(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[9]KM[7.50]TM[1800]
GN[Match entre Catalin Taranu et Mogo, troisième ronde]PW[Mogo (computer)]PB[Catalin Taranu 5p]DT[2009-05-22]PC[Espace des sciences, Rennes]
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;W[ff]
;B[df]
;W[fd]C[MogoRennes [-\]: sorry, my computer crashed
vdust [2k\]: :x
Kanin [-\]: who's who?
vdust [2k\]: Tant que ce n'est pas mogo qui crash, ça va xD
DanielTom [3d\]: who's Black?
vdust [2k\]: Catalin is black
kuikentje [1k\]: wow
Geraud [12k\]: Catalin Black
kuikentje [1k\]: next move o.o
Geraud [12k\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
DanielTom [3d\]: why don't you change the names? :)
kuikentje [1k\]: h5!
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;B[he]C[gogodil [2d?\]: Would it be possible to get a game comment by Catalin in English afterwards?
jer [5d\]: wow
devoreve [7k\]: fun.
TianShi [5d\]: Black is having fun now :D
vdust [2k\]: Catalin ne va rien laisser à mogo :D
DanielTom [3d\]: h5 CLASS
debine [10k\]: with his accent we understand all what he sais
Allelex: poor mogo
DanielTom [3d\]: what is the komi?
vdust [2k\]: 7.5
hayko [15k\]: 7.5
Novlaire [12k?\]: 7.5
Geraud [12k\]: 7.5
vdust [2k\]: lol
Geraud [12k\]: lol
DanielTom [3d\]: thanks ;)
sednem [16k\]: ^^
BattleCow [2d\]: i do not see catalin in player list
Novlaire [12k?\]: You _could have checked under "Rules"
Normann [3k\]: Happy Birthday Bolbiiiii Happy Birthday To Youuuu
Geraud [12k\]: Bonjour les gens dans la salle
Airi [2d\]: GO MOGO GOOOOO
mandelbrot [2k\]: I think they play on the board
Airi [2d\]: MOGO THE BEST
Kirasaki [-\]: Joyeux anniversaireeee bolbiiiiiiiii
benina [6k\]: Joyeeeeeeux anniversaire Bolbi !!!!!!
nIN3 [-\]: How strong is mogo on 9x9?
DanielTom [3d\]: oh, is it bolbi's birthday?
Airi [2d\]: pro
Geraud [12k\]: il est stressé Teytaud là, non ?
Nael: g7 for mogo
Geraud [12k\]: il se grattait pas les lunettes comme ça avant
Allelex: Airi, you wrote part of the code?
VVapiFlapi [6k\]: how does this work ? Catalin put his stones on a bord ? but who is playing mogo's stones ?
Airi [2d\]: lol
Airi [2d\]: no
ikuy [1d\]: h5 so noci move
Sakae [-\]: again?
ikuy [1d\]: *nice
Geraud [12k\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
Geraud [12k\]: vvapiflapi check out the video
Allelex: they play with frisbees
ikuy [1d\]: g6 for w
Cuda [4k\]: This game is just a relay. Demo.
Allelex: mogo has bad eyesight
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;W[eg]
;B[dg]C[sednem [16k\]: le lien bloque sur "acces a la video, chez moi" !
ibd [12k\]: huge stones oO
DanielTom [3d\]: <.<
guest2: they should build a robot arm to place the stones for MOGO
Geraud [12k\]: `why ?
guest2: much cooler
FrEaKaZoId [10k\]: omg i'm on tv
jocorbeau [3k\]: i agree
SmokeMan [13k\]: a human server is cheaper
Sakae [-\]: the programmer should ofc place the stones -.-
ibd [12k\]: look mom I'm on TV
mandelbrot [2k\]: w should resign here
jocorbeau [3k\]: the robot should have a scary face too
sednem [16k\]: and how will he know were the other player played??? (yes, signal treatment,i know ^^)
jocorbeau [3k\]: oh damn, i dropped 3k
CoupDivin [4k\]: bolbi a quel age aujourdh'ui ?
Shinichi56 [-\]: 96 ans
niark [2d\]: il fait plus vieux
devoreve [7k\]: arf'
Tenji [3k\]: How is this good for W?
Kirasaki [-\]: mdr
Meepy [-\]: he started at the 3-4?  risky choice
sednem [16k\]: c'est possible de voir les videos en rediffusion (youtube...), j'arrive pas à y acceder!
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;W[gc]
;B[gg]C[Eol [2k\]: who won the previous games?
narugo [1d\]: my bet for cataling gun, 2-0 already
Novlaire [12k?\]: Catalin
kuikentje [1k\]: Catalin is up 2 to 0
Eol [2k\]: ok thx
Geraud [12k\]: Catalin 2-0
devoreve [7k\]: jlu
jwr [5k\]: フォ〜！
DummAuthor [-\]: tough game for white, i feel
Airi [2d\]: OLOL
ZenAuthor [-\]: e2
Airi [2d\]: are there many people watching?
SmokeMan [13k\]: you feel, white didn't
Geraud [12k\]: ぜんぜんわかりません　jwr
ikuy [1d\]: w36 pbs
ikuy [1d\]: 236 obs
DummAuthor [-\]: how many people are sitting in the hall?
sayoki [2d\]: abit over 200 are watching
Geraud [12k\]: not much
MogoRennes [-\]: not enough :)
nIN3 [-\]: Which hall?
DummAuthor [-\]: between 1st and second game, the camera showed empty sits
TianShi [5d\]: C'est une onomatopée de surprise Geraud ;)
DummAuthor [-\]: seats*
sednem [16k\]: alors, elle sera rediffusé (youtube...) la video???
DummAuthor [-\]: i would love to watch that live
niumiu: time keeping?
VVapiFlapi [7k\]: la video est pas vraiment life .. enfin en tout cas y'as un bug quelque part ... ce qu'on dit ne passe pas tout de suiste :d
Mot [2k?\]: an articulated arm
Geraud [12k\]: ありがと
Airi [2d\]: WHY THEY PLAY SO SLOW
Tenji [3k\]: ありがとう you mean
DanielTom [3d\]: i like Black, of course :)
SmokeMan [13k\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
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;W[dh]C[vdust [2k\]: WapiFlapi: C'est normal, pour du broadcast
Geraud [12k\]: yes
badukgame [3d\]: фу так тут на 9 на 9
vdust [2k\]: Tu as toujours un délais
DummAuthor [-\]: please stop CAPS, airi
badukgame [3d\]: я то думал на 19 на 19
monk316 [2k\]: f2
DummAuthor [-\]: c2 is a must
Allelex: 'Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to play Go'
Airi [2d\]: top pro can read 9x9 board in 47 secs
DummAuthor [-\]: lol, allelex
ArtSax [2k\]: левизна
scortius [5k?\]: waa!! i see messages on video feed!
craig [4k\]: is there a top pro in this game?
scortius [5k?\]: hi mom!
DummAuthor [-\]: 5p
Kaneda75 [25k\]: catalin is 5p ?
DummAuthor [-\]: true.
scortius [5k?\]: ya
alter [2k\]: B overplayed ?
Deva [2k\]: no
Malanno [7k\]: b e2?
AmerBeton [9k\]: i wonder
Allelex: B seems fine
Kaneda75 [25k\]: the computer programm is known to be strong ? it's a new one ?
bloa [11k\]: whats the lowest handycap a comp needed to win against a pro player on 19x19?
ibd [12k\]: if you read this, wave at the camera
Tenji [3k\]: Seems ok
nasnad [1d\]: no overplay yet
niumiu: japanese pro?
BattleCow [2d\]: f2
nidza92 [-\]: i think w can/t win this game
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;B[fh]C[Geraud [12k\]: white didn't play yet
DummAuthor [-\]: oh
BattleCow [2d\]: w undo!
Geraud [12k\]: lol
Cuda [4k\]: :)
Airi [2d\]: lol
Kalyptuss [4k\]: ^^
TianShi [5d\]: Yeah, I know it hurts, but you have to wait for Mogo to play the obvious move ;)
DummAuthor [-\]: yes, it *could* tenuki
Allelex: haha
Airi [2d\]: w will probably escape
MogoRennes [-\]: :(
niumiu: didn't somebody say c2 is a much?
DummAuthor [-\]: dont worry rennes :)
niumiu: must
AmerBeton [9k\]: 30s ?
Lego [1k\]: W will escape >.<
kuikentje [1k\]: living in that corner is a must that's for sure
Airi [2d\]: w escaper
DummAuthor [-\]: can black live in sente perhaps?
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;W[eh]C[AmerBeton [9k\]: isn't mogo as strong to beat 5p on 19*19 with 9 handi ?
Allelex: Mooohh
Geraud [12k\]: mogorennes?
AmerBeton [9k\]: catalin played well till now
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;B[ch]C[monk316 [2k\]: does b need to add a move after e2? or is he good 
Geraud [12k\]: nic emove mogorennes
kuikentje [1k\]: mm
Allelex: yeah, surprising :)
DummAuthor [-\]: ah, good tactics
AmerBeton [9k\]: b2 ?
DummAuthor [-\]: pro sequence
alter [2k\]: g3 alive ?
DummAuthor [-\]: too early, amer beton
Allelex: well, Mogo build a nice wall :)
AmerBeton [9k\]: damnit i'd not know what to do now
tildebis [?\]: a nice useless wall :)
Larrave [4k\]: with komi as territory^^
gogonuts [4d\]: w e4 sente against the right side
Allelex: lol
gentil [-\]: before mogo was stronger
Fokatukc [5k\]: a wall between opponents territory
gentil [-\]:  i feel that his level regressed
ZenAuthor [-\]: g4 h4 d6 c6 c7
TianShi [5d\]: Getting old
Allelex: maybe he's depressed?
Tenji [3k\]: mogo i nervous
kuikentje [1k\]: the hardware isn't quite as impressive this time, gentil
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;W[de]C[DummAuthor [-\]: white e4, d5 - how to kill, gogo?
gentil [-\]: may be the last development introduced some regression
gentil [-\]: it was not regression tested
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;B[ce]C[gogonuts [4d\]: or catalin is warned this time
fhghgf: which is to be regretted :)
TianShi [5d\]: I think Catalin trained everyday for months :p
DummAuthor [-\]: c6?
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe e4 right away
Kaneda75 [25k\]: hello Rennes !
narugo [1d\]: yea trained against mogo
Normann [3k\]: coucou simon
kuikentje [1k\]: Catalin is a professional player
Sakae [-\]: TianShi
kuikentje [1k\]: I think he has trained every day for years :p
Sakae [-\]: ye and then he got pro
Sakae [-\]: after 3 months
Ghet: "TianShi [5d\]: I think Catalin trained everyday for months :p"       bet for years ^^
TianShi [5d\]: I meant 9x9 training ;) But yeah, that point is moot for a pro anyway
Tenji [3k\]: probably
nasnad [1d\]: e4 now?
Tenji [3k\]: pro's don't play 9x9 much, last I heard
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;W[cd]C[Airi [2d\]: nobody plays 9x9
Allelex: they dont have to
AndreasM [12k\]: the pro has b i think that matters, too or not?
TianShi [5d\]: Since training for 9x9 is mainly training reading, not much "fuseki research" to do
Jazzman [2d\]: thats tough
Larrave [4k\]: he trashed mogo with white
Tenji [3k\]: true
DummAuthor [-\]: now e5 ?
Tenji [3k\]: mostly tactical 
gogonuts [4d\]: w e5 wont help in killing b on the right
DummAuthor [-\]: no, black
gogonuts [4d\]: so b d6 i think
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;B[dd]C[rausku [-\]: arg why 9x9
DummAuthor [-\]: d6 e5 c4  ok
Larrave [4k\]: 3 rounds only or?
rausku [-\]: what is the point
Allelex: 1%
kuikentje [1k\]: why not rausku?
che [-\]: no chance for w
DummAuthor [-\]: this looks good for black because white's sente of e4 (as gogo said) is helpless here
MogoRennes [-\]: four rounds, see my profile for results and schedule
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont like ws last moves
Kaneda75 [25k\]: who develop mogo ?
gogonuts [4d\]: didnt make use of e4 sente
nasnad [1d\]: white will play e4 now maybe
DummAuthor [-\]: mogorennes, if 3:0, they will play 4th game anyways?
nasnad [1d\]: and then c4
MogoRennes [-\]: yes DummAuthor
Tenji [3k\]: Kaneda75: Money!
gentil [-\]: no c4, but b5
Larrave [4k\]: ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: w e4 b e5
narugo [1d\]: white e5 100%
DummAuthor [-\]: lol
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;W[ee]C[Larrave [4k\]: white resign 100%
Larrave [4k\]: XD
Malanno [7k\]: indeed
Speche [15k\]: c'est la combientiemme patire?
DummAuthor [-\]: 3rd
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;B[be]C[peninoule [8k\]: 3
vdust [2k\]: now b5 and balck win
Speche [15k\]: thx
Lego [1k\]: yeah b5, see to
Speche [15k\]: et le score?
DummAuthor [-\]: the position now looks even better for black. it seems like aji-keshi
DummAuthor [-\]: 2:0
HelloQtion [?\]: 2 - 0
rasl: 2h?
rausku [-\]: now w tries desperately to kill right corner ?
AmerBeton [9k\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
Tenji [3k\]: This is embarrassing to watch. I'm glad it's not a real person
gogonuts [4d\]: w b6 sente against bs right side group
Matsuyama [-\]: Catalin a gagné les 2 parties par abandon
Speche [15k\]: cool!
TianShi [5d\]: Unless Mogo found a sure way to kill right side group, this look very gloom
Aokame [2k\]: nah, tenji
Airi [2d\]: tenji mogo can give you handi
Aokame [2k\]: opponent is pro
Airi [2d\]: lolo
HYamashita [3k\]: Go Catalin!
DummAuthor [-\]: according to sente of e4, it seems that white b2 still psbl
Malanno [7k\]: b2
devoreve [7k\]: W E7?
Tenji [3k\]: how does that matter airi?
gogonuts [4d\]: b2 not enough
che [-\]: 9d playin
DummAuthor [-\]: gogonuts, did you count until the end?
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;W[bc]C[badukgame [3d\]: mogo not in shape today
bloa [11k\]: whats the lowest handycap a programm managed to win with against a pro?
oursamiel [7k\]: when i watch mogo playing, i feel as i can ensily beat it
gogonuts [4d\]: no :-)
DummAuthor [-\]: view offline :)
ibd [12k\]: 7
Cuda [4k\]: mogo is very strong at 9x9
DummAuthor [-\]: b7 is what?
AmerBeton [9k\]: omg
DummAuthor [-\]: same as j4 in last game?
FractalG [9k?\]: aji maker
ibd [12k\]: bloa, I think 7
kuikentje [1k\]: trust me, oursamiel, it would have crushed you in the last two games ;)
MogoRennes [-\]: mogo beat a professional at 6 stones two months ago
AmerBeton [9k\]: ahhaha on tv
Lego [1k\]: b8 ?
kuikentje [1k\]: (as it would me)
wesley [8k\]: comp?
wesley [8k\]: against pro
Aokame [2k\]: yes
gogonuts [4d\]: i think w will win this one, sadly
Airi [2d\]: lolo
DummAuthor [-\]: black c7 b6 b8 c4 b4 e4 c3 trouble for corner?
Tenji [3k\]: how?
gogonuts [4d\]: hard for b to avoid w e4 sente
DummAuthor [-\]: yes
rausku [-\]: tenji: magic
Tenji [3k\]: no such thing
craig [4k\]: mogo good at 9x9 but Zen better at 19x19?
Tenji [3k\]: only skill
DummAuthor [-\]: gogonots, if white e4, black tenuki, white kills corner with h2 or what?
nidza92 [-\]: b wont answer e4
gogonuts [4d\]: g4
nidza92 [-\]: just give up 2 stones
gogonuts [4d\]: then h2
gogonuts [4d\]: then g2
vdust [2k\]: craig : did Zen beat pro player in handi games on 19x19 ?
nidza92 [-\]: impossible to kill b
Ganj [7k\]: c8 h7
DummAuthor [-\]: g4 h4 h2 g2 h3 h1 j2 f1 ?
craig [4k\]: don't know
Tenji [3k\]: I've never heard of Zen, please enlighten me.
vdust [2k\]: well... mogo did.
enkel: mogo did, it's on gosensations
vdust [2k\]: several times.
rausku [-\]: just b8 or is there a better move ?
Airi [2d\]: CATALIIIIN
AmerBeton [9k\]: hello everybody in the room
gogonuts [4d\]: only if w allready has g4
DummAuthor [-\]: Tenji: look in room info of "Computer Go" (social)
craig [4k\]: Zen won computer Go olympiad this year
Tenji [3k\]: Thank you
gogonuts [4d\]: then after b h3 w connects at g2
qwertyb: c7?
DummAuthor [-\]: gogonuts can you join my clone game
gogonuts [4d\]: what room?
Nael: d8 playable for w ?
Aokame [2k\]: its b turn
luckyedge [9k\]: dumm in your line black has to play h3 twice
LevelNull [3d\]: how much time did they used now?
luckyedge [9k\]: then it works for white 
luckyedge [9k\]: he he
Tenji [3k\]: Wow, Zen seems good
MogoRennes [-\]: I can't see the clock
CsehAndrei [3k\]: f8
uurtamo [10k?\]: g5?
Aokame [2k\]: im for b b-8
AmerBeton [9k\]: is there komi ?
LevelNull [3d\]: 7,5
Tenji [3k\]: japanese rules?
luckyedge [9k\]: chinese
ricoh51 [?\]: always chinese rules with MCTS programs
Tenji [3k\]: but in game information it says japanese rules
MogoRennes [-\]: It's Chinese rules
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;B[cb]C[Tenji [3k\]: I see
AmerBeton [9k\]: nice
Kalyptuss [4k\]: j'ai beau chercdhé B7 est nul
Kalyptuss [4k\]: pk pas tout simplement atari en C7
rausku [-\]: can b tenuki after w b8 ?
Tenji [3k\]: The KGS game should also be set to chinese then, to avoid confusion
Shadowrun [7k\]: how much time have they used approximatively?
rausku [-\]: tenji: they don't care about that
AmerBeton [9k\]: white b2 ?
Tenji [3k\]: Rules are important, no?
AndreasM [12k\]: omg...
Aokame [2k\]: chinese rules are so bad. getting points for dame. so someone gets more points
Aokame [2k\]: so bad
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;W[bb]C[uurtamo [10k?\]: aokame, don't be silly.
Aokame [2k\]: one player has always more dame
Xylol [10k\]: it is kibitz time
che [-\]: atari?
joliejulie [-\]: loosing points when you play in your territory is seems normal to you ?
nasnad [1d\]: ?
Aokame [2k\]: than the other*
HYamashita [3k\]: can b kill w?
Xylol [10k\]: so use your moment and buy my new book, get strong at kibitz vol2
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;B[fb]C[Tenji [3k\]: I'm already 9d in kibitz
AmerBeton [9k\]: :)
Julian1 [2d\]: poor w
AmerBeton [9k\]: catalin so strong
Airi [2d\]: b kill all
Airi [2d\]: plz
Julian1 [2d\]: not mogo's best day
Aokame [2k\]: whats the point of gaining points through dame?
AmerBeton [9k\]: what's the hardware for mogo ?
darkboy [4k\]: vista
Xylol [10k\]: white lose win win lose black no chance should resign will win by time overplay tenuki?? why not c5 wrong, wtf? he won , should resign
Arkancrow [6k\]: 16core cpu
AmerBeton [9k\]: so mogo is dead
AmerBeton [9k\]: :)
MogoRennes [-\]: 16 core computer
joliejulie [-\]: bend 4 in the corner could be alive in japanese rules
joliejulie [-\]: that's a problem
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;W[bg]C[Lego [1k\]: dam death blue screan x)
Aokame [2k\]: yes, i agree
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;B[bh]C[AmerBeton [9k\]: is 16 core enough for vista and mogo ?
Julian1 [2d\]: how many time left?
Airi [2d\]: where can i get my own little mogo
joliejulie [-\]: by the way, european and american also play in chinese rules
MogoRennes [-\]: I can't see the clock :(
joliejulie [-\]: have you ever wonder why ?
Aokame [2k\]: but still, in chinese u can play to get more points than opponent  through dame filling
Julian1 [2d\]: aproximatevely? :P
Aokame [2k\]: no, european prefer japanese rules
uurtamo [10k?\]: aokame, just how many extra points do you think that you can garner that way?
Tenji [3k\]: in close games, rules are important
Aokame [2k\]: +2,+3
AmerBeton [9k\]: is there some korean rules ?
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;W[gb]C[joliejulie [-\]: no, they use chinese rules with japanese counting
Tenji [3k\]: korea uses japanese rules 
MogoRennes [-\]: I have no idea Julian
Aokame [2k\]: germany japanese ones too
Julian1 [2d\]: :) too bad
luckyedge [9k\]: is white alive anywhere?
vdust [2k\]: Mogo about 10 minutes left. Catalin, 15 minutes (if i read it well on the video)
DummAuthor [-\]: aokame, in some german tournaments, we use NZ rules
Ignatius [3k\]: lets invent kibitz rules for counting
AmerBeton [9k\]: j7 ?
kalim [5k?\]: I wonder if go programs would benefit from CUDA or openCL
Aokame [2k\]: i heard of zealand rules, but the majority is in japanes ones
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;B[eb]C[DummAuthor [-\]: yes
juj: currently the large amount of dynamic branching and incoherent memory accesses make it difficult to use GPUs for Go AIs
DummAuthor [-\]: perhaps they use NZ rules to get sum[5d\] into the tournament 
darkboy [4k\]: rooo
peach [-\]: Can white win in this game?
vdust [2k\]: It is quite easy to now black remaining time: it spends about 10% of the remaining time to think.
Allelex: sum is German, no?
vdust [2k\]: know*
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;W[hh]C[DummAuthor [-\]: sure
bloa [11k\]: joliejulie [-\]: no, they use chinese rules with japanese counting
LevelNull [3d\]: sum[4d\]
ZenAuthor [-\]: 60%
bloa [11k\]: whats the difference in the rules besides the counting?
Allelex: muhaha
DummAuthor [-\]: zenauthor, 60% for which color?
luckyedge [9k\]: here comes the attack
darkboy [4k\]: go for the kill :p
rausku [-\]: bloa, seki rules are a bit different
ZenAuthor [-\]: white 60%
gogonuts [4d\]: b h3
Julian1 [2d\]: if stone slippes from b's hands randomly on the board w can still win
uurtamo [10k?\]: bloa: handicap can be placed anywhere, among other things.
DummAuthor [-\]: interesting!
luckyedge [9k\]: zen white was 1005 last game
Lego [1k\]: h2 is hard move for black
luckyedge [9k\]: 100%
Aokame [2k\]: of course, consistent rules arent existent in the game of go. i agree, many problems, yet i dislike the idea behind chinese counting
luckyedge [9k\]: and he lost
Harleqin [2d\]: It just doesn't work, does it? Black F3 is sente.
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;B[hg]C[Allelex: W uses the wall nicely :)
nasnad [1d\]: so is whhite e4
DummAuthor [-\]: perhps just forcing move
DummAuthor [-\]: no killing intention
PaCon [4k\]: no wall at all
Lego [1k\]: whitte will kill b5
AmerBeton [9k\]: do a computer have intentions ?
gogonuts [4d\]: with the b sente at g5 i dont think w can do anything against the corner
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;W[gh]C[Allelex: look @ center of the board, PaCon
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;B[fg]C[Airi [2d\]: poor mogo :'(
DummAuthor [-\]: how to kill left corner?!
kitsune [2k\]: you can't
Aokame [2k\]: b in trouble
DummAuthor [-\]: Lego suggested it
Aokame [2k\]: e-4 is sente
gogonuts [4d\]: b fine
Aokame [2k\]: forget it
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;W[ef]C[ZenAuthor [-\]: 52%
Aokame [2k\]: should read first...
gogonuts [4d\]: c8 worked for b
Xylol [10k\]: what are you all talking about
Lego [1k\]: realy big problem for black now
DummAuthor [-\]: this game.
Xylol [10k\]: they are thinking like 15 or more moves ahead
Xylol [10k\]: everytime
Airi [2d\]: no problem
gogonuts [4d\]: b J2?
Xylol [10k\]: so pls stop this annoying kibitz
AmerBeton [9k\]: where a pb for b ?
Julian1 [2d\]: is e4 really sente?
gogonuts [4d\]: b seems fine to me
gogonuts [4d\]: not sente
Lego [1k\]: whitte kill h3 or d8 Oo
DummAuthor [-\]: j2 pretty big
Larrave [4k\]: e4 doesnt look sente
gogonuts [4d\]: thats whta the fight in the top left corner was about
Geraud [12k\]: Xylol : noone forces you to read
ibd [12k\]: f1?
bolbi [-\]: focus on the game please
Xylol [10k\]: geraus i would love to hear good comments
TianShi [5d\]: D5 feels like the losing move. Funny, in the first game, it was also the 14 move which "lost" it ... 
Xylol [10k\]: but too many of you are just simply spamming
Airi [2d\]: lolo
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;B[fi]C[Xylol [10k\]: it would be interesting to here what good players have to say about the game
Thorvald [7k\]: total kill ?
Lego [1k\]: hmm
Lego [1k\]: c4 now
DummAuthor [-\]: f1 > j2 because white has no more e1 sente?
AmerBeton [9k\]: why f1 ?
Lego [1k\]: or ..
Harleqin [2d\]: I am not a good player, but I think that White is dead.
vdust [2k\]: Xylol: It is the way of kibbitz. :)
kitsune [2k\]: c4 b4 c3 a3 
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;W[ba]C[AmerBeton [9k\]: white f1 makes no eye
Airi [2d\]: good players dont speak
craig [4k\]: maybe Xylol can read 10 kibitz lines ahead
Aokame [2k\]: i dont like the idea, that someday computers are strong at go like they are at chess
Airi [2d\]: even if we were silent
luckyedge [9k\]: hmm
Allelex: initiating auto reboot sequence in 9, 8, ..
DummAuthor [-\]: white lacks liberties in the corner
bolbi [-\]: focus on the game please
rayheart [5k\]: c3 c1 could ill black
tonyp [3d\]: B6?
Shinichi56 [-\]: et bim
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;B[bd]C[Geraud [12k\]: allez pas m'enerver bolbi le jour de son anniversaire
gogonuts [4d\]: and they wont just be really strong - they will play a really annoying nitpicking game
DummAuthor [-\]: i see nothing wrong with b6 c7 c9 d8 d9 e7 d8 e6 a7 1 liberty more
uurtamo [10k?\]: gogonuts, but their fuseki will be fun to watch.
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;W[cc]C[DummAuthor [-\]: the game is decided, guys?
TianShi [5d\]: Yeah, they'll win by 0.5 every time and they'll always use more time on obvious moves :D
Eusebius [?\]: good strategy against montecarlo: have some positions where you _could_ fail by mistake ...
gentil [-\]: ko
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;B[ab]C[gogonuts [4d\]: ws goose is cooked
jocorbeau [2k\]: j'ai du mal a compter les libertées la
aron666 [5k\]: ce serait emberttant pour blanc il est pas encore vivant
Airi [2d\]: resign time
Airi [2d\]: mogo
DummAuthor [-\]: eusebius, i think a good strategy can be to create traps, in which it is just too sweet to play bad forcing moves
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so strong catalin
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;W[ca]
;B[db]C[Harleqin [2d\]: A8 is very alert
gogonuts [4d\]: yup
DummAuthor [-\]: 6:3 liberties :)
Lego [1k\]: black win at one lib no ?
DummAuthor [-\]: every 30kyu can count this
ZenAuthor [-\]: 40%
gogonuts [4d\]: hes not letting down on concentration
Lego [1k\]: 2 extern lib ~~
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;W[cf]C[luckyedge [9k\]: 4 to 5 
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;B[cg]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i wonder where the 40% come from
AmerBeton [9k\]: ??
Tenji [3k\]: I thougt 30kyu was extinct
DummAuthor [-\]: a6 sente, i see
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;W[bf]C[ZenAuthor [-\]: 32%
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
Xylol [10k\]: @Eusebius thats a nice idea ;D
gentil [-\]: mogo plays very strange in these games
tonyp [3d\]: a6 is largely irrlevent
Vogel [1k\]: this games mogo seems extremly dumb
DummAuthor [-\]: so, if a8 on a7 the shape let ko-possibilities ?
jocorbeau [2k\]: maybe i got one too many beers, but i cant count :p seems that black wins by instinct
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;B[ag]C[fab [-\]: 3-0 for Catalin ?
gogonuts [4d\]: mogo played strange because he never got into the lead
Geraud [12k\]: ok, according to precedent games, if mogo acts strangely, it's because he calculated he lost
AmerBeton [9k\]: 3-02
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;W[ad]C[Julian1 [2d\]: what are the stones in the video made of..?
tonyp [3d\]: b 6 liberties to 3
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;B[af]C[gogonuts [4d\]: its not that mogo lost because it played strange
gogonuts [4d\]: its the other way around
DummAuthor [-\]: gogo, but IF it is leading would begin to play lazy :)
Geraud [12k\]: yep
AmerBeton [9k\]: 2 against 5
scortius [5k?\]: prastic
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;W[ig]C[gogonuts [4d\]: not if its ahead by 0.5 :-)
devoreve [7k\]: bamboo?
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;B[hd]C[TotoroShan [3d\]: T3 ?
Geraud [12k\]: dummauthor, th'ats what tartrate said
devoreve [7k\]: or this
DummAuthor [-\]: what did tartrate say?
Jadeite [?\]: t3?
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;W[hc]C[Larrave [4k\]: whole white dead?;(
tonyp [3d\]: w is all dead
HYamashita [3k\]: looks MC programs can't understand right bottom b is perfect alive.
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
Geraud [12k\]: taht when mogo was leading, he was able to tenuki
LevelNull [3d\]: b+73,5
MogoRennes [-\]: not much time left for mogo
scortius [5k?\]: g5 
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;B[if]C[aron666 [5k\]: j9 
Tenji [3k\]: Hope will overcome all obstacles, including Mogo
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;W[ie]C[gentil [-\]: haha
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;B[id]C[vdust [2k\]: lol
devoreve [7k\]: j2
AmerBeton [9k\]: lol ?
devoreve [7k\]: o
DummAuthor [-\]: how many months ago, was the last match of taranu vs. comp?
nIN3 [-\]: xD
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;W[hf]C[darkboy [4k\]: timesuji  ? XD
sednem [16k\]: G4 wasn t besser for black, the last move???
gogonuts [4d\]: but hope cannot overcome the last 23% win percantage
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;B[gf]C[vdust [2k\]: relol
sednem [16k\]: ah, yet
bl [3k\]: tesuji
TianShi [5d\]: He used 10 secondes to find out J5, 16 * 10 * 19 000 simulations :p
Geraud [12k\]: like the smile on catalin's face
Vogel [1k\]: so humans still dominate lol
MogoRennes [-\]: over
vdust [2k\]: mogosuji
KissMyBat [7k\]: hehe
MogoRennes [-\]: white resigns
AmerBeton [9k\]: resign
HYamashita [3k\]: Catalin is smiling :-)
Geraud [12k\]: mogo resigns
MogoRennes [-\]: blanc abandonne
devoreve [7k\]: GG catalin!
gentil [-\]: disappointed
gogonuts [4d\]: done
DummAuthor [-\]: congratulations
AmerBeton [9k\]: 3-0
AmerBeton [9k\]: it's over
go1d [3d\]: aie
Geraud [12k\]: Nice Match
gogonuts [4d\]: no more game 4?
bl [3k\]: this is 30k bot?
DummAuthor [-\]: fourth game wil be played?
Larrave [4k\]: lol bl^^
LevelNull [3d\]: last time only 2-1
AmerBeton [9k\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
darkboy [4k\]: mogo was angry the last two moves
AmerBeton [9k\]: interview
juj: give one or two stones handicap to MoGo!
Larrave [4k\]: mogo crushes any kyuplayer*g*
gogonuts [4d\]: good that the human won - feels nice to be on the winnning team
GenVital [8k\]: =)
DummAuthor [-\]: :)
bl [3k\]: http://www.espace-sciences.org/video/direct_player/lecteurEspaceSciencesLiveK.html
Cuda [4k\]: heh
tuname [?\]: humans lost ... creating a good superior go programm
GenVital [8k\]: damn...
scortius [5k?\]: one day machines will own human
MogoRennes [-\]: there will be one last game
AmerBeton [9k\]: it waz dangerouch
toyoga [7k\]: dont think
scortius [5k?\]: machine will create human instead human creating machines
Lego [1k\]: prochaine manche dans 10 min
devoreve [7k\]: yep
toyoga [7k\]: ok
sednem [16k\]: la video est disponible en rediffusion???
MogoRennes [-\]: 10 minutes break before the last game
Geraud [12k\]: sednem : on sait pas
sednem [16k\]: ok, merci
DummAuthor [-\]: well, taranu should try for jigo
DummAuthor [-\]: or half point win
Larrave [4k\]: if there were any good bots at 19*19
scortius [5k?\]: wheres subtitles?
Larrave [4k\]: this could be interesting^^
sednem [16k\]: sinon, qqun a réussit à voir la video sous ubuntu???
Larrave [4k\]: but since this never will happen 
Larrave [4k\]: strong human players will win against bots in go
DummAuthor [-\]: you need Adobe player.
Larrave [4k\]: but cant use its clear advantage in this match
Larrave [4k\]: -but+bot
sednem [16k\]: thank you, i'll see
LevelNull [3d\]: 4th canceled now?
DummAuthor [-\]: no.
scortius [5k?\]: 10 min
AmerBeton [9k\]: nope
Geraud [12k\]: no
DummAuthor [-\]: being played in 10 minutes
Geraud [12k\]: no comment ?
AmerBeton [9k\]: then a game on 19*19 ??
AmerBeton [9k\]: plz
DummAuthor [-\]: they look disppointed
gogodil [2d?\]: there was a comment :-)
scortius [5k?\]: you missed comment
gogodil [2d?\]: but his time there was not much to say
tuname [?\]: rather 8*8 
Larrave [4k\]: 2*2
Larrave [4k\]: ^^
AmerBeton [9k\]: lol
gogodil [2d?\]: the one before was really, really interesting
DummAuthor [-\]: i can only remind of professional vs. computer match where white got 8.5 komi so that the computer had the chance to win. did i miss something?
AmerBeton [9k\]: do mogo have some lectures ?
DummAuthor [-\]: mogo needs lectures, true.
AmerBeton [9k\]: how do they make it better ?
DummAuthor [-\]: :)
DummAuthor [-\]: more cpu
AmerBeton [9k\]: lol
Larrave [4k\]: ^^
DummAuthor [-\]: more parallelism
AmerBeton [9k\]: no i mean
AmerBeton [9k\]: the program
DummAuthor [-\]: it has no reinforcement learning algorithm
AmerBeton [9k\]: can't they make an antolearning machine wich plays against itself ?
DummAuthor [-\]: they can only make the algorithm faster by some tricks
Naso [2k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?MonteCarlo
DummAuthor [-\]: did you guys recognize, that black won 81:7.5 ?
DummAuthor [-\]: i just see it now ^^
LevelNull [3d\]: i wrote it
LevelNull [3d\]: b+73,5
DummAuthor [-\]: good :)
DummAuthor [-\]: you pay a lot more attention than me
AmerBeton [9k\]: i would be fun in the future to see cyborgs playing go
AmerBeton [9k\]: and explain things to 9p
Jadeite [?\]: not fun
AmerBeton [9k\]: why ?
Jadeite [?\]: because humans would loose to machine all the time.. would you play a game that you lost all the time?
AmerBeton [9k\]: yes
AmerBeton [9k\]: anyway if i play against a pro i will loose all the time
AmerBeton [9k\]: just make me better
AmerBeton [9k\]: because playing against stronger makes u better
DummAuthor [-\]: new game is up
AmerBeton [9k\]: i think it's a good opportunity for human people
Jadeite [?\]: if you learned what mistakes you made, you would get better :)
AmerBeton [9k\]: yes we can
AmerBeton [9k\]: :)
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