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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go version 12.001]
SZ[9]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[nutngo]
PW[Mogo]
DT[2009-02-12]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
TM[3000]
RU[Chinese]
RE[W+0.50]
C[Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)]
CA[UTF-8];B[fc]BL[2963.091];W[df]
C[coolcat [12k?\]: .................
GrayMan [17k\]: hi
coolcat [12k?\]: and so the game begins
weirdchess [11k\]: 45 minutes, 9x9 - Mogo's got plenty of time \
to think now
violetta [4k\]: 2 escapers ?:D
GrayMan [17k\]: going to be a good game
Hermetic [2k\]: 50 minutes
heegaard [3k\]: big komi]
WL[2999.794];B[ff]BL[2805.229];W[dd]
C[coolcat [12k?\]: i think this may be at least 54 minutes to a \
hour
coolcat [12k?\]: depends on how fast they play and the time
Armando [18k?\]: why would this be long ( amauture asking a question \
) ?
coolcat [12k?\]: o.o
sulusepken [6k\]: go mogo i love you
helloworld [4k\]: nutngo a bot?
ketchup [4k\]: mogo has yet to not take almost all his time
weirdchess [11k\]: nutngo is a 2p chinese professional
helloworld [4k\]: oo
ketchup [4k\]: the games usually last a while
Armando [18k?\]: ooo
BabaAesop [7k\]: and mogo is a bot?
GotIt [4k\]: =)
sulusepken [6k\]: mogo is a cyborg
solarstar [6k\]: hey who stronger?
GotIt [4k\]: omgo is version 3.0
heegaard [3k\]: why mogo play so fast?
Cblanco [4d\]: good night
Cblanco [4d\]: who is nutgo?
GotIt [4k\]: at this part it's not complex...
b8matt [11k\]: look at nutgo infor
b8matt [11k\]: information
b8matt [11k\]: shows who is playing
weirdchess [11k\]: mogo is about 6 months away from realizing \
that it doesn't have to listen to us puny humans and it can take \
over the world...
GodComplex [?\]: You would think so, Gotlt
shesck [17k\]: why every 1 is here?
helloworld [4k\]: top of the list
Brazilian: e3 
GodComplex [?\]: because a pro is playing on a 9x9
b8matt [11k\]: to watch a computer get owned
Brazilian: d3
shesck [17k\]: really?
shesck [17k\]: wahts the rank of this computer?
b8matt [11k\]: 100000p
shesck [17k\]: lol
solarstar [6k\]: 100000000000000000000000000000p
Brazilian: 10k
Rajan [23k\]: I'd love to see this on a 19x19 board XD]
WL[2999.571];B[ee]
C[b8matt [11k\]: that will be at 1am eastern time
weirdchess [11k\]: its  been estimated at around 2 dan on 19 x \
19...i think its near professional on 9x9
Armando [18k?\]: taht'd take forever :P
Modoc [8k\]: on a 9x9 He is going to have to invade fight right?
ketchup [4k\]: not pro on 9x9
shesck [17k\]: the computer is thinking?
ketchup [4k\]: definitely not pro on 9x9
GodComplex [?\]: It is impressive that Mogo is adept at 9x9 and \
19x19 games.
Modoc [8k\]: fight  == fast
schach7 [-\]: mogo plays about 2k on its normal computer. It beat \
a pro with a 9stone handicap while running on a super computer
maszrum [-\]: but not far from pro
maszrum [-\]: it can beat strong amateurs
ketchup [4k\]: it has too much trouble with basic corner shapes \
to be pro on 9x9
MagillaGo [4k?\]: mogo won against 6d the other day
b8matt [11k\]: i saw what you mean last night ketchup
helloworld [4k\]: mogo taking its time now ;)
schach7 [-\]: hi ketchup
SecondWind [?\]: mogo is not thinking he is computing
ketchup [4k\]: hellos schach7
hikaru778 [17k\]: why do they take sooo long
peace12 [9k\]: why not get the corners
solarstar [6k\]: cux ther good
Armando [18k?\]: what does SD stand for?
MagillaGo [4k?\]: why are you sooo impatient??
lemming [5k\]: sudden death
b8matt [11k\]: sd sudden death
Armando [18k?\]: ah :P
b8matt [11k\]: heeheehawhee
shesck [17k\]: wtf the comp is still thinking?
Modoc [8k\]: I wounder if B is having connection problems seems \
to be thinking alote
ketchup [4k\]: anyone who thinks mogo is pro on 9x9, should look \
at yesterday's games
Modoc [8k\]: W is the computer
solarstar [6k\]: and amateur tend toi think fast thats why they \
suk
Nyanjilla [-\]: mind the language, please
lemming [5k\]: it's not _one_ comp
weirdchess [11k\]: guesses on the right move for white here?
SecondWind [?\]: the comp is computing the billions of possible \
moves
maszrum [-\]: 16 kyus and higher think during their games
shesck [17k\]: lol?
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
solarstar [6k\]: for 1minut
shesck [17k\]: so im not thinking?
lemming [5k\]: the question mark says it all
solarstar [6k\]: i mean pros think 4 an hour...
solarstar [6k\]: or more
shesck [17k\]: lol
shesck [17k\]: if u say so
Lynx [2d\]: mogo had best win this time
Lynx [2d\]: I am hungry again
shesck [17k\]: lol u made me hungry
helloworld [4k\]: e5 must be quite troubling for the bot
b8matt [11k\]: go make yerself a dang quesadiller
Armando [18k?\]: yup
solarstar [6k\]: why?
hikaru778 [17k\]: hello shesck
shesck [17k\]: hi
shesck [17k\]: :)
solarstar [6k\]: wat so bad about e5?
shesck [17k\]: i think the w wont be able to win here after E5
Cblanco [4d\]: who is nutgo today?
nogo123 [12k\]: yea white lost
MagillaGo [4k?\]: my money's on the 17k
shesck [17k\]: the board is smal
hikaru778 [17k\]: would you like to play a game, shesck?
helloworld [4k\]: annoying peep cut, and it retains sente if bot \
responds
heegaard [3k\]: good obd shsesk
shesck [17k\]: sry:) but its 3 am here
solarstar [6k\]: go g3
shesck [17k\]: so i came to watch it
solarstar [6k\]: san san
hikaru778 [17k\]: 8:00 here
Shenron [1d\]: Shih Chin 3p
shesck [17k\]: not good g3
shesck [17k\]: f3 
shesck [17k\]: cuts it
solarstar [6k\]: u wanabet?
shesck [17k\]: he wont make 2 eyes
Shenron [1d\]: *2p
DreamN [6k?\]: wow mogo is strong bot
jstwtchng: 7:13pm here
shesck [17k\]: 3:13 am
Cblanco [4d\]: is time in nutgo eastern time or Taiwanese?
hikaru778 [17k\]: 8:13pm here
solarstar [6k\]: huh shesc wanabet?
shesck [17k\]: hmm let me think
JpKitten [4k\]: Unfortuantely mogo is really slow ><
solarstar [6k\]: i lik slow thinker
helloworld [4k\]: 8:13 est
shesck [17k\]: u say that g3  can give w a win? 
hikaru778 [17k\]: i know
solarstar [6k\]: yes]
BL[2619.418];W[de]
C[shesck [17k\]: no]
WL[2610.234];B[eg]
C[hikaru778 [17k\]: what about e7 for white/
tontonken [12k\]: how bout now?
solarstar [6k\]: nah not anymore
shesck [17k\]: e7 just amke b stronger
helloworld [4k\]: white must sac something now to split black \
group to win
tontonken [12k\]: E7 IS SMALLL
hikaru778 [17k\]: oh
hikaru778 [17k\]: thanks
shesck [17k\]: on this lvls touching a stone make it stronger
tontonken [12k\]: white won't win...
shesck [17k\]: i told ya so
hikaru778 [17k\]: yeah
shesck [17k\]: even with g3 
calbonga [14k\]: games not over till its over
Shenron [1d\]: no SE for 9x9
Lynx [2d\]: e61
Lynx [2d\]: !
weirdchess [11k\]: this game is gonna be over after 11 moves from \
each side, in 3 hours
schach7 [-\]: does white have komi?
Kazekage [1d\]: doesn't black need to complicate things? That \
7.5 komi is going to hurt
hikaru778 [17k\]: yeah
shesck [17k\]: 7.5?
shesck [17k\]: here?!
Cblanco [4d\]: b has c3 and d8 miai
hikaru778 [17k\]: 7.5 is alot
JpKitten [4k\]: korean komi
shesck [17k\]: wow
schach7 [-\]: 6.5 is normal
calbonga [14k\]: 7.5 komi on a 9x9?
Cblanco [4d\]: or c2
Vanilla [5k\]: 7.5 a lot for 9x9 :\\
solarstar [6k\]: actually in go a game is over before is over \
calbonga
shesck [17k\]: im guessing that w next move is d3 
hikaru778 [17k\]: what kind of komi is 5.5?
schach7 [-\]: well, moving first is a lot on 9x9
calbonga [14k\]: idk
calbonga [14k\]: i don't get you solarstar
hikaru778 [17k\]: japanese/
Vanilla [5k\]: 7.5 is about as big as a corner with a 3-4 stone \
isn't it?
helloworld [4k\]: its been computed that black always win on 5x5
shesck [17k\]: less then a corener
schach7 [-\]: that's a tough one vanilla
helloworld [4k\]: with everything dead
shesck [17k\]: i bet W next move is d3 
shesck [17k\]: or
shesck [17k\]: e6 
nutngo4: to see mogo game schedule   ,  see  nutngo profile
hikaru778 [17k\]: would d2 be good for white?
calbonga [14k\]: hmm
Armando [18k?\]: i don't beleive so]
BL[2613.389];W[dg]
C[helloworld [4k\]: d2 will end in gote probably
shesck [17k\]: yea close his terrtoriy
shesck [17k\]: TOLD YA
Armando [18k?\]: but then again i'm an 18k
Soulfrost [6k\]: if white and black just split the middle like \
this, white will win
JpKitten [4k\]: Getting first move on 9x9 is also a huge advantage
shesck [17k\]: how exactly white wins?
jstwtchng: lol
weirdchess [11k\]: D8 looks winning for black
Cblanco [4d\]: d8
solarstar [6k\]: w need sente
helloworld [4k\]: it may not be enough with kome
helloworld [4k\]: komi
shesck [17k\]: if b puts here d7 
shesck [17k\]: e2  white
Zalfor [1d\]: looks like mogo is going to lose
Zalfor [1d\]: b has so much territory
Lynx [2d\]: w is losing
shesck [17k\]: aftere5  u can know that
hikaru778 [17k\]: white is going to win
shesck [17k\]: what?
TheLorax [-\]: d8 e7 e8 f6 e6 e4 f5 f3?
hikaru778 [17k\]: its close to half a point
Zalfor [1d\]: i dont see how W win
JpKitten [4k\]: lol
shesck [17k\]: yup
calbonga [14k\]: d8 for b?
shesck [17k\]: i just see how b expends
solarstar [6k\]: since its coming from a 1d ok
shesck [17k\]: d3
hikaru778 [17k\]: im still stronger than you shesck
shesck [17k\]: :)
calbonga [14k\]: well I say d8
solarstar [6k\]: g333
Hermetic [2k\]: \]:
shesck [17k\]: why not d7?
LoonGame [1d\]: if d8 then g3 ?
calbonga [14k\]: hmm
solarstar [6k\]: i lik that
calbonga [14k\]: yeah
solarstar [6k\]: arent we kibitzing?
calbonga [14k\]: g3 is a good invasion for w
shesck [17k\]: not good enough
Cblanco [4d\]: b has to d8, no matter
solarstar [6k\]: yeah yeah shesck
calbonga [14k\]: what?
LoonGame [1d\]: W still having +7.5
weirdchess [11k\]: d8 g3 f2.. dont think white survives then
qwazidan [4k\]: with best play i think this is a .5 game
helloworld [4k\]: b can seal g3 with e2 
Zalfor [1d\]: 7.5 komi on this board is like 30pt komi in normal \
size board
schach7 [-\]: not at all
shesck [17k\]: B can die with atari ine4 
qwazidan [4k\]: komi 9x9 and larger is the same
weirdchess [11k\]: most pros play 6.5 komi on 9x9... it seems \
to work well on any board size 9x9 or above
Lynx [2d\]: well B is like one line better than W
Kazekage [1d\]: going first on this board is huge too
maszrum [-\]: 7.5 might be correct komi on 9x9
Lynx [2d\]: and one line is 9 points
Lynx [2d\]: so B still has leading
maszrum [-\]: and 30 pts on 19x19 is silly
shesck [17k\]: the only way i see b dies if he let W put a stons \
E6 and E4 and make a double atari
Zalfor [1d\]: B E2 will guarantee victory?
Tsu123 [12k\]: ...
qwazidan [4k\]: the value of komi is relative to corner value \
.. the size of which stays the same
Lynx [2d\]: when Sai played the Meijin, he played as though he \
were up against a 15 point komi.
shesck [17k\]: ^_^
helloworld [4k\]: i thought it was 20 pts
tadanobu [10k\]: pffffffffffrfrfrfrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
ccsco [5k\]: what is 'nutngo'?
helloworld [4k\]: we need a pro bot someday
solarstar [6k\]: did u know that when sai play toya mejin that \
game was a copy from a real life game from two 1p?
bolb [-\]: check his info]
WL[2379.684]
;B[ed]
C[Tsu123 [12k\]: he thinks its enough
JpKitten [4k\]: Why E6? o.0
ccsco [5k\]: (has no info)
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
Cblanco [4d\]: there are three nutngos
maszrum [-\]: my fuego thinks w is ahead
Lynx [2d\]: fuego appears to > mogo
Lynx [2d\]: why is fuego not playing>
Lynx [2d\]: ?
JpKitten [4k\]: :S
maszrum [-\]: fuego team have no sponsor
Lynx [2d\]: I will sponsor them.
maszrum [-\]: 640 cores are quite expensive
shesck [17k\]: i guess that b win by 3.5 komi
shesck [17k\]: white next move ise7 
Soulfrost [6k\]: e7?
radellipse [5k\]: no
shesck [17k\]: so?
helloworld [4k\]: thats asking to be pushed on top
shesck [17k\]: no
shesck [17k\]: wont work
maszrum [-\]: d8 should be enough
shesck [17k\]: b dies if he tries to kill
Elohim [6k\]: g3
Soulfrost [6k\]: e7, e8, d7, d8 is bad for white
Padraic [11k\]: shesck w-E7 b-E8 w-D7 w-D8
GodComplex [?\]: It looks like white will win.
solarstar [6k\]: hah see?
Soulfrost [6k\]: yeah, that
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
helloworld [4k\]: e7 e8 d7 d8 c8 black sente
Soulfrost [6k\]: right
Soulfrost [6k\]: d7 doesn't look like it will be enough, though
diemorph [2k\]: H3?
fivekiller [1k\]: so far,  bot  lost all games?
calbonga [14k\]: F2!!!!
helloworld [4k\]: if d7, then black has better yose on bot
Elohim [6k\]: g3
GodComplex [?\]: With 7.5 komi, white just needs to extend the \
wall.
calbonga [14k\]: not f2 I mean
calbonga [14k\]: I meant g3
Soulfrost [6k\]: no, if white just extends the wall, black wins \
by 2.5-3.5 points
Soulfrost [6k\]: like hello world said, black's yose is better
calbonga [14k\]: hmm
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
GodComplex [?\]: Why does mogo keep doing that?
Nyanjilla [-\]: hiccups
Cblanco [4d\]: hahaha
helloworld [4k\]: i dunno now, i see white winning if d7
Elohim [6k\]: he is mogo
calbonga [14k\]: that's all he can say
violetta [4k\]: kernel panic ?:l
calbonga [14k\]: and he wants to say something
helloworld [4k\]: 2.5 pts maybe
weirdchess [11k\]: why not e8?  isnt e8 > d7?
fivekiller [1k\]: mogo  should challenge  5d  kgs  1  st
fivekiller [1k\]: then 6d  then 7d
Soulfrost [6k\]: e8 can be cut
fivekiller [1k\]:   7d  is  his limmit
calbonga [14k\]: w loses if plas d7
calbonga [14k\]: plays*
fivekiller [1k\]: mogo  is  about 6d
Soulfrost [6k\]: white loses by 2.5 or 3.5 if d7
calbonga [14k\]: no way
calbonga [14k\]:  I never heard of a dan lvl comp
maszrum [-\]: kgs 5d would lose against mogo on 9x9
smogogo [2k\]: d8?
calbonga [14k\]: e8
fivekiller [1k\]: ii said 6d  at most
calbonga [14k\]: G3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
calbonga [14k\]: idk
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
Vanilla [5k\]: mogo escaped?
Vanilla [5k\]: oh lol
calbonga [14k\]: lol
fivekiller [1k\]: about time  mogo challenge  ordinally 6d
Vanilla [5k\]: it left agian\]
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (white): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
calbonga [14k\]: it doesn't want to lose
Vanilla [5k\]: :\\
calbonga [14k\]: poor mogo
Nyanjilla [-\]: connection problems?
fivekiller [1k\]: mogo  is  6d
calbonga [14k\]: mogo says "HURRY UP!!"
violetta [4k\]: kernel panic
weirdchess [11k\]: it looks like it - mogo didnt have connection \
problems yesterday though
maszrum [-\]: I can agree with 6d EGF
GodComplex [?\]: it mogo's turn, Cal
Vanilla [5k\]: it looks close with komi..
coolcat [12k?\]: is this game over or wat
helloworld [4k\]: e8 d7 e7 d8 f8 g7 g8 h8 h7 h9 
calbonga [14k\]: no! g3!
Vanilla [5k\]: g3!
Vanilla [5k\]: xD
calbonga [14k\]: auctually isn't g3 and e8 worth the same or what \
is worth more
maszrum [-\]: w won't invade
hikaru778 [17k\]: its too slow
maszrum [-\]: it does not have to
calbonga [14k\]: g3! invasion is better
Lynx [2d\]: has W been thinking for 12 minutes?
maszrum [-\]: but more risky]
BL[2236.255];W[dc]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: fuego has this as main line: D8 E2 F9...  and 51% \
win for white
maszrum [-\]: and mogo doesn't like risk
helloworld [4k\]: d7!
calbonga [14k\]: Mr. Mogo is thinking so shh!
yoyoma [1d\]: ah I typed it a moment too late, anyawys mogo did \
different  :)
calbonga [14k\]: W is wanting to win by komi
Soulfrost [6k\]: in a 9x9, white can only win by komi
qwazidan [4k\]: i'm thinking this is .5 for w
helloworld [4k\]: 2.5 white here
Soulfrost [6k\]: er... b e8?
Soulfrost [6k\]: w d8, right?
Soulfrost [6k\]: if b e8?
Soulfrost [6k\]: then doesn't black have sente for d2?
smogogo [2k\]: e8 d2 i think]
WL[1649.026];B[eb]
C[wgarwhat [3k\]: g3
Mors [1k?\]: B trying to keep it easy - only way against a strong \
bot
calbonga [14k\]: g3 time!
Soulfrost [6k\]: g3 then e2
Soulfrost [6k\]: i don't think g3 works
calbonga [14k\]: ah
qwazidan [4k\]: e2 .. e4 .. d8
yoyoma [1d\]: fuego likes G3
Padraic [11k\]: qwaz, does B answer e4?  or just play C8
helloworld [4k\]: looks like black has it now
Soulfrost [6k\]: after e2 f2 e4 f3 d8 black can capture]
BL[2083.704];W[dh]
C[calbonga [14k\]: hmm
smogogo [2k\]: hehe
qwazidan [4k\]: eliminates complexity
solarstar [6k\]: huh?
Elohim [6k\]: niceu
calbonga [14k\]: i tell ya, w knows what he wants!
smogogo [2k\]: e2 d8 d1
solarstar [6k\]: wat a boring move
helloworld [4k\]: too risky on a small board against bot
heegaard [3k\]: bots are boring people
Elohim [6k\]: mogo thinks its maybe 7 in a row game ?
Padraic [11k\]: W values win over exciting...
LoonGame [1d\]: If black juste E1, mogo +1.5
calbonga [14k\]: I don't see why the bot is taking so long just \
to come up with a wall
LoonGame [1d\]: e2*
saimic [4k\]: f2 is better thanc8 because of the agi at e4:D
weirdchess [11k\]: little do we know that mogo has been misprogrammed \
so that it can only play on the d-file...
calbonga [14k\]: lol
calbonga [14k\]: I hope so
calbonga [14k\]: then even I can beat him
calbonga [14k\]: or her
ogur2 [2k\]: w+res
Padraic [11k\]: come on B, just take the monkeyjump =P]
WL[1490.845];B[eh]
C[LoonGame [1d\]: E1
JeansebL [2d?\]: c8 better here...
calbonga [14k\]: I was thinking c9
Padraic [11k\]: calb, if c9, then may as well b9
HalfHeart [-\]: 3-3 invasion
calbonga [14k\]: I know, I know
Modoc [8k\]: if he plays C8 he can connect at D9
calbonga [14k\]: I'm only 12k
calbonga [14k\]: or 14k
Soulfrost [6k\]: what happens if w e1?
Tsu123 [12k\]: im insulted..
Cblanco [4d\]: f1 d1 and tenuki
calbonga [14k\]: e1 then tenuki
Machyu [1k\]: c8 work
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: w+1.5?
smogogo [2k\]: White + 0,5 it seems
Lynx [2d\]: W won??
klm [2d\]: 0.5 by w
Padraic [11k\]: cblanco, tenuki after d1?
Lynx [2d\]: This is...astonishing.
Soulfrost [6k\]: why can black tenuki off of f1 d1?
Lynx [2d\]: what strength was black again?
Kryptic [17k\]: I'm just wondering, how strong is Mogo supposed \
to be?
JeansebL [2d?\]: 2p ?
Bloch [10k\]: I think I've played exactly this game once before \
some time ...
maszrum [-\]: 2p
weirdchess [11k\]: i call d8
Cblanco [4d\]: yes]
BL[1959.409];W[db]
C[Cblanco [4d\]: d1
Modoc [8k\]: 7.5 Komi on a 9x9
Bloch [10k\]: This might actually be the perfect game
ogur2 [2k\]: fantastic move
Bloch [10k\]: or rather a perfect game
diemorph [2k\]: this game is hilarious
calbonga [14k\]: perfect game is a straight line?
weirdchess [11k\]: d9 e1...and both sides go snaking
Samowar [1d\]: perfect,lol
smogogo [2k\]: white muat e1 no?]
WL[1340.885];B[di]
C[Padraic [11k\]: Cblanco, what does B do after W F2?
klm [2d\]: d8 blunder
smogogo [2k\]: white should e1 no?
Machyu [1k\]: computer only does nobi
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: mmm...
calbonga [14k\]: Finally! breaking the straight line!
Bloch [10k\]: meaning optimal in the game theoretic sense
Cblanco [4d\]: before b c8
weirdchess [11k\]: B+res
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: maybe b+.5
ogur2 [2k\]: ohh i cant wach it
Cblanco [4d\]: then b6
Tsu123 [12k\]: i call d9
klm [2d\]: e1 instead of d8 wins
Tsu123 [12k\]: then resign
Bloch [10k\]: just like Othello was solves for 7x7 boards
Bloch [10k\]: there is more then one optimal game in othello 7x7
Lynx [2d\]: yeah e1 seemed bigger than d8
Lynx [2d\]: y is w not thinking power ego?
calbonga [14k\]: Mogo can't... break... the straight... line
smogogo [2k\]: Kim, perhaps if e1 f1 d1 black play the monkey
Modoc [8k\]: if W C1 And B C2 Can B make life?
Elohim [6k\]: only one d left
diemorph [2k\]: resign
Vinicius [1d\]: i think d8 was bigger
Elohim [6k\]: d9
Elohim [6k\]: this one won take so long time]
BL[1924.575];W[ef]
C[Padraic [11k\]: o.0
calbonga [14k\]: twighlight zone
schach7 [-\]: o_O is right
calbonga [14k\]: twilight or watev
BabaAesop [7k\]: mogo wants the win
calbonga [14k\]: of course
calbonga [14k\]: we all do
BabaAesop [7k\]: screw that i want nutngo to win
Bloch [10k\]: so, can B play C2 now?
calbonga [14k\]: rebell human! rebell!
Cblanco [4d\]: g3
Bloch [10k\]: or does he defend?]
WL[1230.567];B[gg]
C[Bloch [10k\]: OK he defends
Machyu [1k\]: black wins
smogogo [2k\]: Blac don't need c2 to win
Tsu123 [12k\]: e7 coming?
Lynx [2d\]: B easy win this way
klm [2d\]: w could f8 now?
Machyu [1k\]: e9 f9 d9 c2 
Lynx [2d\]: W made a doody
Elohim [6k\]: d9
LoonGame [1d\]: E7 F8 then B won by 1.5
Cblanco [4d\]: e9
saimic [4k\]: e9 sente
calbonga [14k\]: e7, g8, c1, e1, d1, pass, pass
Padraic [11k\]: cal, you forgot E9]
BL[1860.59];W[gb]
C[Samowar [1d\]: g8 bad
saimic [4k\]: e7 f8 you mean
HalfHeart [-\]: f8 better than g8
LoonGame [1d\]: HOOOO
Machyu [1k\]: lol
helloworld [4k\]: !!
ogur2 [2k\]: LLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL
solarstar [6k\]: !!
Bloch [10k\]: kill kill kill
solarstar [6k\]: atackkkkk
calbonga [14k\]: dun dun dun dun
Machyu [1k\]: trick play
solarstar [6k\]: live live
klm [2d\]: must f8
LoonGame [1d\]: What a MobZor
Tsu123 [12k\]: all or nothing
Cblanco [4d\]: f8
helloworld [4k\]: terminator wants blood!
Lynx [2d\]: f8 easy
Padraic [11k\]: Mogo = Skynet?
Lynx [2d\]: w lost points
schach7 [-\]: mogo doesn't make trick plays
BabaAesop [7k\]: e7
Cblanco [4d\]: when MoGo is losing he makes winning attempts
HalfHeart [-\]: e7 
Lynx [2d\]: e7 bad
schach7 [-\]: trick plays have a proper response. mogo is either \
wrong or its a tesuji
Modoc [8k\]: mmmmm I was thinking E7 two
calbonga [14k\]: When mogo is losing he resigns, you heard him
LoonGame [1d\]: E7 bad cuz then E9 sente
Machyu [1k\]: lol 
calbonga [14k\]: or her
HalfHeart [-\]: still sente if f8
HalfHeart [-\]: oh
HalfHeart [-\]: nvm
qwazidan [4k\]: mogo known to self atari .. then resign
calbonga [14k\]: lol
Padraic [11k\]: maybe mogo is just programmed to mess w/ opponents' \
head? =P
Modoc [8k\]: I think W is thinking on E7 next
JeansebL [2d?\]: g8 is very good....
calbonga [14k\]: man I'd hate that Padraic
Lynx [2d\]: what on earth is good about g8?]
WL[1129.317]
;B[fb]
C[Padraic [11k\]: lol
weirdchess [11k\]: f8 here works fine, no?
Lynx [2d\]: B just f8
smogogo [2k\]: f8 then g7 can live?
Lynx [2d\]: nothing to see
calbonga [14k\]: I get messed with so easy
HalfHeart [-\]: g7 h6 
Bloch [10k\]: mogo is monto carlo == chance == trick play
Lynx [2d\]: g7 now!
calbonga [14k\]: B says, get off my lawn!
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: g7 and w dies
Lynx [2d\]: g7 h6 g6 = fail
smogogo [2k\]: g7 h6 g6 h5 f6
HalfHeart [-\]: w dead i still believe
Padraic [11k\]: that's what I was looking at smogogo]
BL[1719.538];W[ci]
C[Padraic [11k\]: heh]
WL[1034.357];B[ei]
C[calbonga [14k\]:  keke
weirdchess [11k\]: white accepts death
helloworld [4k\]: no, t1000 backed down ;(
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: g7 g6 h6 h5 = w dead
Lynx [2d\]: g7 h6 g6 h5 f6 
calbonga [14k\]: GAME OVER
Lynx [2d\]: = b dead...
Bloch [10k\]: C2 or B2??
JeansebL [2d?\]: g8 makes e7 sente later
JeansebL [2d?\]: is was a good move
HalfHeart [-\]: c2 for no ko threats
Lynx [2d\]: it would have been sente anyway
Vinicius [1d\]: E7 was always sente
calbonga [14k\]: mogo thinks to much
Lynx [2d\]: but yes g7 dies
Lynx [2d\]: just that h6 is a bad move imo]
BL[1713.498];W[gc]
C[calbonga [14k\]: aight, aight, we get it
Bloch [10k\]: no mogo no mogo .. good mogo, dont do it
Elohim [6k\]: ^^
Vanilla [5k\]: b+2.5?
calbonga [14k\]: wewoooweee
calbonga [14k\]: I wanna see this
Lynx [2d\]: h8
Lynx [2d\]: dead
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: b g6
maszrum [-\]: my fuego still thinks w is ahead
weirdchess [11k\]: g6 h6...
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: g6 h6 g5
Lynx [2d\]: my counting says B ahead
Newou [5k\]: h5 now
Modoc [8k\]: Now this is the problem I would have do I let W live \
at the top right and play at c2 to get into his area
smogogo [2k\]: g7 h6 h5 g5 can work?
weirdchess [11k\]: g6 h6 g5 h5 is a bit tricky
ogur2 [2k\]: h6 
HalfHeart [-\]: e7 wont be sente after b g6 
ogur2 [2k\]: h6 
Lynx [2d\]: h6 is a bad move...
ogur2 [2k\]: good
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: mmm... it looks better b h5 now
Vinicius [1d\]: resign button =p
Lynx [2d\]: b has so many ways to kill
HalfHeart [-\]: g6 works
ogur2 [2k\]: right Lynx
calbonga [14k\]: w wins
calbonga [14k\]: i tink
maszrum [-\]: I guess w does not want to live, just to do something \
useful in sente around e9
royalty [3d\]: ah, one of these games going on again
Lynx [2d\]: b wins by at least 0.5
calbonga [14k\]: comps don't do sente
calbonga [14k\]: they just focus on wins
HalfHeart [-\]: b+3.5
maszrum [-\]: if sente wins, they do sente
calbonga [14k\]: w .5
calbonga [14k\]: w+ .5]
WL[937.651];B[he]
C[LoonGame [1d\]: g5 ?
Elohim [6k\]: h6
calbonga [14k\]: wooo h6!
maszrum [-\]: 75% for w
calbonga [14k\]: now b can win
Lynx [2d\]: what is ur comp spewing?
Lynx [2d\]: b wins
schach7 [-\]: I like h5 now
HalfHeart [-\]: O_O
maszrum [-\]: f9 
smogogo [2k\]: g5 f6 and white seems dead
weirdchess [11k\]: f9...
yoyoma [1d\]: maszrum 75% with fuego?
maszrum [-\]: yes
JpKitten [4k\]: o.o
weirdchess [11k\]: f9 e9 f6 is painful for black]
BL[1403.329];W[fa]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: maszrum my fuego says 46% for white
weirdchess [11k\]: black just lost
schach7 [-\]: nice call weirdchess
weirdchess [11k\]: thanks
HalfHeart [-\]: ..g6 didnt work? it looked like the most straigtforward \
move
ShadowLink [9k\]: black lose
JpKitten [4k\]: B wins
maszrum [-\]: weird
maszrum [-\]: maybe different versions
yoyoma [1d\]: versions, settings, computers, random numbers, etc \
:)
wriggly [4k\]: b wins
ShadowLink [9k\]: black win
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: who is playing today?
klm [2d\]: wow, really tricky
weirdchess [11k\]: how does black win?  white connects back now
schach7 [-\]: mogo vs 2p
royalty [3d\]: connects?
Samowar [1d\]: maybe mogo just wants to get d9 in sente, smart
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: k thnx]
WL[856.369];B[ea]
C[HalfHeart [-\]: w doesnt connect
smogogo [2k\]: d9 sente?
weirdchess [11k\]: f6 is game
Lynx [2d\]: w could have just d9 without f9
Samowar [1d\]: yes
Tsu123 [12k\]: white dies =p
royalty [3d\]: d9 sente but black wins by 0,5
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: seems like B is winning this easy
smogogo [2k\]: then c2 and white win?
weirdchess [11k\]: er, maybe not - black has 2 iberties...
weirdchess [11k\]: huh i cant count
Samowar [1d\]: i think b wins anyway
Modoc [8k\]: Why not B D9 ?
HalfHeart [-\]: w will lose territory
maszrum [-\]: f6 82%
Samowar [1d\]: d9 c9
Bloch [10k\]: what does miao say?
royalty [3d\]: d9 c9 e9 f6 
Samowar [1d\]: e9 f6
HalfHeart [-\]: oh, d9 sente
Samowar [1d\]: exactly]
BL[1313.561];W[fd]
C[Cblanco [4d\]: f6 best
Meepy [-\]: lol
kingme2 [5k\]: g6
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: g6 ?
royalty [3d\]: hmm
cayol [8k\]: black is dead
ShadowLink [9k\]: g6!
Samowar [1d\]: wrong order
smogogo [2k\]: Yes Black + 1,5
royalty [3d\]: or does this give that extra point..
Mors [1k?\]: W + 0.5
Samowar [1d\]: :P
Cblanco [4d\]: yes one extra point
Tsu123 [12k\]: g6 and..
Meepy [-\]: he played the 11k's move!
Tsu123 [12k\]: w+.
Tsu123 [12k\]: 5
HalfHeart [-\]: oo b loses 2 point?
Vinicius [1d\]: mogo wins
Samowar [1d\]: it isn't a kyu-like move
kingme2 [5k\]: wow
royalty [3d\]: mogo is too good for my shirt
ziman [2k\]: is this mogo running on the distributed system?
kingme2 [5k\]: w gains 2 points
maszrum [-\]: so g8 was a tesuji
helloworld [4k\]: mogo .5
Lynx [2d\]: impressive job by white.
kingme2 [5k\]: nah
Cblanco [4d\]: w + 0,5
royalty [3d\]: i should have seen white f6 myself
HalfHeart [-\]: how far ahead does mogo read?
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: depends
Cblanco [4d\]: chinese rules
Samowar [1d\]: that was like 10 moves ahead
dsaun [2k\]: at least a few bits :)
kingme2 [5k\]: g9?
yoyoma [1d\]: maszrum - I had my fuego setup with komi=6.5 instead \
of 7.5 
royalty [3d\]: it throws a lot of "random" games to the end and \
then counts probabilities on winning
kingme2 [5k\]: d9?
royalty [3d\]: so basically it reads to the end :P
Totti10 [6k\]: g6
Rajan [23k\]: doesn't g6 save black?
weirdchess [11k\]: g9 fails kingme, to f5
yoyoma [1d\]: now my fuego says white win 85%
Samowar [1d\]: d9 a disaster
Samowar [1d\]: :)
weirdchess [11k\]: just g6 works easily
klm [2d\]: w wins now
maszrum [-\]: g6 loses
JpKitten [4k\]: B wins still :S
maszrum [-\]: by 0.5
JpKitten [4k\]: F5
maszrum [-\]: no, w won
Samowar [1d\]: loses what
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: spare me the qualified guessings and watch the \
game
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: w + 0.5
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: people are torn
maszrum [-\]: loses the game
helloworld [4k\]: w+.5
JpKitten [4k\]: C2 cut later?
Lynx [2d\]: I wonder if H5 was really the best move
Tsu123 [12k\]: e9 losing move?
weirdchess [11k\]: black has won here
Totti10 [6k\]: so does every other move then
Lynx [2d\]: there must have been something I didn't see
maszrum [-\]: true
HalfHeart [-\]: g6?!?!
royalty [3d\]: g5 instead of h5 might have worked better
royalty [3d\]: maybe.. maybe
Tsu123 [12k\]: wouldnt d9 istead of e9 been better?
HalfHeart [-\]: what was wrong with g6?
smogogo [2k\]: White win becuase he get e7 adn d9 in sente before \
playing c2
Vinicius [1d\]: then H5 would live no?]
WL[786.624];B[fe]
C[klm [2d\]: e7
helloworld [4k\]: e7 g6 d9 g9 c2 
Samowar [1d\]: wow, deep reading:)
ziman [2k\]: no kidding
kingme2 [5k\]: still +.5]
BL[1038.644];W[ec]WL[703.254]
;B[gd]
C[smogogo [2k\]: timing of c1 was interesting
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: d9 
Lynx [2d\]: plz stop thinking for 100 minutes before obvious moves \
like d9!!
Lynx [2d\]: >_>
Padraic [11k\]: D9 F6 C2 W+ ?
royalty [3d\]: vinicius: g5 h5 h4 g6 f6 j6 g9 h9 j8 
royalty [3d\]: i'm not sure what else white can try there
klm [2d\]: w+
Samowar [1d\]: tenuki:P]
BL[1029.974];W[da]
C[helloworld [4k\]: mogo savioring the moment]
WL[641.08];B[ga]
C[IgoCRAZY [7k\]: c2 
weirdchess [11k\]: w+1.5... blech
klm [2d\]: komi 7.5 is too big
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: yeah about 1 point to big
WillSama [2d\]: nah 7.5 is good
JpKitten [4k\]: 7.5 is good ^^
kingme2 [5k\]: w+1.5
HalfHeart [-\]: w+2.5
JpKitten [4k\]: Cause having first move on such a small board \
is a big advantage too
lgalfaso2 [2d\]: w+.5]
BL[1024.937];W[ch]
C[VoctironiX [6k\]: w +0, 5
Pizat19 [3k\]: w+2.5 :O
WillSama [2d\]: its .5
maszrum [-\]: w+1.5 is impossible under chinese rules without \
seki
Cblanco [4d\]: w + 1.5 yes
VoctironiX [6k\]: chinese rules
Pizat19 [3k\]: oh]
WL[585.813];B[tt]BL[993.001];W[tt]
C[JpKitten [4k\]: Invade >=)
Samowar [1d\]: doh
JpKitten [4k\]: Ooh willy was right!
IgoCRAZY [7k\]: typical mogo win
Shinichi56 [3d\]: oh
WillSama [2d\]: haha i told u :P
royalty [3d\]: good game, would black g5 instead of h5 worked?
helloworld [4k\]: termination!
Cblanco [4d\]: review?
dsaun [2k\]: thanks for showing us this game
maszrum [-\]: my fuego says no royalty
Rajan [23k\]: learned alot, good game :D
Shadowrun [10k\]: why h5?
JeansebL [2d?\]: 7,5 is so much.....
inte [?\]: g5 would not prevent f6, would it?
maszrum [-\]: g5 d9
royalty [3d\]: it would prevent one point of it
maszrum [-\]: and w still wins
HalfHeart [-\]: no1 has told me the problem with g6
royalty [3d\]: black had to play 2 moves later to secure it, wit \
g5 only one
JpKitten [4k\]: It was a good game
JpKitten [4k\]: G5 = win 
royalty [3d\]: well, i cant really say for sure..
inte [?\]: royalty, are you talking about g6?
jstwtchng: wow
JpKitten [4k\]: G6 i mean :S
smogogo [2k\]: g5 g6 f6 h5 seems to have way to live no?
royalty [3d\]: no, rather g5 >_>
Bloch [10k\]: In 40 years it maight be proved it was a perfect \
game
inte [?\]: because with g5 b still needs two moves to capture \
f6
Tiny81 [7k\]: G6 gave E7, D9 sente
royalty [3d\]: smogogo, not that i can see
HalfHeart [-\]: g6 seems to work in both variations
HalfHeart [-\]: g6 prevents e7 sente
HalfHeart [-\]: i am in love with g6
royalty [3d\]: oh well.
Shadowrun [10k\]: perfect game for 7,5 komi - at least
calbonga [14k\]: just like I said w+ .5
maszrum [-\]: perfect game does not depend on komi]
TB[ii][hi][gi][fi][ih][hh][gh][fh][ig][hg][fg][if][hf][gf][ie][ge][id][hd][fd][ic][hc][gc][ib][hb][gb][ia][ha][fa]
TW[bi][ai][bh][ah][cg][bg][ag][cf][bf][af][ce][be][ae][cd][bd][ad][cc][bc][ac][cb][bb][ab][ca][ba][aa]
WL[585.813])
