(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[2700]
PW[ZensGuest]PB[Zen19X]DT[2017-07-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Zen19X [-\]: GTP Engine for Zen19X (black): Zen version 15.1
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[2694.695]
;W[dc]WL[2694.301]
;B[dq]BL[2668.75]
;W[qp]WL[2673.238]
;B[ce]BL[2663.244]
;W[ed]WL[2669.224]
;B[oq]BL[2647.811]
;W[do]WL[2664.264]
;B[eo]BL[2623.903]C[pookpooi [?\]: Love when Zen play black, it's more challenging (in chinese rule)
]
;W[en]WL[2601.708]
;B[ep]BL[2615.67]
;W[cq]WL[2599.917]
;B[dn]BL[2601.5]
;W[co]WL[2596.517]
;B[dm]BL[2586.114]
;W[cr]WL[2594.845]
;B[fn]BL[2572.476]
;W[po]WL[2575.028]
;B[bm]BL[2545.937]
;W[bn]WL[2572.887]
;B[ef]BL[2516.121]
;W[nc]WL[2563.47]
;B[ge]BL[2496.96]
;W[em]WL[2550.285]
;B[dl]BL[2481.494]
;W[fm]WL[2546.87]
;B[gn]BL[2472.685]
;W[gm]WL[2527.87]
;B[hn]BL[2448.959]C[pookpooi [?\]: Oh this is second game? I thought there's just one
]
;W[hm]WL[2521.102]
;B[im]BL[2439.383]
;W[in]WL[2504.348]
;B[hp]BL[2424.482]
;W[fj]WL[2478.352]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: what is the purpose of this game?
]
;B[di]BL[2398.51]C[gghideki [?\]: just they have time to play one more game :)
gghideki [?\]: now Zen is black
]
;W[jn]WL[2441.195]
;B[il]BL[2389.613]
;W[ip]WL[2433.862]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: ah, i just joined. So these games were planned in advance.
]
;B[iq]BL[2374.883]
;W[ho]WL[2428.891]
;B[gp]BL[2353.532]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: who is the pro player of Zen Guest this time?
]
;W[jq]WL[2427.293]
;B[jp]BL[2343.716]
;W[io]WL[2425.409]
;B[hr]BL[2336.614]
;W[ir]WL[2416.788]
;B[hq]BL[2331.491]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: white is good, who is it?
]
;W[kp]WL[2392.771]C[pookpooi [?\]: I think the same as last game, Zhou Junxun
]
;B[jr]BL[2311.148]
;W[jo]WL[2391.103]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: hmm..... the old famous taiwanese player
]
;B[kr]BL[2289.924]C[pookpooi [?\]: The purpose of this game is in Fuzz website, they'll actually create a robot (yes, robot) that can teach go
]
;W[fh]WL[2375.495]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: oh 9p :o
]
;B[kl]BL[2265.169]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: ah, nice
]
;W[np]WL[2369.875]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: Robot that can teach go !????????????
gghideki [?\]: http://oase.nutn.edu.tw/FUZZIEEE2017/schedule_day1.htm
]
;B[hj]BL[2225.342]
;W[ek]WL[2364.181]
;B[gk]BL[2200.621]C[gghideki [?\]: Chun-Hsun Chou 9p (周俊勲）
pookpooi [?\]: From their website "The final stage of our system (Stage 4) will include a robot engine, which can speak and explain in real-time the situation to Go players. To that end the ML competitors will have to supply an explanation in text of the proposed (best) moves."
Kotonoha [2d\]: Chou almost played Zen every year start from many years ago :)
gghideki [?\]: It was 2009 :)
qsefthuko [6d\]: thank you
Kotonoha [2d\]: e8 to give more pressure?
]
;W[fk]WL[2307.132]
;B[cj]BL[2177.564]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: this gote but eye shape better?
]
;W[hi]WL[2301.564]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: oh Zen defended 
qsefthuko [6d\]: G9 was a great spot by black
Kotonoha [2d\]: not actually gote :P
]
;B[ii]BL[2155.354]
;W[hh]WL[2297.189]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: white probably expected d9 instead
]
;B[ih]BL[2139.282]
;W[hf]WL[2290.485]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: did Zen won the KGS bot tournament few days ago?
gghideki [?\]: 2009-08-21, with 7 stones and Zen lost.  See http://www.computer-go.info/h-c/index.html
]
;B[jf]BL[2102.777]
;W[ff]WL[2277.426]
;B[id]BL[2093.283]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: up to 2015 pro 9p could still 50-50 to Zen with 4 stones :-)
]
;W[eg]WL[2259.155]
;B[df]BL[2070.844]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: pro 9p = old japanese 9p players like Kobayashi Koiichi 
]
;W[fe]WL[2255.057]
;B[lc]BL[2056.723]
;W[qf]WL[2250.272]
;B[qc]BL[2019.1]
;W[ld]WL[2242.748]C[pookpooi [?\]: Oh, also congratulation Zen on being 10 dan on Fox Wolf server
]
;B[kc]BL[1992.63]
;W[je]WL[2237.338]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: 18 out of 20 against strongest human pros :D 
pookpooi [?\]: I think it's fourth account that did that, behind Ke Jie, FineArt, Li Long
]
;B[md]BL[1964.076]C[Isla [?\]: FineArt, Ke Jie and Lian Xiao
Kotonoha [2d\]: LianXiao ? < Li Long (?) 
]
;W[kf]WL[2222.474]C[Isla [?\]: Li Long = FineArt
Kotonoha [2d\]: oh yeah 
pookpooi [?\]: Li Long is AI, don't know if LianXiao is already 10 d on that
Kotonoha [2d\]: Li Long should be counted as FineArt too? :D
Isla [?\]: Lian Xiao once reached to 10d but demoted to 9d
]
;B[oe]BL[1927.096]C[pookpooi [?\]: I don't know if Li Long is another version of FineArt or different AI
Kotonoha [2d\]: also Tencent Bot :D 
]
;W[pj]WL[2212.167]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: more like fighting I heard :)
Isla [?\]: Li Long is an another account of FineArt. By their author
Kotonoha [2d\]: help who can teach me enter fox go with foreign version of client
pookpooi [?\]: Oh, also congratulation Zen on Gold medal of computer olympian!
]
;B[nl]BL[1888.655]
;W[pl]WL[2197.823]
;B[pi]BL[1855.415]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: this game feel like Zen should take white with no komi haha
]
;W[oi]WL[2164.469]
;B[ph]BL[1850.086]
;W[qj]WL[2159.534]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: i am confused why they disregard j14
]
;B[oh]BL[1844.792]C[Isla [?\]: the foreign version includes some proxy. You can try to use them
]
;W[ni]WL[2137.539]
;B[li]BL[1835.611]
;W[nh]WL[2132.942]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: w wanna bet on killing center it seems
]
;B[pf]BL[1830.361]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: not right top too big?
]
;W[mk]WL[2117.86]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: w try to threat center but Zen is doing thick 
Kotonoha [2d\]: then I am sure w is losing 
]
;B[lk]BL[1794.002]
;W[cd]WL[2108.119]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: but again I am not sure Zen finish settle the endgame bug yet? :D
]
;B[dg]BL[1771.171]
;W[rh]WL[2103.22]C[pookpooi [?\]: There's debate on what's Zen trained on between Chinese/Japanse games or both
]
;B[nq]BL[1751.709]
;W[ml]WL[2090.209]
;B[mj]BL[1732.855]
;W[nj]WL[2071.213]
;B[mm]BL[1714.193]
;W[lm]WL[2065.48]
;B[ll]BL[1708.618]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: sound like letting human pro get white taking the huge komi is like alphago making kind of letting to Ke Jie in the last game :-) 
]
;W[nk]WL[2063.484]
;B[lo]BL[1703.72]
;W[lp]WL[2016.711]
;B[km]BL[1698.834]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: n4?
]
;W[lr]WL[1973.036]C[Kotonoha [2d\]: how much is Zen ahead now? qse 
qsefthuko [6d\]: ah, directly
]
;B[qq]BL[1679.506]
;W[mp]WL[1918.58]
;B[rp]BL[1660.044]
;W[ln]WL[1903.528]
;B[kn]BL[1655.277]
;W[mn]WL[1902.573]
;B[mo]BL[1650.518]
;W[nn]WL[1901.09]
;B[op]BL[1645.779]
;W[no]WL[1895.139]
;B[ro]BL[1627.245]
;W[er]WL[1893.521]
;B[dr]BL[1608.088]
;W[ds]WL[1891.034]
;B[eq]BL[1588.684]
;W[fr]WL[1887.002]
;B[fq]BL[1567.43]
;W[hc]WL[1818.316]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: does zen output its probability to win?
]
;B[ic]BL[1546.197]
;W[hb]WL[1812.222]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: i wonder what it is, the game looks really undecided to me
]
;B[jg]BL[1516.661]
;W[bd]WL[1799.51]
;B[an]BL[1484.493]
;W[ao]WL[1796.462]
;B[am]BL[1474.029]
;W[cm]WL[1782.03]
;B[cl]BL[1456.536]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: oooh
]
;W[bo]WL[1771.795]
;B[ie]BL[1427.415]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: don't get it
]
;W[mg]WL[1747.187]
;B[ri]BL[1397.081]
;W[qi]WL[1742.498]
;B[rg]BL[1387.277]
;W[qh]WL[1741.214]
;B[qg]BL[1373.06]
;W[bf]WL[1716.036]
;B[bg]BL[1343.829]
;W[bh]WL[1704.956]
;B[ch]BL[1330.105]
;W[ag]WL[1697.327]
;B[bi]BL[1317.22]
;W[ka]WL[1680.66]
;B[jb]BL[1296.863]
;W[ja]WL[1676.239]
;B[ia]BL[1286.884]
;W[ib]WL[1673.011]
;B[la]BL[1282.932]
;W[ha]WL[1671.738]
;B[kb]BL[1279.216]
;W[sg]WL[1669.854]
;B[sf]BL[1271.464]
;W[sh]WL[1669.029]
;B[rf]BL[1265.571]
;W[rm]WL[1667.129]
;B[gd]BL[1241.985]
;W[fb]WL[1664.113]
;B[mr]BL[1218.234]
;W[rq]WL[1660.496]
;B[rr]BL[1193.334]
;W[ls]WL[1657.235]
;B[gr]BL[1168.081]C[qsefthuko [6d\]: black should win by a komi
]
;W[cg]WL[1651.167]
;B[cn]BL[1148.464]
;W[pq]WL[1631.728]
;B[qr]BL[1136.113]C[pookpooi [?\]: congrats
qsefthuko [6d\]: nice game
gghideki [?\]: Thank you for playing again, Cho
])
