(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[7]KM[0.50]TM[2700]
PW[usgomvm]PB[ManyFaces1]DT[2009-08-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[dd][pd][dj][jj][pj][dp][pp]C[ManyFaces1 [-\]: GTP Engine for ManyFaces1 (black): Many Faces of Go version 12 (2008 world champion), playing at level 2 kyu. Uses Many Faces' knowledge combined with Monte Carlo evaluation. Free evaluation download at www.smart-games.com.
ibd [9k?\]: gl hf
]
;W[nq]WL[2693.417]
;B[pn]BL[2687.268]C[Aoiro [8k\]: enjoy
]
;W[iq]WL[2688.501]
;B[cm]BL[2659.39]
;W[pl]WL[2682.299]
;B[om]BL[2642.188]
;W[qj]WL[2672.038]
;B[qi]BL[2622.411]
;W[pi]WL[2670.015]
;B[qk]BL[2600.69]
;W[rj]WL[2667.784]
;B[pk]BL[2579.096]
;W[qh]WL[2665.29]
;B[rk]BL[2557.678]
;W[ri]WL[2663.333]
;B[gq]BL[2517.987]
;W[lp]WL[2655.936]C[goIngo [-\]: good evening
mcw85 [7k\]: Is this only the test?
derPlumps [3d\]: hi
]
;B[jd]BL[2476.8]
;W[nc]WL[2653.115]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Not the actual game.
ibd [9k?\]: I think it is the actual game
goIngo [-\]: so, is it for adjustment of handicap?
fotland [?\]: dont know for sure, but looks like actual game
mcw85 [7k\]: I think.
fotland [?\]: since full time limit
]
;B[ne]BL[2436.148]
;W[oe]WL[2649.943]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Well, they can just quit whenever.
]
;B[od]BL[2415.84]
;W[nd]WL[2647.491]C[derPlumps [3d\]: the professional decides on handicaps?
goIngo [-\]: have there been adjustment games bfore?
stalkor [3k\]: fotland, does this bot take time in consideration?
]
;B[of]BL[2395.785]
;W[pe]WL[2644.319]C[fotland [?\]: yes, bot knows time limit.  spends more time on opening
]
;B[qe]BL[2375.812]
;W[pf]WL[2642.521]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: does it know ladders?
mcw85 [7k\]: Is this bot stronger than mogo?
derPlumps [3d\]: lol good question
ibd [9k?\]: maybe
Albast [9k\]: well, that bot still newbee on ladders
]
;B[me]BL[2352.343]C[terrymac [7k\]: Dave, this is Terry
fotland [?\]: it beat mogo at world championship last year
terrymac [7k\]: Mr. Kim asked for 50 move "test game"
]
;W[qf]WL[2627.35]C[terrymac [7k\]: will restart after
fotland [?\]: this version is about 1 stone stronger
]
;B[ob]BL[2315.895]
;W[nb]WL[2623.302]C[starrk [10k?\]: it must matter what sort of computer it is running on?
terrymac [7k\]: pvt chat, David?
Hannoskaj [?\]: 1 stone progress since the Championship? Impressive.
boondoggle [8k\]: how much cpu power is behind it?
goIngo [-\]: hi terry, are you operating?
stalkor [3k\]: 30 cores
derPlumps [3d\]: 32 cores
ibd [9k?\]: a ton
]
;B[qc]BL[2287.963]C[boondoggle [8k\]: nice
]
;W[oc]WL[2617.986]C[stalkor [3k\]: yeah 32:)
Vade [2k\]: not much really
terrymac [7k\]: I am just the organizer. David wrote the program. 
]
;B[kc]BL[2254.356]C[fotland [?\]: hi terry.  don;t know how to start a private chatr
goIngo [-\]: yes, i know. But, are you in Fairfox?
Vade [2k\]: suppose additional cores won't produce such a huge advantage
terrymac [7k\]: am in Fairfax
goIngo [-\]: yes, I meant that.
Albast [9k\]: m16 ?
joxn [-\]: fotland: left-click on terrymac, "talk to"
]
;W[pb]WL[2578.514]C[derPlumps [3d\]: right-click.
boondoggle [8k\]: vade: i'm not so sure, i think a game tree search scales pretty well
fotland [?\]: did talk to... nothing happens
derPlumps [3d\]: change window
goIngo [-\]: he has to open his chat window
fotland [?\]: this version 64 cores is weaker
stalkor [3k\]: it comes up in a tab
]
;B[gd]BL[2218.057]
;W[qq]WL[2574.325]C[Vade [2k\]: still comes down to monte carlo
]
;B[pq]BL[2197.224]
;W[pr]WL[2571.974]C[MacNala [12k\]: right click terrymac and click talk to
]
;B[or]BL[2178.859]
;W[qr]WL[2569.603]C[derPlumps [3d\]: kgs for newbies :-)
lonsan [1k\]: and ai programmers
boondoggle [8k\]: i wonder if gpu acceleration would do anything for this problem (doubt it though)
]
;B[qp]BL[2160.669]
;W[oq]WL[2567.337]C[goIngo [-\]: comments on the position?
derPlumps [3d\]: boondoggle, it could make nice animations for stones when being captured
goIngo [-\]: from the experts?
lonsan [1k\]: i think b is better, golngo
]
;B[qb]BL[2125.989]C[ibd [9k?\]: r4 admits mistake?
derPlumps [3d\]: haha
]
;W[re]WL[2557.505]C[derPlumps [3d\]: black had advantage from the beginning. and gave white a lot until here
]
;B[pc]BL[2108.363]C[boondoggle [8k\]: i meant using something like OpenCL or CUDA
]
;W[oa]WL[2555.307]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: lonsan, but a lot les than at the start
Uberdude [5d?\]: w already gained a lot
lonsan [1k\]: yes, this is true
lonsan [1k\]: but that wouldn't be funny :)
ibd [9k?\]: m18?
Hanezeki [2k\]: computers usually lack in the "big picture" department
]
;B[dg]BL[2074.247]C[Vade [2k\]: can't really say anything until more moves have been played
Uberdude [5d?\]: c17
]
;W[cc]WL[2547.679]C[lonsan [1k\]: only choice
derPlumps [3d\]: not montecarlo programs, hanezeki, the suck at local fighting
Vade [2k\]: bots are so inconsistent unless it's local
Albast [9k\]: black seems to be leading a bit
magners [2k\]: fotland, is arimaa gaining any popularity?
]
;B[rd]BL[2049.968]C[ibd [9k?\]: "look mom I can tenuki"
]
;W[cd]WL[2531.67]C[goIngo [-\]: 50 !
]
;B[rf]BL[2033.003]
;W[qd]WL[2529.162]C[lonsan [1k\]: now let's see how it can fight ko
ibd [9k?\]: c15
]
;B[se]BL[2016.034]
;W[qe]WL[2526.755]C[lonsan [1k\]: not at all evidently
ibd [9k?\]: o`o
stalkor [3k\]: what ko?
derPlumps [3d\]: most programs can't fight ko :-))
lonsan [1k\]: :)
]
;B[rb]BL[1999.266]
;W[sc]WL[2525.123]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: this seems a lot weakre than mogo
]
;B[sd]BL[1982.654]C[ibd [9k?\]: you can tell from 50 moves? nice
]
;W[sb]WL[2518.887]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: yes, mogo was pwning the pro with an awesome tesuji in the lower right aobut now
Albast [9k\]: that`s 3 corners already for white
]
;B[dc]BL[1966.123]
;W[ld]WL[2512.146]C[fotland [?\]: terry, are you there?  I found your chat window
]
;B[ke]BL[1949.771]C[stalkor [3k\]: lol expert at making go programs but chatting seems harder^^
Aoiro [8k\]: uh, I thought they were real chatting people here
Fiktik [6k\]: stopped?
fotland [?\]: yes, this was just a test game
ibd [9k?\]: the pro crashed
ibd [9k?\]: they're rebooting him now
fotland [?\]: the real game will start soon
gghideki [2k\]: MoGo uses over 300 cores against pro
fotland [?\]: yes.  Mogo scales better to big clusters
fotland [?\]: I have some bug, won;t scale to more than 32 right now
tmc [-\]: New game up
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