(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[9]KM[7.50]TM[1800]
GN[Match entre Catalin Taranu et Mogo, première ronde]PW[Mogo (computer)]PB[Catalin Taranu 5p]DT[2009-05-22]RO[1]PC[Espace des sciences, Rennes]C[MogoRennes [-\]: Les couleurs seront précisées lorsque le nigiri sera fait ; ensuite, à chaque ronde les couleurs alterneront.
TianShi [5d\]: Pourquoi vous avez choisi 9x9 ? C'est pas très intéressant...
TianShi [5d\]: La vidéo live commence
Mizuti [10k\]: parce que un ordi n'a aucune chance sur 19x19
MogoRennes [-\]: Mogo a fait de très bons résultats sur 19x19 il y a deux mois
MogoRennes [-\]: il est très tot pour faire mieux
MogoRennes [-\]: trop*
TianShi [5d\]: "Miser sur les atouts de l'homme", je ne sais pas si ça a du sens, puisque pour Mogo, aucun coup est plus étonnant que l'autre.
MogoRennes [-\]: Vous pouvez suivre la partie en vidéo sur http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
juj: yay
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;B[ee]C[juj: I would be very grateful if someone can translate from french to english
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;W[ge]C[Sponge7 [-\]: lol
hayko [15k\]: le micro de l'arbitre marche pas lol ?
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;B[fc]
;W[cf]C[TianShi [5d\]: If there are some interesting comments, then sure. For now, it was mainly presentation of Go, of INRIA and of the two players.
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;B[eg]
;W[cd]C[juj: did they talk about the machine specs?
cstoner [4k\]: INRIA ftw. ocaml rocks
Normann [3k\]: je passe à la télé ^^
TianShi [5d\]: I didn't hear anything about that
Kalyptuss [4k\]: ^^
Memor3x [3k\]: Quel niveau a noir ?
FractalG [10k?\]: je mise 10$ sur blanc
TianShi [5d\]: 5p
]
;B[gg]C[hayko [15k\]: ya on est diffusé
Thorvald [7k\]: noir 5P
]
;W[gc]C[Firzen [3d\]: lol why were they showing the KGs window in the video stream
]
;B[gb]C[k43r [2k\]: w no chances
mandelbrot [2k\]: if w lives, then b should lose
juj: yeah, seems very difficult for the computer to try to live on two sides
alter [2k\]: lol, mogo is very strong on 9x9
mandelbrot [2k\]: and I don't see how to kill it
Paradize [2k\]: il n'y a pas de parties prévu sur plus grand ?
juj: it definitely has to break through
MogoRennes [-\]: non Paradize
Cassis0 [5d\]: ce serait pas intéressant paradize
Paradize [2k\]: d accord
gogonuts [4d\]: 1st game?
hayko [15k\]: yes 1st
MogoRennes [-\]: yes gogonuts
gogonuts [4d\]: thx
k43r [2k\]: it will, but b is going to live in sente abbove and take c2\\c3 big point
rasl: F6?
Allelex: mogo has crashed :)
cbus [15k?\]: Kernel panic? ;)
debine [10k\]: need reeboot
Kalyptuss [4k\]: serieux
Mizuti [10k\]: dans le doute reboot
juj: huh, Catalin Taranu looks really young :o
TianShi [5d\]: He is really nice in person ~ 
gosta [3k\]: how many thousands prozessors?
hayko [15k\]: 34 years
Thorvald [7k\]: mogo c' est pas windows non plus, ça plantera pas
Speche [15k\]: pas assez ventilé
gogonuts [4d\]: yeah, what the hardware?
MogoRennes [-\]: I don't know, it's a 16 core computer, I don't know anything else
TianShi [5d\]: Mice brains in a amyotic liquid pool under the stage 
gogonuts [4d\]: good enough, thx
bolbi [-\]: what a big goban !
cbus [15k?\]: I wonder how much memory it uses for these calculations
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;W[fd]C[Mizuti [10k\]: Mogo has sight problems ^^
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;B[hc]C[cbus [15k?\]: Looks funny when he places those gigantic stones :D
hayko [15k\]: yes it's for direct match :)
Kalyptuss [4k\]: ko ^^
TianShi [5d\]: It really put into light how ridiculous 9x9 is compared to 19x19
Thorvald [7k\]: ça existe des goban à taille humaine, comme pour les échecs ? ou torp dur d' appréhender ?
Gnou [12k\]: no stress for catalin, Mogo played where expected
noyan1453 [1k\]: there is no ko threat for w, so it's not ko
juj: in the last 3-round match in 2008, Catalin Taranu won 2-1 against MoGo
nasnad [1d\]: bold statement
juj: it'll be interesting to see what happens today
gogonuts [4d\]: i like the b position
Jaro3000 [?\]: how much time they have for the game?
gogonuts [4d\]: e6 not so productive for w
TianShi [5d\]: Komi is a huge burden
harlej9 [2k?\]: is b 5p???
MogoRennes [-\]: they have 30 minutes sudden death
bolbi [-\]: i bet on black
Thorvald [7k\]: yes harlej9
bolbi [-\]: yes he is
harlej9 [2k?\]: thx
Ciovo [1d?\]: what is the time setting?
noyan1453 [1k\]: so how strong w is?
hayko [15k\]: oui le temps restant on a des info ?
cbus [15k?\]: cio, 30min absolute time
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;W[ed]C[Ciovo [1d?\]: thx
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;B[gd]C[noyan1453 [1k\]: h6 
gogonuts [4d\]: i expect w h6 now
Memor3x [3k\]: A ko on a 9x9 O_o
gentil [-\]: cassis, viens voir la soluc
FractalG [10k?\]: difficult to ignore
bolbi [-\]: gentil : utilise la causette
coldnight [2k\]: how much time is left for them?
Ciovo [1d?\]: why is a guy sitting up there? is he the referee?
MogoRennes [-\]: I can't see the clock from here
Mizuti [10k\]: on pase sur le grand ércan
mandelbrot [2k\]: my fuego says 53% for w
nuni: options rules ...
MogoRennes [-\]: yes Ciovo, he's the referee, Simon Billouet
Normann [3k\]: where is Catalin Tarnu from ?
Thorvald [7k\]: Romania
Ciovo [1d?\]: thx
Normann [3k\]: Ok thanks
Thorvald [7k\]: Normann, inculte
Normann [3k\]: oui
DummAuthor [-\]: does mogo use an opening book?
noyan1453 [1k\]: w is 5pro too?
nuni: Normann 3k should know 5p player from europe
Firzen [3d\]: is catalin taranu always black or are they playing tagaisen or smth?
juj: DummAuthor: I don't think so
cbus [15k?\]: White is a computer program
Thorvald [7k\]: w is a bot
mandelbrot [2k\]: w is a computer
DummAuthor [-\]: white is a computer program
gogonuts [4d\]: 53% is coin toss territory
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;W[fe]C[noyan1453 [1k\]: ah ok
gogonuts [4d\]: oh
MogoRennes [-\]: they will both take black and white twice
TianShi [5d\]: Surprising move
gogonuts [4d\]: no h6???
cbus [15k?\]: Any breaks between the games? :)
DummAuthor [-\]: gogonuts count ko threads ;-)
coldnight [2k\]: how much time is left?
Swell [1k\]: =)
AutoAtari [3k\]: haha
isbhal [-\]: Salut :)
JulienCo [9k\]: does mogo continue to compute during opponent's turn?
gogonuts [4d\]: i count the threats zero to zero
ManMachine [5k\]: Hi mom!
Swell [1k\]: Catalin will win for sure
isbhal [-\]: c'est la premiere ronde hein ?
MogoRennes [-\]: cbus, the the schedule in my profile
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;B[he]C[rasl: 3C
cbus [15k?\]: Thanks
noyan1453 [1k\]: e7 
isbhal [-\]: il la joue ou cette partie ?
bigbubbles [15k\]: e4
Mizuti [10k\]: SALUUUUUUUUUUUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEESSSS
rasl: not 3c?
DummAuthor [-\]: it's interesting in this game how thickness balance switched. first, white was weak and now it is connected in the centre
cstoner [4k\]: c2 e7 miai?
MogoRennes [-\]: c'est à Rennes
mandelbrot [2k\]: 64%
hayko [15k\]: he don't play the ko in 9*9 the computer
isbhal [-\]: ok il est devan tl'ordi catalin ?
bolbi [-\]: Mizuti  ne crie pas ne flood pas s'il te plaît
Cassis0 [5d\]: this is good for b
DummAuthor [-\]: mandelbrot, 64% for white?
mandelbrot [2k\]: yes
isbhal [-\]: ne crie pas de flood :) lol
nuni: c2 d8 
nuni: ARE miai
MogoRennes [-\]: l'ordinateur est juste a coté
gogonuts [4d\]: h5 not good enough for b?
gogonuts [4d\]: interesting
isbhal [-\]: ok P
DummAuthor [-\]: d8 or e8... 
ZenAuthor [-\]: zen likes d2 for white
gogonuts [4d\]: counterintuitive
mandelbrot [2k\]: fuego likes d3
gogonuts [4d\]: the bots advantage is that its got no intuition to go wrong :-)
juj: how about wE4?
harlej9 [2k?\]: who is Mogo?
cstoner [4k\]: e4 seems too small
DummAuthor [-\]: intuition of RNG
Voron [2k\]: bot
isbhal [-\]: computer
AutoAtari [3k\]: those stones look so big
harlej9 [2k?\]: thx
uurtamo [10k?\]: d2 looks good.
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;W[gf]C[DummAuthor [-\]: focring move =)
AutoAtari [3k\]: hi mom!
gcl: good shape
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;B[hf]C[DummAuthor [-\]: what we expect
DummAuthor [-\]: yes, very "good"
T3 [4d\]: can mogo resign?
TianShi [5d\]: That looks like Damezumari to me
Normann [3k\]: great the kgs screen
bolbi [-\]: yes
DummAuthor [-\]: percentage?
Normann [3k\]: on the video
jer [5d\]: l'homme a encore de belles années
k43r [2k\]: say hi to tv
gcl: w drunk?
PaCon [4k\]: G14 aji keshi?
noyan1453 [1k\]: haha
Shinichi56 [-\]: on essaye de faire marrer Mogorennes en direct? 
hayko [15k\]: il y a pas de commentaires ?
hayko [15k\]: en direct ?
DummAuthor [-\]: isnt this a demonstration game - it should be possible to moderate this
Shinichi56 [-\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
mandelbrot [2k\]: now only 57%, g4 clearly sucked
harlej9 [2k?\]: w d3?
Elvish [3k\]: sorry for my stupid question : but what is the komi value ?
masterfox [25k\]: salut
Shinichi56 [-\]: voila le lien pour le direct
MogoRennes [-\]: merci shini
hayko [15k\]: non je vois la video mais pas de son
TianShi [5d\]: 7.5
Shinichi56 [-\]: ;)
Elvish [3k\]: thx
TianShi [5d\]: Chinese ruleset
Thorvald [7k\]: ouai shini, un fou rire pour mogorennes
bolbi [-\]: french rules ?
hayko [15k\]: 7.5 chinese ruleset
bolbi [-\]: ok
Elvish [3k\]: i think it is large for 9x9
gcl: b actually lost to "this"?
isbhal [-\]: impossible de faire copier colelr sur le lien de shin si vs parlez tt le temps
MogoRennes [-\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
Shinichi56 [-\]: tu peux cliquer dessus aussi
uurtamo [10k?\]: elvish -- you can always check in "rules" under options.
bolbi [-\]: il siffit de cliquer dessus
bolbi [-\]: suffit
Normann [3k\]: avec firefox tu peux cliquer dessus
Shinichi56 [-\]: grillé ma poule
hakuoro [-\]: trop compliqué
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;W[dh]C[bolbi [-\]: même sans
Paradize [2k\]: est ce que Mogo apprend de ses parties ?
Thorvald [7k\]: faut être plus rapide sinon
Normann [3k\]: mdr
fidget [8k\]: e7 
Geraud [12k\]: paradize : oui
isbhal [-\]: bolbi ca marche pas avec mon truc
Pan1111 [8k\]: how strong are mogo and catalin ?
uurtamo [10k?\]: e7 is too slow.
bolbi [-\]: si tu utilise le client, ça marche
Pavel88 [3k\]: Elvish, the komi should be larger than on the 19x19, shouldn't it?
bolbi [-\]: en privé pour la suite
Normann [3k\]: catalin is 5p
gcl: is e7 enough? maybe
Shinichi56 [-\]: MogoRennes t'as pas envie de pisser?
Thorvald [7k\]: bah ish, clone la partie et copie tranquiellement
DummAuthor [-\]: isnt it too hard with that huge stones? :)
Normann [3k\]: mdrt
harlej9 [2k?\]: is this bot avalible to play on kgs?
Pan1111 [8k\]: wow 5p
mandelbrot [2k\]: mogo is top amateur level
Pan1111 [8k\]: ^^
cstoner [4k\]: harlej9, not with the current CPU setup it's using
uurtamo [10k?\]: this bot is running on hardware that isn't always available.
alter [2k\]: you can download mofo
rasl: zen9 is good too
alter [2k\]: mogo*
DummAuthor [-\]: cstoner, which hardware does it use?
Geraud [12k\]: harlej9 : this bot runs on a supercomputer. Can you pay ?
cstoner [4k\]: I dunno, heard something about a 16 core supercomputer
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: c7
alex01 [1k\]: d3?
harlej9 [2k?\]: ok:)
AutoAtari [3k\]: 16 core is not super
harlej9 [2k?\]: no more questions :)
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;B[dc]C[TianShi [5d\]: Depends on how super each core is
uurtamo [10k?\]: it's not the number of cores, autoatari.
uurtamo [10k?\]: it's what each one can do.
Elvish [3k\]: Pavel88 : don't know, heard about a series of game played by Go Seigen and other strong players in the 50's to set a value for komi on small boards, but I don't know if there is an "official" value for 9x9 and 13x13
hakuoro [-\]: franchement, ça fait flipper que blanc puisse gagner ^^
cbus [15k?\]: auto, It could be, can have insane cache-memory and the cpu architecture itself could be very exotic :)
kmr [1k\]: this games can be found in gobase
alter [2k\]: you can download mogo, and play on any computer (linux best for high performance)
Voron [2k\]: komi 7.5
uurtamo [10k?\]: elvish -- modern komi values on 9x9 are higher than you'd think.
MogoRennes [-\]: it was a better computer last year at Paris, but mogo's developper thinks it won't make any difference
Thoravatar [2d\]: go catalin!
hayko [15k\]: go humain power !
mandelbrot [2k\]: 44%, Catalin won this one
harlej9 [2k?\]: d7 is great
Shinichi56 [-\]: luuuu
DummAuthor [-\]: we are on tv:)
Normann [3k\]: hello tv !
cstoner [4k\]: Hi mom! (I wanted to see me on the webcast)
uurtamo [10k?\]: d6?  what a loss...
splaaatch [19k?\]: beep go mogo beep
cstoner [4k\]: blast!
DummAuthor [-\]: :-)
harlej9 [2k?\]: next move will be crucial
poirette [1d\]: last year in Paris, white won each time if I am correct (which suggests 7.5 komi is a lot)
AutoAtari [3k\]: I tried that and got kicked
uurtamo [10k?\]: or e7 first, i guess.
MogoRennes [-\]: you are correct poirette
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;W[dd]
;B[cc]C[Kalyptuss [4k\]: les coup divain n'aitrons de l'ordinateur !?
Allelex: 1%
alter [2k\]: ?
Normann [3k\]: carrément
Dricou [23k?\]: pitetre ^^
harlej9 [2k?\]: I like b
rasl: B+
Kalyptuss [4k\]: mais le chemins est long 
Shinichi56 [-\]: white has komi
isbhal [-\]: lol
Angelus [2d\]: komi is very big
Memor3x [3k\]: Les coup d'yvain peut-être...
hayko [15k\]: il calcule le temps restant aussi le pc ? il va pas tomber a cours de temps ?
Normann [3k\]: komi is big
uurtamo [10k?\]: komi is likely correct.
k43r [2k\]: 7,5!!!
MogoRennes [-\]: le pc sait qu'il a 30 minutes
Shinichi56 [-\]: normal in french rules
Gnou [12k\]: 7.5 komi, chinese rules. for me, black is +10 ahead...
ZenAuthor [-\]: zen says white 33%
TianShi [5d\]: I think black wins this one by 2 pts
Pavel88 [3k\]: 7.5 is a a correct komi, I think
Allelex: B 28 points
Thorvald [7k\]: faudrait arriver à voir sur quel os tourne mogo
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;W[hg]C[nasnad [1d\]: 7.5 is normal, chinese rules
alter [2k\]: linux
poirette [1d\]: 5.5, 6.5 and 7.5 are generally used on 9x9
Sponge7 [-\]: lol
Elvish [3k\]: ???
TianShi [5d\]: okay, black wins for sure now :D
Sponge7 [-\]: h3 ftw
anapazapa [2d\]: easy
ZenAuthor [-\]: d6 was bad
DummAuthor [-\]: oops
uurtamo [10k?\]: crazy move.
Shinichi56 [-\]: g2
EricM [2d\]: lol il déconne
Geraud [12k\]: l'année dernière c'était sur huygens
vdust [2k\]: mogo est en retard
kuikentje [1k\]: mogo starts to mess around
Normann [3k\]: ça y est mogo fait n'importe quoi 
Geraud [12k\]: http://www.itjungle.com/tlb/tlb071508-story02.html
kuikentje [1k\]: he is behind
kuikentje [1k\]: ^_^
vdust [2k\]: c'est pour ça qu'il joue des coups un peu abbérants
TianShi [5d\]: When Mogo knows he is losing, it starts playing dumb moves
Kalyptuss [4k\]: nn mais serieux
hakuoro [-\]: trick
Gnou [12k\]: That's a good threat for bottom yose
Elvish [3k\]: F3 ?
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;B[fg]C[Elvish [3k\]: y
hayko [15k\]: bon 1-0 sur ce coup ?
Kalyptuss [4k\]: c klr
Pavel88 [3k\]: why not f2?
lose100 [1k\]: game. blouses
TianShi [5d\]: 1-0. Next please :D
Pavel88 [3k\]: for B
uurtamo [10k?\]: why f2?  it's a weaker shape.
EricM [2d\]: lol
narugo [1d\]: has there been earlier matches? results?
MogoRennes [-\]: first game narugo
Gnou [12k\]: 1sr match, narugo
Geraud [12k\]: no, first one
cstoner [4k\]: weaker than what, uurtamo
Geraud [12k\]: the others later on
Pavel88 [3k\]: uurtarno, but maybe it gives B more yose points?
Shinichi56 [-\]: ok
narugo [1d\]: ah ty
uurtamo [10k?\]: weaker than that 3 stone group at f3
AutoAtari [3k\]: w can jump
hayko [15k\]: 14h : 1est : 15h : 2nd 16h30 ; 3rth 17h30 : last game
Jadeite [?\]: looks good for B :)
Thorvald [7k\]: j'aimerais que Catalin gagne, mais d' un autre coté les potentiels d' applications sont phénoménaux pour la science
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;W[hh]C[Geraud [12k\]: all info there (in french, but google is your friend)
Geraud [12k\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/jsp/fiche_pagelibre.jsp?STNAV=STRU04&RUBNAV=&CODE=52957396&LANGUE=0&RH=ACCUEIL
MogoRennes [-\]: live video on http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
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;B[gh]C[cstoner [4k\]: ahhh, i misread what you said.
harlej9 [2k?\]: b+ 0,5 :)
juj: white really has any chance with the H2 group?
Pavel88 [3k\]: d3
harlej9 [2k?\]: dont think so
AutoAtari [3k\]: semedori perhaps?
Mizuti [10k\]: it's yose threat
uurtamo [10k?\]: nope -- just makes d2 slightly stronger at the expense of points.  :)
ZenAuthor [-\]: 72% for black
alter [2k\]: 3 libs
Vogel [1k\]: wow nice placeto play
rasl: B+r
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;W[id]C[TianShi [5d\]: ...
mandelbrot [2k\]: mogo always overplays when behind, it should resign soon
Shinichi56 [-\]: ?
Allelex: pffff
Thoravatar [2d\]: haha
fran6 [2d\]: lol
Elvish [3k\]: is Mogo able to resign ?
]
;B[hd]C[anapazapa [2d\]: why?
bolbi [-\]: yes
juj: what's this :D
Mizuti [10k\]: wtf ?
Geraud [12k\]: lol
Thorvald [7k\]: tain on dirait du 25k
Vogel [1k\]: lol big stones!
Thoravatar [2d\]: mogo is looking for a place to resign :)
bolbi [-\]: Mizuti : language
MogoRennes [-\]: yes Elvish
TianShi [5d\]: Why didn't they put a big red emergency resign button ?
Allelex: cookie, anyone ?
Mizuti [10k\]: c de l abrégé ^^
bolbi [-\]: je m'en moque
Mizuti [10k\]: personne n a compris
uurtamo [10k?\]: be nice.  it's a computer program, after all.
Vogel [1k\]: tian lol
Shinichi56 [-\]: jpige pas la
Thoravatar [2d\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?LookingForAPlaceToResign
DummAuthor [-\]: hehe: "# Windows:  MoGo on windows (Unfortunately MoGo supports only 1 processor on windows, and is also 30% slower) "
blubb [1d\]: no reason whatsoever to be nice to a computer program
uurtamo [10k?\]: the program isn't reading the comments.
uurtamo [10k?\]: the author may be.
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;W[bc]
;B[bb]C[Geraud [12k\]: it's all explained in the website of inria. MoGo will continue to play when he is not sure of the status of a stone
Ciovo [1d?\]: nice game anyway
narugo [1d\]: is mogo still only about win? do it care score at all?
hayko [15k\]: ila pas les reponses automatiques ?
mandelbrot [2k\]: the author doesn't care, he knows that mogo is stronger than all observers here
hayko [15k\]: les truc a pas louper ?
blubb [1d\]: the authors (they are more than one) have dome awesome jobs already, even with the lacks that are still there
uurtamo [10k?\]: mandelbrot -- ;)
TotoroShan [3d\]: how many computers in mogo hree ?
Geraud [12k\]: lolm mandelbrot
Pento [3k\]: narugo: only win counts
DummAuthor [-\]: i think it's secret
Pento [3k\]: so there is still strange endgame
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;W[ec]
;B[eb]C[Geraud [12k\]: Pourquoi l'arbitre ne voit pas l'horloge
Geraud [12k\]: lol elle est du mauvais coté
MogoRennes [-\]: pour que Catalin puisse la voir
hayko [15k\]: a ce que je compris l'arbitre devait commenter
Geraud [12k\]: ah tiens y'a du son d'un coup sur la vidéo
Thorvald [7k\]: y a du son
blubb [1d\]: interesting question indeed, what processor power, how much RAM?
Victzz [7k\]: aah le son 
Victzz [7k\]: ^^
Geraud [12k\]: cool
Geraud [12k\]: on va entendre les "aaah" et les "oooh" du public
Geraud [12k\]: quoique
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;W[cb]C[Thorvald [7k\]: donc despierres en bois, plastique, béton
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;B[db]C[JC44 [14k\]: le son y était au début mais très très faible
AutoAtari [3k\]: the board is rotated 90 degrees on mogo's screen
Shinichi56 [-\]: il est bon au yose
Thorvald [7k\]: c' est  pas non plus du foot Geraud
Geraud [12k\]: ...
Geraud [12k\]: DNFTT
gentil [-\]: on peut dire que mogo est 9p dans le micro yose
noyan1453 [1k\]: combien de minute est-il resté?
MogoRennes [-\]: je ne vois pas l'horloge d'ici
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;W[ba]C[hayko [15k\]: ok
Shinichi56 [-\]: wo
gogonuts [4d\]: lol?
noyan1453 [1k\]: what?
gentil [-\]: ??
noyan1453 [1k\]: a8 
Kalyptuss [4k\]: B9 !!!
fran6 [2d\]: ?
Vogel [1k\]: lol
Thorvald [7k\]: GGVMUBDT
blubb [1d\]: D3
Normann [3k\]: the divin move is here
Asme [18k\]: ?
Prodigious [5d?\]: MoGo is 9p in yose, yes
Shinichi56 [-\]: a8
theshining [2d\]: a8
gentil [-\]: lol
TianShi [5d\]: I love the little dot under the "T" of Taranu, feels like it says "yeah, your alphabet just wasn't good enough for me" :>
Geraud [12k\]: that is a nice move
noyan1453 [1k\]: no it's not
gogonuts [4d\]: that must be a deep plan indeed
tanoshi [2d\]: what is this rubbish
gentil [-\]: 9p when not desperate
gentil [-\]:  else 9k
DummAuthor [-\]: omg
Prodigious [5d?\]: Fair enough
isbhal [-\]: mogo 9 p in yose ?
Vogel [1k\]: athour of mogo gets red ears
TianShi [5d\]: I think Mogo is planning  for the next games, by dropping Catalin's guard
Voron [2k\]: =)
Geraud [12k\]: ha, le temps
Pavel88 [3k\]: TianShi :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Hellraiser [3k\]: salut
debine [10k\]: catalin need reeboot now
gogonuts [4d\]: 9p - its yose is worth 9 pence?
Pavel88 [3k\]: TianShi: great idea!
Geraud [12k\]: pas réussi à lire l'horloge
MogoRennes [-\]: live video on http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
AutoAtari [3k\]: TianShi, it's his correct name
]
;B[dg]C[Shinichi56 [-\]: ah ouais il rep pas
DummAuthor [-\]: black is going to crush completely
coldnight [2k\]: 9p end game is a leandery and holy thing and some times it is much harder then any thing else about the game 
Allelex: total system panic now :)
TianShi [5d\]: Reminds me Monty Python, "Stop it, stop it, that is just too silly."
Kalyptuss [4k\]: ^^
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;W[cg]C[tanoshi [2d\]: I always thought caralin was a girl
tanoshi [2d\]: lol
tanoshi [2d\]: oops...
Dricou [23k?\]: lol xd
noyan1453 [1k\]: like caroline:)
Shinichi56 [-\]: :)
tanoshi [2d\]: catalin* sorry
theshining [2d\]: catalin used only 5 minutes if i see it right
Thorvald [7k\]: stwh
Thoravatar [2d\]: maybe caralin is a girl, i don't know any caralin
]
;B[ab]C[anapazapa [2d\]: and sonteen years ago he had a girly face and long hair, i recall
anapazapa [2d\]: someteen
TianShi [5d\]: What is there to think so much about for a 5p ? It's a 9x9 for pete's sake :> It's only a brain teaser ;)
Geraud [12k\]: isn't E4 an important move for white?
tanoshi [2d\]: komi is .5?
DummAuthor [-\]: 7.5
TianShi [5d\]: 7.5
Pento [3k\]: 7.5
ziman [2k\]: w won
Geraud [12k\]: 7.5
Allelex: 7.5
Voron [2k\]: 7.5
Memor3x [3k\]: E2
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;W[hi]
;B[eh]C[cstoner [4k\]: wtf is h1?
Kalyptuss [4k\]: pk ya un komi en 9*9
gentil [-\]: oh
Thoravatar [2d\]: that's what some pro's though before and than mogo won a few games..
climbtrees [6k\]: h1 is a computer prayer
gentil [-\]:  white is preparing kothreats
gogonuts [4d\]: w done
AutoAtari [3k\]: seems that the video of the board is delayed
Thoravatar [2d\]: better take it a bit more seriously
grelon [11k\]: ses une partie importante?
AutoAtari [3k\]: at least 5 sec
noyan1453 [1k\]: maybe d5 is good but not e4 geraud
gogonuts [4d\]: resign time
Allelex: time is relative
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;W[ch]C[Pento [3k\]: kalyptus: because here having the first move is worth a lot
hayko [15k\]: regle chinoise kalyptuss, a la fin les pierre vivante sur le plateaux comptent comme des points aussi
Memor3x [3k\]: Where is the ko gentil?
Mizuti [10k\]: what about b6 ?
Geraud [12k\]: ah règle chinoise ok
Geraud [12k\]: noyan : thx
uurtamo [10k?\]: i wonder if w would c5 after d5
k43r [2k\]: mizuti: and what happens then in lower side?
JeanVidToi [7k\]: b6 ?
Mizuti [10k\]: whiteg1 blackf1 
Memor3x [3k\]: If tenuko W will F1
Memor3x [3k\]: tenuki
k43r [2k\]: after c5 w plays b6
Sakae [-\]: lol
Sakae [-\]: I'm on tv
k43r [2k\]: gains points, and ko for corner
k43r [2k\]: or wait, no ko
uurtamo [10k?\]: i mean b d5, w c5?
KuKu [4k\]: бу
alex01 [1k\]: d6 dont go
Thorvald [7k\]: stwh
kuikentje [1k\]: I don't see any ko in that corner
blubb [1d\]: I cannot see any ko
noyan1453 [1k\]: me neither
TianShi [5d\]: Nice shoes
alex01 [1k\]: because f1
HiwaKaoru [8k\]: it's kibbitz, they just say ko ko ko :-p
TianShi [5d\]: Right now, Catalin isn't trying to win, he is just trying to win by the best margin ~ 
Draxt [7k\]: B6 not good?
DummAuthor [-\]: true.
SpongeBob [4k\]: b6 possible, no?
AutoAtari [3k\]: I think he's trying to find a way not to lose
gogonuts [4d\]: my unschooled eye suggests b6 :-)
alter [2k\]: i count 30 for B, and less than 20 for W !
kuikentje [1k\]: Catalin should aim to win with half a point
Sakae [-\]: I think he's trying to find a way to lose
AutoAtari [3k\]: that's too easy
alter [2k\]: he does not want to humiliate the computer
uurtamo [10k?\]: b6 over d5?
DummAuthor [-\]: how to win by 0.5 points but no one sees that it was intended
juj: the bottom right white position is dead? what was wH1 anyways?
TianShi [5d\]: haha how cool would it be if he passed ? :p
DummAuthor [-\]: lol
uurtamo [10k?\]: oh, i suppose b5 better than d5
MogoRennes [-\]: live video on http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
k43r [2k\]: tianshi ^^
narugo [1d\]: better get some margin against uct bots
kuikentje [1k\]: b6, right?
Sakae [-\]: he gives the impression that he've lost
rasl: 6b
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;B[bd]C[alter [2k\]: maybe Catalin is waiting for mogo's move, and does not know its his turn to play
Sakae [-\]: lol
uurtamo [10k?\]: maybe not.
climbtrees [6k\]: he is trying to make Mogo nervous
kuikentje [1k\]: at most, I see white capturing e5 in sente
Mizuti [10k\]: mogo is running out of time
Thorvald [7k\]: pratique pour voir l' horloge:)
]
;W[gi]
;B[fi]C[Geraud [12k\]: beh
Geraud [12k\]: meh
Sakae [-\]: ye
noyan1453 [1k\]: w is all dead
]
;W[da]C[TianShi [5d\]: ...
Geraud [12k\]: ...
blubb [1d\]: ..
Pavel88 [3k\]: ..
gentil [-\]: ignore
tanoshi [2d\]: now that's just
Memor3x [3k\]: ...
HiwaKaoru [8k\]: 30kyu time.
Allelex: KILLLLL
SpongeBob [4k\]: KILL
noyan1453 [1k\]: b5 
fran6 [2d\]: gift
Shinichi56 [-\]: il a pas appuyé sur la pendule
nodan [3d\]: a7 
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;B[be]C[k43r [2k\]: rotfl?
tanoshi [2d\]: wow
Thorvald [7k\]: stwh
HiwaKaoru [8k\]: resign.
isbhal [-\]: mogo se fait défoncer nn ?
noyan1453 [1k\]: haha I told ya w is all dead:)
Normann [3k\]: STWH
Warlord [8k\]: whole board kill looming..
Jadeite [?\]: nice camera setup there :)
Vogel [1k\]: the  progrmmer will resign soon
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;W[ea]C[juj: ouch!
Hellraiser [3k\]: oui ishbal
Shinichi56 [-\]: :)
k43r [2k\]: w is going to be taken from board
Geraud [12k\]: Je pense que les deux chercheurs là ils devraient commencer à jouer à la place de mogo
Allelex: mogo asks for undo :)
tanoshi [2d\]: haha and sum dude was talking abuncha junk about how computers have gotten so strong
DragonXiao [14k\]: 81-0
hayko [15k\]: héhé atari
]
;B[ac]C[noyan1453 [1k\]: a7 
Thorvald [7k\]: +1 Geraut
kuikentje [1k\]: it must be a terrible job now, playing mogo's moves
k43r [2k\]: 81:7,5 xD
isbhal [-\]: MOGO RESIGN
tanoshi [2d\]: owned
uurtamo [10k?\]: tanoshi -- you should play against mogo at this level.  :)
isbhal [-\]: C4 ca va mourir :=
MogoRennes [-\]: mogo resigns
Mizuti [10k\]: what the score so far ?
hayko [15k\]: over
tanoshi [2d\]: I'd smoke mogo with moves like that
zoup [7k\]: fini
Kalyptuss [4k\]: ^^
Lax [5k?\]: the score is : mogo resigned
hayko [15k\]: 1-0 for human
harlej9 [2k?\]: is gonna kill it all :)
MogoRennes [-\]: mogo abandonne
TianShi [5d\]: That was funny
Shinichi56 [-\]: clap clap
Jadeite [?\]: well done Human :)
mandelbrot [2k\]: tanoshi, you would have no chance
juj: thanks for the MoGo team!
HiwaKaoru [8k\]: Mogo does that, knowing it needs a kill. . . can't blame him for trying :-p
juj: that was really interesting!
Pavel88 [3k\]: TianShi was right - MoGo is preparing to fight in the next rounds :)
michka [1d\]: cool, mogo still has some work
DummAuthor [-\]: what is this
theshining [2d\]: where do they broadcast this?
MogoRennes [-\]: next round in 10 minutes
Shinichi56 [-\]: marc jegou et simon :)
TianShi [5d\]: Next one will be the real deal
Thorvald [7k\]: et nous !
Jadeite [?\]: Thanks to MogoRennes for showing :)
DummAuthor [-\]: black to kill ;-)
Allelex: when is next game?
Pavel88 [3k\]: d1?
uurtamo [10k?\]: they're all the real deal.
isbhal [-\]: il abandonen tjr pas ,
isbhal [-\]: ?
AutoAtari [3k\]: bravo Cătălin!
TianShi [5d\]: Soon, 15h in 5-15 minutes
MogoRennes [-\]: si isbhal
Thorvald [7k\]: yeah un commentaire !
MogoRennes [-\]: c'est fini
Annunaki: 2009 Mogo Odyssey in space   mouhaaaa
isbhal [-\]: ah ok ^^
MogoRennes [-\]: commentaire en francais sur http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
Pavel88 [3k\]: d1 gives life?
isbhal [-\]: n'empeche que catalin avait interet a gagner lol
DummAuthor [-\]: e9 saying resign time
rasl: next game
Geraud [12k\]: Le présentateur a dit que Olivier Teytaud retransmettait la partie. C'est donc Lui MogoRennes ?
tanoshi [2d\]: pshh w/e
Vogel [1k\]: who is the guy analysing??
MogoRennes [-\]: non c'est pas lui :)
rasl: mogo should take black, maybe  it will be funny
TianShi [5d\]: Simon is saying that tengen is normal on 9x9 and will be useful for all fights (just translating)
Geraud [12k\]: ah ben oui
MogoRennes [-\]: mais Olivier est present, il joue les coups de mogo
anapazapa [2d\]: b 73.5 pts ahead
TianShi [5d\]: And now white has a problem, can't win with just living, not enough
juj: thanks TianShi
Geraud [12k\]: sinon tu aurais réagi à nos critiques... :)
Geraud [12k\]: ok
Sakae [-\]: :D
flutiste [-\]: Jean Baptiste tu es la ?
TianShi [5d\]: If black played nobi, white would get too many points, so hane was mandatory 
Sakae [-\]: mogo is doing almost worse than I'd do \\o/
noyan1453 [1k\]: white's time isn't over yet?
mandelbrot [2k\]: mogo lost, you'd lose, I see no difference
TianShi [5d\]: Simon thinks that H6 would be better
TianShi [5d\]: He asked Catalin
Sakae [-\]: who said I would lose :o :DD
TianShi [5d\]: hmm .. Looks like Catalin didn't get the question translated to him ?
TianShi [5d\]: Too bad ~ wanted to know the answer
mandelbrot [2k\]: against Catalin?
mandelbrot [2k\]: I say you'd lose
Sakae [-\]: .... serious kibitz is serious...
Geraud [12k\]: C3
MogoRennes [-\]: Catalin took a break
Memor3x [3k\]: W's time seems very long... Isn't it 30 min??
MogoRennes [-\]: he's not near the board at the moment
Geraud [12k\]: He didn't ask catalin, he said he should ask catalin
Sakae [-\]: white is like a kyu
MogoRennes [-\]: ok
Sakae [-\]: when he's dead, he starts to think
Annunaki: when is next game please?
Geraud [12k\]: 5 mlinutes
MogoRennes [-\]: soon
DummAuthor [-\]: look at the profile of MoGoRennes
Annunaki: thank you
narugo [1d\]: mogo can win next match poorly looking performance is just nature of its logic when it is loosing
mandelbrot [2k\]: I think w could beat me with 2 handi on 9x9
Lax [5k?\]: "H3 is starting to get desperate for Mogo"
DummAuthor [-\]: yes
mandelbrot [2k\]: no kyu can do it
Sakae [-\]: ? Oo
Sakae [-\]: they got an audiance?
Lax [5k?\]: 5 min till the next game
uggeh [11k\]: If B C5, White is totaly dead
Geraud [12k\]: C'est l'ordinateur sur lequel tourne mogo derrière ?
TianShi [5d\]: So, will we get to know if not playing H6 was the real losing move ?
gosta [3k\]: then b must have had very good opening
gogonuts [4d\]: get strong at - resigning
Geraud [12k\]: merci pour la question
TianShi [5d\]: He asked about the hardware
gogonuts [4d\]: w not playing h6 was incomprehensible
gosta [3k\]: because other moves of b were not so special
Thorvald [7k\]: 16 core
Geraud [12k\]: They use a 16 core
DummAuthor [-\]: it's very interesting that the top programs have the same illnesses as naive-implemented monte-carlo-programs :)
Geraud [12k\]: its a "good good machine"
Geraud [12k\]: not a supercomputer
Sakae [-\]: ...
Geraud [12k\]: ah
Sakae [-\]: even an amateur beats the super computers
mandelbrot [2k\]: it's a quite fast PC
mandelbrot [2k\]: on 9x9?
mandelbrot [2k\]: not really
Sakae [-\]: they did during the taiwanese 9x9 tournament
Sakae [-\]: this 6d beat the comp :|
Sakae [-\]: but... those 6d may be stronger than a pro, but W/E
TianShi [5d\]: The previous question was about whether Mogo had a global strategy or not
Lax [5k?\]: and the programmer said that it was a monte carlo
DummAuthor [-\]: ^^
Geraud [12k\]: super le commentaire
DummAuthor [-\]: i would like to know about the opening book
Geraud [12k\]: c'est qui ce type ?
DummAuthor [-\]: d'accord, geraud ^^
TianShi [5d\]: "Does mogo think all the time or he waits for his turn ?"
DummAuthor [-\]: the programmer
DummAuthor [-\]: "ce type"
TianShi [5d\]: "Yes he does"
TianShi [5d\]: (he thinks all the time)
TianShi [5d\]: Well, more like "it" :)
DummAuthor [-\]: dreams? :)
Lax [5k?\]: now another qustion : can a computer think ? :p
TianShi [5d\]: How many lines is the algorithm ? -.-
TianShi [5d\]: That's an important question :D
TianShi [5d\]: ~ 10k lines, 3k really useful
DummAuthor [-\]: 3000 ?
DummAuthor [-\]: lol
Sakae [-\]: O.O
lemzwerg [5k\]: today?
DummAuthor [-\]: what do you think, did he mean empty lines and commentary lines  = 7000 ?
lemzwerg [5k\]: a single call to `random()'
TianShi [5d\]: No, it's the things around, such as the heuristic to generate the random moves
DummAuthor [-\]: lemzwerg?
Geraud [12k\]: no, 10000 lines because they pwrote the program fast
Geraud [12k\]: eally usefull is 2000 lines
TianShi [5d\]: Around 18 000 sim / sec on each core
Lax [5k?\]: 18k simulations/s at the beginning of the game
DummAuthor [-\]: what is with the 7000 lines ?
Geraud [12k\]: they could be reduced, it's just optimization
TianShi [5d\]: Interesting answer
coldnight [2k\]: did the game finish alredy?
Lax [5k?\]: and he says it's useless to get more simulations
Geraud [12k\]: the core algorythm, the algorythm that made them able to beat humans on 99 is 2000 lines
DummAuthor [-\]: catalin won
coldnight [2k\]: thank you
TianShi [5d\]: There is a bias so it's not really useful to have that much more sim / secs
coldnight [2k\]: seems like it
TianShi [5d\]: Next game starting
TianShi [5d\]: In 5 min
Geraud [12k\]: Ah ok, le "type" c'est le président de la FFG
Lax [5k?\]: 5 min till next game (he said that 10 min earlier though)
Geraud [12k\]: Oui, moi je connais le jeu de go lol
Sakae [-\]: :D
Geraud [12k\]: C'est qui l'arbitre ?
TianShi [5d\]: C'est quoi le Go ? :D
TianShi [5d\]: Zazie
Geraud [12k\]: Zazie ?
DummAuthor [-\]: zazie?
Annunaki: neebies
Geraud [12k\]: Ok : MoGo won't learn from the first game
Lax [5k?\]: the computer doesn't learn from the previous game
DummAuthor [-\]: ah the commentator?
Geraud [12k\]: He can do it, but he won't today
TianShi [5d\]: What was there to learn anyway ? It played crap after 7 moves :p
Lax [5k?\]: hehe
DummAuthor [-\]: not plying crap.
Geraud [12k\]: It's the same program that won at H7 in korea
Geraud [12k\]: But not the same computer
Annunaki: Need more money more processors for mogo
narugo [1d\]: couple moves for fuseki library
DummAuthor [-\]: now, they will activate some secret features
cxyc: il a gagné sur 19 19?
gogonuts [4d\]: b can start aiming at total victory
DummAuthor [-\]: with big hndicap, yes
Geraud [12k\]: oui, H7 contre un 4P
Annunaki: Shall it works with a network of computers like they are using in SETI?
cxyc: impressionant...
gogonuts [4d\]: 81 - zilch should count double :-)
DummAuthor [-\]: improving cpu power doesnt make so much
TianShi [5d\]: hmm, maybe he should just give the formula, his metaphore is terrible
Geraud [12k\]: that's what they said
Lax [5k?\]: boy, this explanation is just too metaphysic
Geraud [12k\]: crappy
DummAuthor [-\]: what did he say?
TianShi [5d\]: He tried to explain what the bias was, but then epic failed
Geraud [12k\]: he compared montecarlo to measuring the area of a lake by launching bullets in it
DummAuthor [-\]: can you explain it?
DummAuthor [-\]: oh
Lax [5k?\]: something about finding the area of a pool by firing canonballs
TianShi [5d\]: The bias in there was that some canons are firing more to the right or more to the left to begin with
DummAuthor [-\]: resembles an idea to compute PI
gogonuts [4d\]: w knows he lost this one, hes just trying to wear the human out
TianShi [5d\]: he mentionned it, Buffon's methiod
Geraud [12k\]: exactly xhat he says
Sakae [-\]: :D
Lax [5k?\]: i just wonder how that can be used in go
Sakae [-\]: how slow are 5 mins in france=
Geraud [12k\]: lol
TianShi [5d\]: But the problem is that he didn't tell what was the bias in Mogo's case
DummAuthor [-\]: hehe
Annunaki: they speaking millitary research now
Geraud [12k\]: sakae : waiting for catalin, he is not french
Sakae [-\]: :D
Geraud [12k\]: INTERESTING : he gives away his code
Sakae [-\]: he got lost in the studio
DummAuthor [-\]: who does??
narugo [1d\]: computers should use fuseki library when playing against pro:s which have it in their head
Geraud [12k\]: mogo
DummAuthor [-\]: the program is downlaodable, not the code
DummAuthor [-\]: you confuse things
Lax [5k?\]: mogo ])
