(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]HA[2]KM[0.50]
PW[ZensGuest]PB[Zen19X]DT[2016-07-25]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19X [-\]: GTP Engine for Zen19X (black): Zen version 11.9
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[dp]
;B[pd]
;W[qp]
;B[dd]
;W[fq]
;B[cn]
;W[kq]
;B[pm]
;W[qf]
;B[qh]
;W[nd]
;B[pf]
;W[qc]
;B[qe]
;W[pc]
;B[pp]
;W[pq]
;B[oq]
;W[op]
;B[po]
;W[nq]
;B[qq]
;W[or]
;B[qr]
;W[cf]
;B[fc]
;W[bd]
;B[cc]
;W[ci]
;B[lc]
;W[nb]
;B[me]
;W[dr]
;B[cq]
;W[cl]
;B[fo]
;W[hp]
;B[ho]
;W[ip]
;B[dh]
;W[ch]
;B[df]
;W[ce]
;B[ki]
;W[jc]
;B[jd]
;W[id]
;B[je]
;W[kc]
;B[mc]
;W[nc]
;B[hb]
;W[hc]
;B[ib]
;W[ic]
;B[le]
;W[hf]
;B[hh]
;W[ff]
;B[ef]
;W[fe]
;B[fh]
;W[jb]
;B[gc]
;W[lb]
;B[mm]
;W[qj]
;B[ql]
;W[qg]
;B[pg]
;W[rh]
;B[ph]
;W[re]
;B[ri]
;W[rg]
;B[qi]
;W[km]
;B[kl]
;W[rp]
;B[qo]
;W[jl]
;B[ll]
;W[jm]
;B[bl]
;W[bm]
;B[cm]
;W[bk]
;B[dl]
;W[al]
;B[ck]
;W[dk]
;B[bl]
;W[rq]
;B[rr]
;W[cl]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: white is pro?
]
;B[mb]
;W[ma]
;B[ie]
;W[he]
;B[gd]
;W[hd]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: lol?
Kotonoha [2d\]: why don't take back?
]
;B[bl]
;W[ro]
;B[rn]
;W[cl]C[gghideki [?\]: I think he is Chun-Hsun Chou 9p
]
;B[eq]
;W[er]C[gghideki [?\]: See http://oase.nutn.edu.tw/WCCI2016/schedule_day2.htm for more info
]
;B[fp]
;W[dq]
;B[ep]
;W[gq]
;B[ek]
;W[cj]
;B[el]
;W[cr]
;B[jk]
;W[ig]
;B[jg]
;W[si]C[rsun [5d\]: could you turn on zen19x's rank, so that more people will notice
]
;B[sj]
;W[sh]
;B[rj]C[gghideki [?\]: If do so, KGS fix the handicap etc if the opponent has a rank
]
;W[qn]C[rsun [5d\]: but zensguest doesn't have a rank
gghideki [?\]: not only
noideawhy [4d?\]: and why we dont see who is zensguest
]
;B[pn]C[rsun [5d\]: sorry, I don't understand...
]
;W[sn]C[gghideki [?\]: Zen will play against not only ZensGuest
rsun [5d\]: oic
]
;B[rm]
;W[sr]C[fluislost [?\]: so zen never use handicap stones then?
rubicon [-\]: Looks like ko
]
;B[sq]
;W[sp]C[fluislost [?\]: if it has no rank,  kgs uses no handicap by default
fluislost [?\]: need to adjust handicap if want to use handicap
rsun [5d\]: I think he means other players may have a ranked account on kgs
XXNINJAXX [2d\]: if zen has no rank, heavily affects account i use to play bots :(
rsun [5d\]: and they don't want to automatically accept the default handicap
XXNINJAXX [2d\]: i deranked from 4d to 3d when zen unranked :(
]
;B[sm]
;W[pr]C[fluislost [?\]: ok im a little bit zenfused but thats ok
noideawhy [4d?\]: zenfused?
]
;B[so]C[rubicon [-\]: S10 should've been at S7
]
;W[ed]
;B[ec]
;W[sn]C[noideawhy [4d?\]: ah confused....i am not clever  lol
]
;B[rs]
;W[ps]
;B[so]
;W[ne]
;B[nf]
;W[sn]C[fluislost [?\]: m19
rubicon [-\]: T14
]
;B[io]
;W[jo]C[gghideki [?\]: Oh, this game has no tome settings!
gghideki [?\]: *time
fluislost [?\]: LOL
rsun [5d\]: fan hui's talk on alphago from EGC! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0-IWQ9TvLo
]
;B[so]C[fluislost [?\]: reset the game?
]
;W[cp]C[gghideki [?\]: not necessary, maybe
rsun [5d\]: begins at 25min
rubicon [-\]: Is there a real life clock, hideki?
]
;B[co]
;W[sn]C[fluislost [?\]: in zen logs i suppose
rubicon [-\]: If there is, then there's no need for kgs to keep track of time
rubicon [-\]: If zen is configured anyway
]
;B[qd]
;W[rd]C[Tsuke [2d\]: smells like zen win
Tsuke [2d\]: I have no clue where zens points are, so it probably means he is leading
]
;B[so]C[Tsuke [2d\]: it*
]
;W[bq]
;B[mo]C[gghideki [?\]: I have no idea how Zen plays when no time is set
fluislost [?\]: lol
rubicon [-\]: Should be set in the engine line of the gtp...
fluislost [?\]: time to call yamato ^^
rubicon [-\]: Doesn't zen have a time argument?
fluislost [?\]: rubicon, he means the source code of zen
Tsuke [2d\]: gghideki, the default time settings dont look unreasonable tho
rubicon [-\]: I'm sure it's using something, at least the default
gghideki [?\]: Ahh, I can set of course.  But for WCCI, I intentioanally didn't set
]
;W[ln]C[XXNINJAXX [2d\]: may want to set that before next game xD
Tsuke [2d\]: what does zen think about current sitaution on the board?
gghideki [?\]: wr is 75%
Tsuke [2d\]: thx, thought so.
gghideki [?\]: wr is 75%
]
;B[il]C[rubicon [-\]: Wow, pretty confident
]
;W[im]C[Tsuke [2d\]: 75% -> opponent cant resign
maproomad [-\]: Is white Chou, Chun-Hsun 9p?
gghideki [?\]: for pro, it's not so sure
gghideki [?\]: i believe so
]
;B[hm]C[gghideki [?\]: he always plays so quick :)
]
;W[ih]
;B[ii]
;W[jh]C[Tsuke [2d\]: that should get a crowd
]
;B[kh]C[XXNINJAXX [2d\]: count zen a bit ahead but lower right makes it unclear
]
;W[sn]
;B[na]
;W[oa]C[AoM [3d\]: w is a legend
xyzw [4k\]: this game is so cosmic
Tsuke [2d\]: b does have a few real threats too, but wouldnt suprise me if b can win by just playing a yose move as a ko threat
]
;B[so]
;W[mn]C[guest12: Hi, this is staff from the event, ZenGuest is indeed Chou Chun-Hsun 9P
Kotonoha [2d\]: maproomad you are great ! 
tydsh [-\]: Yes. ZenGuest is Chou Chun-Hsun 9P
guest12: yes, many thanks to maproomad
tydsh [-\]: I am just beside him
]
;B[nn]
;W[sn]C[gogoss [4k\]: take t3
Tsuke [2d\]: has the pro given any hints as to what he thinks of the situation on the board?
AoM [3d\]: w = Zhou Junxun
AoM [3d\]: I think is how most people spell it
]
;B[cg]
;W[bg]C[AoM [3d\]: or am I confusing two different pros?
gghideki [?\]: wr is 64% now
guest12: no, you got it right =)
skwisgaar [3d\]: wow he won lg cup
AoM [3d\]: thx
]
;B[so]C[guest12: it's Taiwanese romanization and Chinese romanization difference only
]
;W[nm]C[rsun [5d\]: taiwan people have different romamization
guest12: yes indeed
mcpudding [14k\]: What is on the clocks?
AoM [3d\]: no time limit
tinca [-\]: W wins
]
;B[no]C[m1m [1k\]: b tricked\\
gghideki [?\]:  Full name Chou Chun-hsun   Chinese Trad. 周俊勳 Simp. 周俊勋   Pinyin Zhōu Jùnxūn
mcpudding [14k\]: If there is no time limit why does Zen actually make moves then?
]
;W[ik]C[AoM [3d\]: ouch
tinca [-\]: center gone
gghideki [?\]: I don't remember :(
]
;B[jj]
;W[hl]C[Tsuke [2d\]: end ko?
]
;B[lp]
;W[sn]C[murky [?\]: Zen will move when it runs out of memory not time
gghideki [?\]: looks no :)
skwisgaar [3d\]: still big yose left
murky [?\]: time is for human
skwisgaar [3d\]: so ko must stay
xyzw [4k\]: i think b should have ended the ko
gghideki [?\]: Zen recycles memory :)
]
;B[kp]
;W[jp]C[murky [?\]: really? What happens to the old data?
Tsuke [2d\]: overclock cpu, disable pondering, and have zen make move when cpu temperature rises too high
murky [?\]: heh
]
;B[so]
;W[lq]C[rubicon [-\]: Lol tsuke
gghideki [?\]: Schedule: http://oase.nutn.edu.tw/WCCI2016/short_description.htm (left pane)
xyzw [4k\]: sounds risky, if the opponent responds fast, the computer may overheat
Kotonoha [2d\]: W was the 11th LG CUP champion 
]
;B[bc]
;W[sn]C[xyzw [4k\]: @tsuke
Kotonoha [2d\]: at least one time world champion ! 
skwisgaar [3d\]: so its computers vs taiwan
gghideki [?\]: Chun-Hsun Chou 9p know Zen very well...
gghideki [?\]: looks no chance
]
;B[sf]C[m1m [1k\]: no chance for whom
]
;W[rf]C[xyzw [4k\]: for b
gghideki [?\]: Black
TMD [2d?\]: why zen19a dont get online for a long time?
rubicon [-\]: For b
storn [4k\]: Surely
Am [4d\]: close
gghideki [?\]: Zen19A ran just for an experiment 
rubicon [-\]: Zen really handled that ko threat badly
]
;B[so]
;W[oe]C[gghideki [?\]: all bots manage kos worse
m1m [1k\]: take
taqpol [?\]: What is the rank of w?
Kotonoha [2d\]: 9P
gghideki [?\]: 9p
r0n1n [2d\]: 9p
storn [4k\]: Pro
Kotonoha [2d\]: 1 time world champion
taqpol [?\]: Cool
]
;B[pe]C[XXNINJAXX [2d\]: ignore ths
XXNINJAXX [2d\]: whatttt
taqpol [?\]: And b?
]
;W[sn]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: black is a bot
XXNINJAXX [2d\]: if b didn't ignore p15, then black is losing
Tsuke [2d\]: xxninja, no reason to ignore since s17 threats
taqpol [?\]: Thx
storn [4k\]: About 8d bot
storn [4k\]: Or even 9d
taqpol [?\]: I see
CptDoge [2d\]: running on nokia
gghideki [?\]: He played Zen since 2009 :)
gghideki [?\]: every year
GoNuts [3k\]: wasnt zen19a the same code as the other zen that plays on kgs?
]
;B[rc]
;W[rb]C[gghideki [?\]: yes
]
;B[so]
;W[of]C[XXNINJAXX [2d\]: white p14 will be a bigger threat than p15
Tsuke [2d\]: I can still see 1 threat for b
Tsuke [2d\]: looks bad for b
XXNINJAXX [2d\]: but if zen couldn't win getting rid of the ko, won't win with a ko
Tsuke [2d\]: xxninja, maybe zen just likes the ko?
fluislost [?\]: no time setting is so bad
fluislost [?\]: w may have lost on time
XXNINJAXX [2d\]: p15 threat is smaller than the value of the ko
AoM [3d\]: nice
fluislost [?\]: please restart the game with time
gghideki [?\]: Thanks
tinca [-\]: yup!
TMD [2d?\]: easy win
XXNINJAXX [2d\]: sad zen
TMD [2d?\]: with 3 handi
taqpol [?\]: The username aid a little but dramatic thanks
TMD [2d?\]: against i mean
Coolam [3d\]: White isquarehuman?
ThoBong [1d\]: 2 handi
tinca [-\]: zen needs more meditation about go
YoungPro [6d\]: how strong is w..
YoungPro [6d\]: ah
YoungPro [6d\]: this white is 6p right?
inquisitor [4k\]: why bot resigned?
rsun [5d\]: 9p
storn [4k\]: Too strong
rsun [5d\]: world champion
xyzw [4k\]: because b could not win the ko
ghazi [5d\]: i hope to watch the game between TUNGPO and ZenGuest
murky [?\]: bot overheated
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