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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go version 12.001]
SZ[19]
HA[7]
ST[0]
PB[Mogo]
PW[nutngo]
DT[2009-02-10]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[0.5]
TM[0]
RU[Chinese]
RE[B+Resign]
OT[10x40 byo-yomi]
C[Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (black): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)]
CA[UTF-8];B[dd]BL[40]OB[10];B[dj]BL[40]OB[10];B[dp]BL[40]OB[10];B[pd]BL[40]OB[10];B[pj]BL[40]OB[10];B[pp]BL[40]OB[10];B[jj]
C[Heretix [9k\]: nutngo is?]
BL[40]OB[10];W[nq]
C[MonkehKid [-\]: some 9p]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[qm]BL[40]OB[10];W[fq]WL[40]OW[10];B[gc]BL[40]OB[10];W[cn]
C[NeverAtari [3k?\]: says who?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[dm]BL[40]OB[10];W[dn]
C[inte [?\]: http://go.nutn.edu.tw/2009/English/schedule_eng.htm]
WL[40]OW[10];B[em]BL[40]OB[10];W[en]
C[inte [?\]: (it's 2 pm in Taiwan)
Heretix [9k\]: ah, thanks]
WL[40]OW[10];B[fm]BL[40]OB[10];W[fn]
C[nutn307: yes, we have four day play about GO]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[gm]BL[40]OB[10];W[nc]WL[40]OW[10];B[jc]
C[NeverAtari [3k?\]: i'm on a boat]
BL[40]OB[10];W[qf]WL[40]OW[10];B[qc]BL[40]OB[10];W[oe]
C[inte [?\]: is there any information on what kind of hardware mogo \
is running on this time?
yoyoma [1d\]: hm will mogo cut and fight now?
ketchup [4k\]: nutn307, is this jun xun zhou or someone else playing?
nutn307: yes]
WL[40]OW[10];B[cm]BL[40]OB[10];W[cd]
C[CBlue [?\]: R17 seems bad considering that there's no tight b \
pincer nearby
nutn307: nutngo is  jun xun zhou!
ketchup [4k\]: ok thank you :)
CBlue [?\]: should defiitely P15 instead]
WL[40]OW[10];B[cc]BL[40]OB[10];W[dc]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: pincer not close, but influence everywhere
yoyoma [1d\]: so maybe it's still ok to R17 and then fight?
MonkehKid [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?ZhouJunxun is white]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[ce]
C[CBlue [?\]: it looks as if ogo isn't "aware" of its handicap influence]
BL[40]OB[10];W[bd]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: I don't know much about the fighting after R17 and \
cut though]
WL[40]OW[10];B[be]BL[40]OB[10];W[bc]
C[maszrum [-\]: w probably already knows that he's going to win
yank [?\]: yoyoma, with H7, I bet on Chou 9p.]
WL[40]OW[10];B[cb]
C[CBlue [?\]: well i know some of it in variation where b pincered \
one w kakari tightly+low
CBlue [?\]: and it's already on the edge
CBlue [?\]: so playing this here should really not be easy
uoft123123 [13k?\]: can white live there?]
BL[40]OB[10];W[hc]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: yank I probably would bet money on white here too
yoyoma [1d\]: but I'm rooting for mogo  :)]
WL[40]OW[10];B[gd]BL[40]OB[10];W[rd]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: H17 is strange
ketchup [4k\]: refuse to root against humanity! :P]
WL[40]OW[10];B[bb]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: :)]
BL[40]OB[10];W[ic]WL[40]OW[10]
;B[jd]BL[40]OB[10];W[gb]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: good corner for mogo
yoyoma [1d\]: Is there some amazing squeeze on D16 coming?
NeverAtari [3k?\]: just aji?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[ie]BL[40]OB[10];W[fc]WL[40]OW[10];B[de]BL[40]OB[10];W[fd]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: J15 good too
CobyRobins [3k\]: this computer strong?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[fe]BL[40]OB[10];W[jb]
C[NeverAtari [3k?\]: yes
mmueller [4d?\]: W crying now
Heretix [9k\]: could have beaten tartrate on 9H :-)
Oloril [2k\]: stronger than the likes of you and I
ketchup [4k\]: heretrix lol]
WL[40]OW[10];B[kb]BL[40]OB[10];W[ib]
C[ketchup [4k\]: white has the best shape]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[lc]BL[40]OB[10];W[ge]WL[40]OW[10];B[hd]
C[rich [10k\]: Tartrate lost to Mogo]
BL[40]OB[10];W[eb]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: black played this part well]
WL[40]OW[10];B[lf]BL[40]OB[10];W[pb]
C[yank [?\]: MoGo is doing well on the left upper corner.
yoyoma [1d\]: dare I become more optimistic?  :)]
WL[40]OW[10];B[nn]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: But it's still very early  :)]
BL[40]OB[10];W[di]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: maybe u both were right
uoft123123 [13k?\]: white got cocky
uoft123123 [13k?\]: o..O
CBlue [?\]: what the heck is O6 :)
mmueller [4d?\]: Magic begins?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[ei]BL[40]OB[10];W[eh]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: mmueller who are you rooting for?  :)]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[ci]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: :O
uoft123123 [13k?\]: agreesive]
BL[40]OB[10];W[dh]
C[ketchup [4k\]: not at all, opens up e15 for reduction?
Oloril [2k\]: O6 is monte carlo at work]
WL[40]OW[10];B[gf]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: lol]
BL[40]OB[10];W[ej]WL[40]OW[10];B[fi]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: man .,. if white lives here..]
BL[40]OB[10];W[cj]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: if w doesnt live there its the end
uoft123123 [13k?\]: yah]
WL[40]OW[10];B[dk]BL[40]OB[10];W[bi]
C[yank [?\]: From the experience I played with MoGo, moves like \
G14 indicate MoGo thinks it is winning.
uoft123123 [13k?\]: k.. back to phonology homewrk... 'taku..
yoyoma [1d\]: B9?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[bj]BL[40]OB[10];W[ch]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: oh interesting
CBlue [?\]: b10 seems to work too
yoyoma [1d\]: the sort of move computers find  :)]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[bk]BL[40]OB[10];W[gg]
C[CBlue [?\]: will mogo fall into a trap now?
yoyoma [1d\]: take off?  or F14?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[ff]BL[40]OB[10];W[gi]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: the game became very exciting!  :)
NeverAtari [3k?\]: this move makes my head explode]
WL[40]OW[10];B[fj]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: If W is ordinary human, no chance to live :)]
BL[40]OB[10];W[fh]
C[ketchup [4k\]: i think the ttime settings actually hurt white \
more than black :P
Heretix [9k\]: definitely]
WL[40]OW[10];B[gj]BL[40]OB[10];W[hi]
C[ketchup [4k\]: usually it'd be the other way around, but the way \
this mogo plays... wow..]
WL[40]OW[10];B[hj]BL[40]OB[10];W[ji]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: in L and D mogo plays superb]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[ki]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: just at making territory it lacks a little bit
mmueller [4d?\]: one question is whether b13 can be an eye
CBlue [?\]: J12?]
BL[40]OB[10];W[jh]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: oh maybe wB13 doesn't even make eye in gote?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[hg]
C[CBlue [?\]: oO
yoyoma [1d\]: seems no?
mysticcage [7k\]: is this bot suppose to be strong?
mmueller [4d?\]: Not clear. B13 A12 etc, then C14
Chilltime [5k\]: well w need 2 eyes]
BL[40]OB[10];W[kh]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: h12
mmueller [4d?\]: H12 captures big part]
WL[40]OW[10];B[ii]
C[ketchup [4k\]: but white happy to sacrifice i think
yank [?\]: usually, this time setting favors human players. MoGo \
needs time to think.]
BL[40]OB[10];W[ih]
C[Heretix [9k\]: right, humans have intuition, computers don't]
WL[40]OW[10];B[hh]
C[shinigami [3d\]: think prob not the right word
mysticcage [7k\]: how strong is this bot?
Paulie [5k\]: w is cut?
shinigami [3d\]: mogo needs time to process]
BL[40]OB[10];W[ij]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: mogo is 1d ^^
mysticcage [7k\]: ok
mysticcage [7k\]: who is nutgo?
Chilltime [5k\]: 9p
shinigami [3d\]: taiwan 9p
maszrum [-\]: mogo is stronger than 1d KGS
CBlue [?\]: actually this seems pretty ok for w?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[gh]BL[40]OB[10];W[ii]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: well the dango isn't alive either  :)]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[ik]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: B still in control]
BL[40]OB[10];W[jk]
C[Paulie [5k\]: this is great for b
yoyoma [1d\]: will it L10 to try to kill?
CBlue [?\]: w's gonna take over the center
Heretix [9k\]: I wonder if Mogo thinks during the opponent's time, \
hehe
mmueller [4d?\]: J8 only
ketchup [4k\]: white is taiwan 9p Zhou Junxun]
WL[40]OW[10];B[jl]BL[40]OB[10];W[kj]
C[yank [?\]: But w can take a small breath. : )
ketchup [4k\]: time for q7 probe0rz
mmueller [4d?\]: yes of course it uses opponent's time
mysticcage [7k\]: how come a 9d and a bot is so closely matched
maszrum [-\]: handicap
Oloril [2k\]: 7H
Chilltime [5k\]: because its 7 handi]
WL[40]OW[10];B[kk]
C[mysticcage [7k\]: o]
BL[40]OB[10];W[ke]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: nice
ketchup [4k\]: here's their website i think http://go.nutn.edu.tw/2009/English/schedule_eng.htm]
WL[40]OW[10];B[lj]BL[40]OB[10];W[li]
C[mysticcage [7k\]: thx
mmueller [4d?\]: J16 is big for W]
WL[40]OW[10];B[mj]
C[yank [?\]: L15 is strong.
ketchup [4k\]: rather have probe aroudn q7 :P]
BL[40]OB[10];W[id]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: give up 3 stones]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[he]BL[40]OB[10];W[je]
C[saru411 [4k\]: still cut
mmueller [4d?\]: hmm]
WL[40]OW[10];B[le]BL[40]OB[10];W[jf]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: B still ok
yank [?\]: L15 shows what a pro is capable of.
yoyoma [1d\]: haha let's not overstate L15  :)
CBlue [?\]: so w won]
WL[40]OW[10];B[kd]BL[40]OB[10];W[mi]
C[Heretix [9k\]: amazing how incredibly quickly white plays]
WL[40]OW[10];B[mb]BL[40]OB[10];W[nj]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: painful
mmueller [4d?\]: but Mogo feels no pain :)
yoyoma [1d\]: uhoh  :(
Chilltime [5k\]: n18 lives?
Mogo [-\]: GTP Engine for Mogo (black): MoGo version 3.0.0: I'll \
resign if you win and playing until you pass if I win. If you \
passed and I did not, it often means that the status of some \
stones are not clear enough for me (I want to be sure we will \
agree on dead stones). Clarify them. Maybe I am losing, but have \
not enough time to be sure I should resign. In this case play \
until the end :'( (very rare cases)
mmueller [4d?\]: N18 was a bit too solid maybe
CBlue [?\]: yes
mmueller [4d?\]: O10 soo big
CBlue [?\]: lives
Heretix [9k\]: uh, did mogo just reboot or something?
yank [?\]: That b group is safe.
Heretix [9k\]: why did it just suddenly spew out that message]
WL[40]OW[10];B[jj]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: it probably just calculated the moku..]
BL[40]OB[9];W[md]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: THEY ARE EVEM
uoft123123 [13k?\]: lol jk..
yoyoma [1d\]: oh boy let's see if mogo can do ko]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[ld]BL[40]OB[9];W[jk]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: :O....
uoft123123 [13k?\]: looks like it can
yoyoma [1d\]: answering threats isn't hard
Shymon [10k\]: is white dead on left side yes?
yoyoma [1d\]: making threats is the harder part
CBlue [?\]: yes
uoft123123 [13k?\]: ye]
WL[40]OW[10];B[fp]BL[40]OB[9];W[gp]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: :o
uoft123123 [13k?\]: good one
uoft123123 [13k?\]: c9 ?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[jj]BL[40]OB[9];W[ck]
C[yank [?\]: Very interesting game.
mmueller [4d?\]: no threat?
yoyoma [1d\]: white lost some aji at H9 if black answer E9 now
uoft123123 [13k?\]: it's a big threat]
WL[40]OW[10];B[cl]BL[40]OB[9];W[jk]
C[Shymon [10k\]: what was it threatening?
mmueller [4d?\]: what was W's threat???
Chilltime [5k\]: ughs
uoft123123 [13k?\]: the side
Chilltime [5k\]: now w go e9
Shymon [10k\]: how?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[go]BL[40]OB[9];W[ep]
C[saru411 [4k\]: the threat was life
uoft123123 [13k?\]: oh ya..
uoft123123 [13k?\]: D10
uoft123123 [13k?\]: and 9..]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[jj]BL[40]OB[9];W[pq]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: G5 terrible, now B loses ground]
WL[40]OW[10];B[fo]BL[40]OB[9];W[eo]
C[yank [?\]: I think E3 is better than G5.
mmueller [4d?\]: yes
Chilltime [5k\]: now mogo will teacht w a lesson and kill down \
left
uoft123123 [13k?\]: how?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[eq]BL[40]OB[9];W[dq]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: with computer magic
yoyoma [1d\]: well got ponnuki
uoft123123 [13k?\]: white'll look ugly if he kills it..]
WL[40]OW[10];B[er]BL[40]OB[9];W[fr]
C[aware [2k\]: 40sec/move seems hard for mogo]
WL[40]OW[10];B[dr]BL[40]OB[9];W[cq]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: I can't decide if adding E2 was good or not
Chilltime [5k\]: c2?
uoft123123 [13k?\]: looks difficult...
yoyoma [1d\]: maybe is?
yoyoma [1d\]: oh C2 also...]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[cr]BL[40]OB[9];W[bq]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: h4?
yoyoma [1d\]: what if H3?
Chilltime [5k\]: humm
yoyoma [1d\]: black 1 lib ahead]
WL[40]OW[10];B[ni]
C[saru411 [4k\]: connect of course
Chilltime [5k\]: looks like w got spanked]
BL[40]OB[9];W[jk]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: ugh tenuki is hard ^^
yoyoma [1d\]: bH3, wG3 connect, bH4 kills no?
Chilltime [5k\]: sure it does]
WL[40]OW[10];B[qq]
C[saru411 [4k\]: how when h5 = atari
yoyoma [1d\]: atari doesn't save white in that]
BL[40]OB[9];W[lk]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: looks like it can tho
Chilltime [5k\]: h3 h5 g6 g3 h4]
WL[40]OW[10];B[jj]BL[40]OB[9];W[mk]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: owie.. the pain..
uoft123123 [13k?\]: lol]
WL[40]OW[10];B[gn]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: hm
Chilltime [5k\]: b doesnt want to attack w 
yoyoma [1d\]: yeah I'm surprised
Chilltime [5k\]: hm
Chilltime [5k\]: well]
BL[40]OB[9];W[bm]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: oh haha
Chilltime [5k\]: whis move attacked the whole group instead
uoft123123 [13k?\]: black doesn't have much tho
yoyoma [1d\]: black threatened B6  :)]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[nb]BL[40]OB[9];W[oc]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: bah but now still nothing against G4 stones
Chilltime [5k\]: now h3?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[oq]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: there are some variations like  bH3, wH2, and white \
makes eye at G2....
saru411 [4k\]: h3 h4 g3 j3 g2 h2 f1 k4 at move 131 , yomama
yoyoma [1d\]: so far I didn't see one that work for white
Chilltime [5k\]: as long as mogo got sente hes got a chance]
BL[40]OB[9];W[np]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: saru come to my clone
yoyoma [1d\]: variation too long  :)]
WL[40]OW[10];B[bo]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: lol]
BL[40]OB[9];W[bn]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: b2? :P
yank [?\]: MoGo plays better with Chou 9p than it did months ago.]
WL[40]OW[10];B[br]BL[40]OB[9];W[cp]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: nasty little mogo
quasimoyo [2d\]: h9 seems to work]
WL[40]OW[10];B[aq]BL[40]OB[9];W[ap]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: mogo wants to live in gote?]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[co]BL[40]OB[9];W[ar]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: ups]
WL[40]OW[10];B[ao]BL[40]OB[9];W[do]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: g3 now?
Chilltime [5k\]: dead shape xD
Paulie [5k\]: c8 first...
Chilltime [5k\]: h3 i suppose]
WL[40]OW[10];B[hr]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: :O]
BL[40]OB[9];W[hq]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: ko again?
yoyoma [1d\]: black G2 and J3?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[iq]BL[40]OB[9];W[ip]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: G2 connects under]
WL[40]OW[10];B[gr]BL[40]OB[9];W[hk]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: :O
uoft123123 [13k?\]: did wite do that as a part of his plan
uoft123123 [13k?\]: ..]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[gk]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: scary to think that q_Q]
BL[40]OB[9];W[hl]
C[MonkehKid [-\]: wow w is so strong
yoyoma [1d\]: how is the score now?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[ci]BL[40]OB[9];W[gq]
C[Shymon [10k\]: 9ps usually are....
uoft123123 [13k?\]: not to mention 7Handicap
uoft123123 [13k?\]: ..
yoyoma [1d\]: hm there is a chance that J3 dies?]
WL[40]OW[10];B[fs]BL[40]OB[9];W[hp]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: B still doing well
Chilltime [5k\]: no i dont think so yoyoma
yoyoma [1d\]: already gote eye at D1...
Paulie [5k\]: a good chance Id say...]
WL[40]OW[10];B[jq]BL[40]OB[9];W[jp]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: depedns how black wants to play
yoyoma [1d\]: black still lead eh?
uoft123123 [13k?\]: the 2 on O is pretty scary looking]
WL[40]OW[10];B[kp]BL[40]OB[9];W[kq]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: haha computer counter attack of course
mmueller [4d?\]: L5
Chilltime [5k\]: l2
uoft123123 [13k?\]: l5 looks better..
yoyoma [1d\]: bravo!
Paulie [5k\]: w gunna bring the pain here...]
WL[40]OW[10]
;B[jo]
C[Chilltime [5k\]: l5 looks crappy]
BL[40]OB[9];W[ko]
C[yoyoma [1d\]: haha k5 computer style instead of L5  :)
Shymon [10k\]: k5 looks like a computer move
uoft123123 [13k?\]: k5 looks crappy.. but im not reading that \
far
Chilltime [5k\]: k5 looks like iam gonna kill you ^^]
WL[40]OW[10];B[lp]BL[40]OB[9];W[io]
C[Paulie [5k\]: j6! :)]
WL[40]OW[10];B[jn]BL[40]OB[9];W[in]
C[mmueller [4d?\]: W misread?
Chilltime [5k\]: j7?
myongstu [-\]: i think w just underestimates b
uoft123123 [13k?\]: wait for it...
uoft123123 [13k?\]: lol
Chilltime [5k\]: what happens if w g1?
quasimoyo [2d\]: nothing]
WL[40]OW[10];B[im]
C[uoft123123 [13k?\]: nothign
uoft123123 [13k?\]: yah
uoft123123 [13k?\]: haha
Chilltime [5k\]: okay xD
Chilltime [5k\]: then b+ resign
yoyoma [1d\]: bravo mogo!
yank [?\]: I was wrong. It looks MoGo is winning.
aware [2k\]: whou
Chilltime [5k\]: yay
uoft123123 [13k?\]: :O
shinigami [3d\]: wow
Paulie [5k\]: wow!
Heretix [9k\]: wow
yank [?\]: Luckily I didn't bet my money. : )
Chilltime [5k\]: mogo beats 9 with 7 handi
uoft123123 [13k?\]: :O
Paulie [5k\]: this is surely a first?
Heretix [9k\]: congrats Mogo and team
Chilltime [5k\]: next time its 6 handi
Shymon [10k\]: so what level do you guys put mogo on now?
Chilltime [5k\]: 2d or 3d
Chilltime [5k\]: ;-)
Chilltime [5k\]: hard to say 
yank [?\]: At least 2 d in Taiwan.
uoft123123 [13k?\]: wuts the highest ranked bot at
Chilltime [5k\]: its strong with handi
yoyoma [1d\]: who has a couple million dollars to sponsor hyugens \
cluster to play on kgs to get rating?  :D
Chilltime [5k\]: but in an even game?
maszrum [-\]: 9p would crush 2d on 7 handi
Heretix [9k\]: maybe ask nutngo how strong he thinks Mogo is?
Shymon [10k\]: pretty sure that is just a reporting account
MonkehKid [-\]: mogo is atleast 5d.
mmueller [4d?\]: Congratulations Mogo team!
shinigami [3d\]: lol
shinigami [3d\]: no where near 5d
maszrum [-\]: yes, 5d seems right
MonkehKid [-\]: what shinigami? you mean weaker or stronger
shinigami [3d\]: weaker
uoft123123 [13k?\]: why don't we get oe of those japanese geezers \
to estimate him
uoft123123 [13k?\]: :O
Heretix [9k\]: so uh, will the next few games be at lesser handicap \
then?
MonkehKid [-\]: mogo beat tartrate...
quasimoyo [2d\]: who come a 9p misread k5?
MonkehKid [-\]: and this 9p ;)
NeverAtari [3k?\]: who to trust, pro or shinigami?
Paulie [5k\]: even games are probably alot harder for mogo.  In \
the handicap games, there's more fighting and this is to its \
advantage I think...
shinigami [3d\]: who is pro that said he was 5d?
uoft123123 [13k?\]: yo.. wuts the theory behind the bot?
MonkehKid [-\]: i am shinigami ;)
uoft123123 [13k?\]: rules or data base?
Chilltime [5k\]: i think this mogo is near 2 or 3d
Paulie [5k\]: monte carlo search
Oloril [2k\]: monte carlo
Chilltime [5k\]: but only in handi games
uoft123123 [13k?\]: i see..
shinigami [3d\]: lol you're not a pro
MonkehKid [-\]: yeah, im not. im stronger than 1.
Oloril [2k\]: it simulates games with semi random moves to find \
the one with the best win %
uoft123123 [13k?\]: yah
Paulie [5k\]: (and hence the "good at fighting")
uoft123123 [13k?\]: i know..
Heretix [9k\]: hmm, later in the schedule, Mogo plays Zhou Jun \
Xun again
maszrum [-\]: it's a brute force search actually
uoft123123 [13k?\]: well
Heretix [9k\]: 19x19, 6 handicaps this time?
uoft123123 [13k?\]: monte carlo was a weapons development program
Paulie [5k\]: no, its monte carlo
Oloril [2k\]: no maszrum, brute force would be nearly impossible \
with current technology
uoft123123 [13k?\]: but disbanded when gametheory came into ffavor
inte [?\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?UCT
shinigami [3d\]: a 5d with proper time settings should be able \
to beat a 9p with 5 handicap
maszrum [-\]: UCT is very similar to minimax algorithm
shinigami [3d\]: until mogo gets to that level, won't be 5d
inte [?\]: and, of course, http://senseis.xmp.net/?MoGo
maszrum [-\]: which is brute force search]
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