d?\]: just not for him
kaliya [-\]: humans created Alpha, so they don't suck
gogonuts [4d\]: this game will leave a huge mark on lee
ingen [?\]: wonder why not 8 hour time controls
narugo [1d\]: redmond very  good commentator
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: gogonuts - In what way?
Madzilla [1d?\]: yes, because this game Lee played good and still \
lost
ingen [?\]: like Meijin matches
hemster [-\]: 8 hours lee win for sure
Aram [3k\]: 8 hours would make alphago stonrger, but prorobly \
not Lee
eatramen [?\]: lee came to win this game
gogonuts [4d\]: confidence crusher
rs220675 [2d\]: @enki: considering our "hardware" we're REAL winners
Hollowb55 [11k\]: Actyally Alphas father is Human mother is computer. \
xD
eatramen [?\]: losing is gonna crush him
kakamaka: i just logged on to KGS for the first time in forever \
just to ask, who is this dude talking to redmond]

;W[er]
C[kakamaka: and why is he talking
ingen [?\]: Chris Garlock
Kolie34A: B+6.5
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Lol
Codexus [7k?\]: "humans didn't suck they were just an intermediate \
stage of evolution before the machines took over"  - AlphaGo \
2020
JBoutte [5k\]: No Red, don't say utopic things like that :p
oonicks: the problem is digital thinking cosists of rbeaks, so \
lee should be givcen 200^100 breaks of say an hour in a match
cxcv: aggressive - not working ; playing safe - not working]
;B[cr]
C[Aram [3k\]: Alphago played much worse against Fan Hui in the unofficial \
quick games, so a slow game would at least according to that \
favour alphago
Trevoke [?\]: He's with the AGA and it's partly thanks to him \
that this is all set up and we have the live stream with Redmond
Nam [-\]: f4
RedLeaf [5d\]: lee's expression shows his devastation
Kolie34A: Too much pressure on sedol
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: RedLeaf - Yeah....
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: redmond keeps trying to talk about hte moves \
and chris keeps trying to talk crap
enki [?\]: if lee sedol loses, all of humanity loses and we'll \
be slaves
Hanzo [2k?\]: Pour Lee =(
ingen [?\]: He can't even look his opponent in the face... just \
a screen]
;W[fp]
C[Sachan [?\]: lee does look like he's gonna cry, thats sad :(
mamouth [4d\]: how's ahaed?
gitpush [5k?\]: B wins and let o18 die its so sad 
Elios: wow i feel bad for him right now
Sachan [?\]: also is he not going to get any tournament money \
now?
shashwat [7k?\]: they're saying B+5 or os
cxcv: I think top pros are somehow immune to pressure
BongoBob [-\]: Lee's expression has been one of near-despair a \
few times tonight.
eatramen [?\]: im really feeling for lee
wry [3d\]: I'd look the same if I thought I was about to get $1m \
but then, NOPE :'(
Elios: he just doesnt know what do to]
;B[iq]
C[RedLeaf [5d\]: he knows this game is lost
Kolie34A: endgame
eatramen [?\]: it's psychologically tough playing against a machine
Ellyboo [9k\]: cannot beat western technology
enki [?\]: wry: you're gonna get $1m.. but then.. nope, gonna \
keep it
BongoBob [-\]: first look of despair was earlier with the... h11 \
pincer
js13 [1k\]: SAI! aja huang played with sai beside him
Sachan [?\]: yeah black ahead by like 10 points ;x]
;W[hq]
C[XiJinping2 [7k?\]: BongoBob - Lee Sedol walked out for 5+ minutes \
when P10 first dropped
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: sedol may be getting data on alphago's endgame
Sachan [?\]: alphago could give sedol a stone for the next game \
:/
ingen [?\]: yea, playing a machine is brutal -- knowing that it \
does not feel pain or fatigue, can be daunting
axonn: its about 1.000.000 dollar! ofc he is not immune to pressure \
when it comes to that much cash
gogonuts [4d\]: d10 and s15 were too soft in retrospect
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: since he unfairly is playing against an opponent \
with no knowledge of how opponent plays
goalie [13k?\]: back is behind
cxcv: The situation is extremely clear now
BongoBob [-\]: ah yes, P10 indeed. Didn't see his face then.
Gotham88 [4k\]: one stone is too much
bababobo [1d?\]: now SE is more accurate]

;B[qj]
C[mate105 [1d\]: T.T
shashwat [7k?\]: does SE score with chinese scoring?
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: nice looking watch?
BongoBob [-\]: but I did see his expression for H11.. and that \
was a look of such dread.
shashwat [7k?\]: even if it's incorrect
Hoshiman [2k?\]: What does se say?
cekalo [1k\]: expansive watch lol
cheater [8d\]: B+13,5
Gotham88 [4k\]: match at 4 season seoul
straits [5k\]: SE scores grossly incorrectly with Chinese rules.
fx03 [2k\]: What if alpha can give 9 stones and win? Lol
cxcv: Even if black were Ayabot, she would definitely still take \
the game
BobWhoosta [2d\]: I think white will resign here.
Nam [-\]: b finish good
pollux1: se sees g10 dead
BobWhoosta [2d\]: He just looks like it's time.
Hanzo [2k?\]: AlphaGo is 10p!
Gotham88 [4k\]: what's the chinese rule
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Man, these commentators have been up in front \
fo this board for four hours nonstop
feeldabern [4d\]: i counted b + 7.5
Nam [-\]: g10 leaved
Kolie34A: sedol don't know what to do
WinPooh [3k\]: Lee, what about giving two stones to Alphago?
feeldabern [4d\]: after komi]
;W[rj]
C[kadoban [?\]: Oh man, so brutal last couple of minutes of kim
enki [?\]: 5-0
mafutrct [-\]: link to kim?
royu [4d\]: one of the most sombering thoughts... a professional \
like lee sedol dedicated his entire life to reach his level in \
Go, yet a software engineer created a program in a few years \
that is stronger and has applications outside of Go
DeBut [2k\]: komi 0.5 &
oonicks: 7.5 would be a telling score
kadoban [?\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
enki [?\]: remind me to never bet on humans again
BongoBob [-\]: will the robot have to give lee 1 stone handi next \
match?
mafutrct [-\]: thx
bababobo [1d?\]: w could resign now
kakamaka: res
Tsuijin [1d?\]: W resign.
IIIllIIll0 [7k\]: :(
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Resign???
Sachan [?\]: resigned
miai [1d\]: resigned
Beleragor [7k\]: yep
LupusEst [3k\]: b+12
JBoutte [5k\]: Damn Lee
jimmyl97 [1k?\]: gg
Beleragor [7k\]: sad
js13 [1k\]: whattts
Tictactoe [-\]: B + Res
Rephos [23k\]: ggggg
Aram [3k\]: roya, a team of some of the best software engineers \
building upon ten years of research of other brilliant researches.. \
not 1 engineer
Codexus [7k?\]: Congrats AlphaGo
ingen [?\]: noooooooooooooooo
foofoo: bot+res :(
js13 [1k\]: sad sad
appa [11k?\]: gg
eatramen [?\]: omg..
oonicks: i go for 7.5
Kolie34A: resigned!!!!
Fujiwara56 [19k?\]: :(
gaia001 [5k\]: :(
narugo [1d\]: whaat so sad
Bursar [1d\]: wow
Kolie34A: :(
Louloute: :(
gejimayu [2d?\]: over?
Tictactoe [-\]: Thanks all for watching the game
Elios: wow
Kolie34A: sedol!!!!!!
playerx [1k?\]: this is the end of the world
Azal [2d\]: :(
ingen [?\]: =( BibleThump
jimmyl97 [1k?\]: lee resign
eatramen [?\]: gonna become a poker player
cxcv: ...
Naphthalin [10k?\]: thx for realying the game TTT !
Nam [-\]: thx tictac
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Lee Sedol is BUMMED OUT right now
BigDoug [-\]: nice job TTT
GoIngo [?\]: congrats to the alphago team
ingen [?\]: please show press conference
Kolie34A: tomorrow next game?
BongoBob [-\]: thank you tic tac toe.
gejimayu [2d?\]: wow, thanks for the replay, Tictactoe!
narugo [1d\]: end of humanity
Gotham88 [4k\]: wow..
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Why resign? Can somebody explain?
ingen [?\]: thanks Tictactoe !
Komachi [?\]: thank you Tictactoe.
Ephidel [1k\]: sigh
Gotham88 [4k\]: isnt' g 9 alive?
df1276: HMMM
skillup [5d\]: Good game 
Ellyboo [9k\]: tictac thanks for the game. bravo! bellissima
Sachan [?\]: super grats to alphago programers they did an amazing \
job, and lee shouldnt feel too bad ;-; he played a great game \
too 
GoIngo [?\]: thx tictactoe !
TaoTao: !
Ephidel [1k\]: yes, but he's just behind
Doli [7k?\]: ggwp
pabl0 [8k\]: thanks
BongoBob [-\]: now, let's go praise our new robbit overlords.
Yumi [8d\]: ..........................................................................................
Ephidel [1k\]: and can't do anything about it
df1276: so 5k = 20CPU soon?
Kolie34A: Alphago 2-0 Lee Sedol
Rankachan [6k\]: ................
indogo [11k?\]: thanks tictactoe
Eternal6k [6k?\]: Thanks tictactoe
rs220675 [2d\]: sedol looks beaten..oh boy
FlightA2 [7k\]: ty
Rankachan [6k\]: sad sad
Nam [-\]: lol yumi you get 8d
eatramen [?\]: im sooooo sad omg
RedLeaf [5d\]: 2-0
fx03 [2k\]: Ke jie cant win too, its like Kasparov godnes mode \
is over
RedLeaf [5d\]: ^^
ingen [?\]: why they not show press conferences
AngelReal [4k\]: see really lost here ?
AndEdhel [4k\]: I join bongobob... in case it's eecorded
USSRMan [3d\]: lol its endgame is amazing
kdbaby14 [6k\]: he resign
AndEdhel [4k\]: recorded ^^
ArcticDawn [6k\]: you know, eventually robot will beat human players \
in go.
Parklane [7k?\]: :/
AngelReal [4k\]: What's the count ?
js13 [1k\]: please send ke jie or someone
enki [?\]: endgame has been long solvable.. computers never lose \
in endgame
ArcticDawn [6k\]: Even if Lee wins right now
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: What a great game
Hoshiman [2k?\]: He resigned?
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: See you for the next one
ghaele [4d?\]: yes
Fubini [1k\]: yes
julbla [4k\]: yeah
ArcticDawn [6k\]: yeah resigned
Gotham88 [4k\]: how close is it?
Madzilla [1d?\]: Ke Jie is not going to do any better than Lee \
Sedol
Gotham88 [4k\]: 1,5 points?
narugo [1d\]: tomorrow next?
Madzilla [1d?\]: for sure
shashwat [7k?\]: yep. ke jie was right
botBot: B+10
BongoBob [-\]: eventually is a lot closer than many expected, \
Arctic.
Yumi [8d\]: Ke Jie will do beetter 
wry [3d\]: <5 points
hemster [-\]: 8 hours will turn the table
USSRMan [3d\]: no B is ahead a lot
ArcticDawn [6k\]: so sad.
heather [1k\]: ( ._.)
funhouse [2k\]: wow
Rephos [23k\]: LOL\\
ArcticDawn [6k\]: I wanted to see human win!!!!
Gotham88 [4k\]: ke jie is the young chinese guy right?
adfafdsfaf: now it is just sad
BongoBob [-\]: but of course, our robbit overlords don't care \
about time like we do.
oonicks: will there be a third? computer go still refuses ko's//
ArcticDawn [6k\]: Argggggg!
hemster [-\]: human mistakes inevitable in 2 hr game
botBot: There will be 5 games
Kolie34A: when's next game?
dogbert [3d\]: OUCHY!
botBot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GsfyVCBu0
feeldabern [4d\]: b up 15 points on the board
fx03 [2k\]: You put too much on ke jie, he is not 10p
Nam [-\]: how old is ke jie?
HeartXiao [4k\]: ke jie says he's not sure he can beat alphago \
either
Elios: almost looked like AlphaGo was playing a teaching game \
at the end...
Elios: ouch
GoRoGoRo [7k?\]: Thanks to Tictactoe for relaying
Kolie34A: thx
AndEdhel [4k\]: maybe our best bet would now be iyala yuta and \
a 8h game?
hemster [-\]: yea because computer play perfect end game 
Garp [11k\]: That's sad for Lee, and really incredible for Deepmind.
crate [?\]: Sedol won 
fx03 [2k\]: Sai was computer program at all
fx03 [2k\]: Fam
fx03 [2k\]: Dam
mogoyo: post match on youtube
hemster [-\]: its like Lee Changho x100
adancassan [13k?\]: Thanks Tictactoe and everyone for this nice \
"party"!
guest345: AlphaGo vs. Iyama Yuta in a 2day per game Jubango would \
be nice
Aram [3k\]: andedhel, alphago will probobly play stronger on a \
long game, not weaker
royu [4d\]: best chance is to send SE against AlphaGo.
crate [?\]: why don't they score the stupid game
Codexus [7k?\]: it's incredible how strong go ai happened like \
overnight, in shogi top pro level has been reached in recent \
years but it was a gradual increase
Nam [-\]: alphago get 14d
Sigrosa [7k\]: I hope they use this algorithm to help people, \
it is so powerful
hojyosoun [1d\]: thank you Tictaetoe for the demo
kadoban [?\]: No point crate.
kakamaka: LOL SE vs Alphago
Nam [-\]: strongest of Go
hemster [-\]: 2 hr 9p is different from 8 hr 9p
royu [4d\]: SE will make moves that will break AlphaGo's algorithms
fx03 [2k\]: That prof google can dominante world
XiJinping2 [7k?\]: Yeah, Codexus
fx03 [2k\]: Caution
Gotham88 [4k\]: ke jie
crate [?\]: finnish the stupid score 
Gotham88 [4k\]: is born in 1997
Garp [11k\]: Thanks evryone, have a nice day/night.
crate [?\]: this sucks
Gotham88 [4k\]: 19 years old?
lofuchi [3k\]: any review on kgs?
hondra [1d?\]: i think Sedol should play manego next
rs220675 [2d\]: i hope we'll have a commercial version of alphago \
soon..then soon we'll see quite some 12d's here on KGS :)
hondra [1d?\]: oh wait he'll be black
InMedio [10k?\]: bye everyone !
fx03 [2k\]: No need to finish, obvious lee lost
fx03 [2k\]: Byr
Madzilla [1d?\]: If you replaced AlphaGo's value network with \
SE, Lee Sedol could probably beat it ;)
gobanhh: the next game is the day after tomorrow?
fx03 [2k\]: Bye
wry [3d\]: the press conference will be about disabling aplhago \
easy mode for next games, and let it play full power
Gotham88 [4k\]: https://gogameguru.com/go-commentary-ke-jie-vs-kang-dongyun-20th-lg-cup/
gobanhh: at he same hour?
JBoutte [5k\]: Nice to have shared it with you folks :)
eatramen [?\]: ke jie doesnt look phased at all
narugo [1d\]: lee needs to start K10 next game
Codexus [7k?\]: Also in shogi it's not even clear that computers \
are stronger since there hasn't been a match between a current \
title holder and  computers
fx03 [2k\]: Wry, are u kidding?
crate [?\]: redmond said the official would score the Goban
Answer3 [9d?\]: I'm pretty sure paradigm of go will be tottaly \
chcanged form today
Bruno [1d\]: black is leading :( 
Codexus [7k?\]: I would still like to see Ponanza vs Habu
Aram [3k\]: Go AI has not happened over night. A team of brilliant \
reasearches created Alphago with huge cash reserves from Google, \
building upon probobly 10 years worth of research of other brilliant \
researchers, probobly easily thousands if not 10.000 people behind \
Alphago.. saying that Lee Sedol lost to one software team or \
engineer is a gross misunderstanding. Also Alphago works on over \
1000 CPU cores and over 200 GPUs, it's incredible weak with 48 \
cpu cores and 1 GPU for example.. just stuff worth remembering \
before going all doom and gloom. Desktop computers won't reach \
Alphagos strength for another 10 years probobly. The search algorithms \
according to googles paper demands huge parallelism to work at \
all, since they are much slower than normal ones.
Codexus [7k?\]: that would settle it
fx03 [2k\]: Hwhat
crate [?\]:  they just leave it un finnished and say see ya later
kafkaesque [-\]: Lee Sedol resigned, so no scoreing, crate
fx03 [2k\]: Human go soul is destroied
hemster [-\]: no chance against bot if not leading into end game.
Madzilla [1d?\]: it's not "Increadibly weak" with 48 CPU cores \
- read their paper before you say things like that
royu [4d\]: you're making it sound as if Lee Sedol improved independently \
too Aram
crate [?\]: even with resign look at the goban
Aram [3k\]: Madzilla i did
kadoban [?\]: The way alphago plays endgame is just scary as hell.
JBoutte [5k\]: Is there any saved game here of the first game \
?
Aram [3k\]: 48 cpu cores and 1 gpu it drops 700 elo points
crate [?\]:  unfinnished
kadoban [?\]: That was amazing and ... just ... terrifying.
fx03 [2k\]: Alpha go is scary
crate [?\]: sloppy
Aram [3k\]: according to the research paper, compared with 8 gpus
Sigrosa [7k\]: does anyone know where we can see the information \
we have on alphago and how it works?
narugo [1d\]: sai needs to see this
Madzilla [1d?\]: it's stronger than Zen running on 1 computer
GoRoGoRo [7k?\]: @Aram: *yawn*
asd: it's good study material for endgame
kafkaesque [-\]: click]
)
(;W[gg]
C[blau3: RyanQu: did he? or is this just your wish?
USSRMan [3d\]: so crazy stone thinks black will win?]
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